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The Book Party

A Book Friend Stopped By | 09/16/2008 3:30 pm

Jane Green: 'Are We Raising a Bunch of Narcissists?'

By Jane Green
© Sigrid Estrada

Editor’s Note: One of the founding writers behind the genre known as "chick lit," Jane Green now writes novels that reflect the lives of real women today, with all the trials and tribulations that come with real life: from in-laws, motherhood, midlife crises and loss, all of which are told with Green’s trademark warmth, wit and wisdom. Winner of a Cosmopolitan Fun Fearless Fiction award, her tenth novel, The Beach House, is currently on the New York Times bestseller list. A native Londoner, Green now lives in Connecticut with her partner and four children. Visit her website at JaneGreen.com.

I recently read an article about the damage we have done in focusing on giving our children ridiculous levels of self-esteem, the fact that we are raising — and have raised — a generation of narcissists who believe everything they do is wonderful.

The article, called Are We Feeling Too Good About Ourselves for Our Own Good, states the following: “In the 1950s, just 12 percent of teens age 14 to 16 agreed with the statement ‘I am an important person.’ Yet by the late 1980s, an incredible seven times that — 80 percent — of teens said they agreed with it.”

This is not a good thing, just in case you were wondering. Important without having achieved anything? Living at home, no job yet? Why on earth should they see themselves as important?

The author, Maura R. O’ Connor, goes on to say that there is no statistical proof that greater self-esteem causes greater happiness. If anything, the reverse is true.

All of which resonates with me.

It resonates with me when I am waiting for a car to reverse out of a parking spot behind Main Street, and the car behind me hoots mercilessly, and when I smile and shrug, indicating this car is about to go, the teenager behind the wheel gives me the finger and tells me to "f*** you."

It resonates with me when I am ice-skating with the kids, and when the Zamboni comes on and everyone has to get off the ice, there is a group of seven-year-olds who refuse to move from the entrance. The guys at Longshore tell them repeatedly, in nice terms, to move. When I go over and say firmly, "Kids, get out of the way now," the seven-year-old in the front looks at me, bold-faced, and rolls his eyes.

It resonates with me when I hear about recent graduates starting their first jobs, and refusing to make coffee, or collect mail, or do anything they deem as menial because they think they are better than that.

It resonates with me, ultimately, because we are living in the age of entitlement, and I wish things were different; I wish we had a good healthy dose of humility to bring us back down to earth.

When I first moved to America, with a 13-month-old, I was somewhat surprised at the other mothers at the playground. When my son came down the slide, it wasn’t necessary to tell him what a marvelous thing he had just done. When the other children did, however, the mothers stood around applauding, "Great job! Good job!"

Their kids would stand up. "Great job!" And then sit down again. "Great job!" It got to the point where I was waiting for them to applaud their children’s breathing. "Great job breathing! Yay for Scotty!"

I was baffled. Growing up in England in the ’70s, I was raised with extraordinarily healthy levels of low self-esteem. (Mum – do NOT take this personally …) Everyone was. We all grew up being taught to respect adults, to listen to them, that we weren’t terribly important, unless of course we did something terribly important, in which case we were praised.

I do not believe for a second I would be a bestselling author today had I not been raised the way I was. It taught me to prove myself. I didn’t think I was important, so it taught me to strive for something, to achieve, to make something of myself.

Which is not to say I think all kids should be raised and told they are not important, but rather that we should not be frightened to say when it is not good enough, and not be frightened to withhold the rewards if they haven’t earned them.

Upstairs, in my kids’ bedrooms, are roughly 30 sports trophies. I should be proud. I wish I could be proud, but these trophies are handed out to the children for taking part. Not for winning.

Since when did competition become unhealthy? The world is not an easy place, and it is a competitive place. You do not get far in life by sitting around and waiting for other people to applaud you for doing, well, nothing much.

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Belinda Joy
Bravo…well said. I’m 48 years old and can honestly say I was “raised” by my father. My mother didn’t simply give birth to me and my siblings; we were “raised” to be the adults we are today. We knew our parents as mother and father, superiors in our household and our guardians. This is not the case today. Today most parents want to be their kids friends first and parents second. There are no long talks about morality, social values and expectations. No, it’s much easier to throw money at our youth to placate them. Buy them an Xbox, flat screen TV, IPod, designer shoes and clothes so they fit in. Kids know they need only whine or make a fit and mom and dad will shut them up with whatever it is their hearts desire. Gone are the days of children having respect and reverence for their parents. How sad it is to see how shallow our next generation is going to be. The only saving grace is that I hope the good kids that do have respect for themselves and their elders will out number what I refer to as the slackers.
By Belinda Joy on 09/16/2008 3:04 pm
Marjorie C.
Jane Green, Very interesting article. I, too, wonder how it will all shake out, and am astonished sometimes at how my granddaughters are allowed to command the scene. To me, their parents give themselves a lot of unnecessary work by not establishing themselves as the final authority. I didn’t teach my kids to be such wimps, but there you have it, they figure they are handling things in a more enlightened way. And they certainly don’t want any advice from Grandma. Fact is, elders have agonized for centuries about the rudeness and lazyness of the next generation, but somehow humans have always been able to produce yet another generation. As one of earth’s creatures, we survive.
By Marjorie C. on 09/16/2008 3:07 pm
Eliza Dodd
As I told you girls in previous posts I am clairvoyant .One year before any “school” shooting ..My step-son brought home a survey from school .They said we didn’t even have to sign it .They just wanted to know what we thought about the future of the small town school where I lived .I answered >>METAL DETECTORES !And wella ! Some kid shoots a gun and kills other kids ! Since they took away “CORPORAL PUNISHMENT” kids tell the Teacher what to do @@@#!~~!!And they teach the kids to tell on parents when they are hit ! And that is CHILD ABUSE ! And the Bully’s go unchecked .I seen this with my own 2 eyes .They are over looked …And nothing is done .I seen this and no one can say “teachers & office people” don’t see the same bulloney that I seen .I had to bribe my step-son to do good in school and not get into trouble ..What did I have to do ? Buy him stuff !! Anfd the $100 Michael Jordon Gym Shoes ! And there I was wearing $3. Dollar General shoes ! I get mad at myself looking back at those years .I get mad at the LIBERATED people who came up with taking punishment away from the teachers & parents ! When I went to school I made straight A’s in conduct because I had a FEAR inside of me ..I would get it from the teacher and or my dad when I got home .Now days these kids have no fear but the teacher do !
By Eliza Dodd on 09/16/2008 3:37 pm
Emcye Edwards
Yeah, how will it all shake out? I have been writing about this and thinking about it as it relates to the work force - now comprised of 4-5 different generations. They’re all working together for the first time in our history - as equals. In fact, the millenials, Y’s and X’s have the think-power that will drive the economy. They don’t know anything but deference - and can’t make sense of the choices their parents have made. I’m a T-ball Trophy parent, one of the generation of parents who didn’t foresee what can happen if self-esteem is bestowed from without, not earned from within. Combine this with the Age Wave - all the boomers getting old - and it will be curious to see how well-regarded ‘elders’ are, when it comes to voting on issues to protect them. (Buh-bye.) Here, rock and roll takes on a whole new meaning.
By Emcye Edwards on 09/16/2008 3:43 pm
thatsoutherngirl k
It really bugs when it comes to team sports. Show up, hey you’re on the team. Not like when I was growing up and you had to actually try out to be even considered.
By thatsoutherngirl k on 09/16/2008 3:52 pm
E .
Not only show up and you’re on the team but (for a nominal fee) we’ll give you whichever trophy you order just for signing up and being you too! I find that too often hard work, skill and talent is less appreciated today and is instead held up as something to be mocked and resented. In fact we punish the hard workers and “A” players by expecting them to consistently outperform and do a greater share of the work (for the same pay) than those that feel that they are equal just because they show up and punch the time clock. There are so many dimensions of narcissism in the USA and it is very disturbing. While there is likely a greater percentage of gen Y narcissists we all know that there are plenty of Boomer and X’r narcissists to go around. The greatest example of the celebration and cultivation of a Boomer narcissist culture is the rise to power of George W. Bush. A culture that breeds and rewards narcissism is nothing new in The USA - it is just finally disabling us. Warped nationalism, warped ethnocentrism, warped individualism - it is insanity. It is high time for the USA to get over the multi-layered identity crisis and get real before we implode.
By E . on 09/17/2008 9:35 am
Marjorie C.
Emcye: …all the boomers getting old - and it will be curious to see how well-regarded ‘elders’ are, when it comes to voting on issues to protect them. (Buh-bye.) I enjoyed your take on future generations as they commence to unfold. Yes, the boomers are getting old, but as this very large group move into elderly status, they will become an important voting bloc for their own protection. And they do control a large chunk of the wealth. Remember boomers are the beginning of the ‘ME’ generation. They don’t and won’t roll over too easily.
By Marjorie C. on 09/16/2008 4:03 pm
James the Game
And the post-50 set also will wield increasing economic power, Marj, which will be reflected in more and more advertisements directed to the Baby Boom generation.
By James the Game on 09/16/2008 9:31 pm
Frannie Em
Marjorie Good point.
By Frannie Em on 09/17/2008 12:58 am
Chips AHoey
hey thanks for writing this piece - I feel like I am the only parent in my kids’ schools (high school and grammar) that gives their kids chores (emptying the dishwasher, horrors - my 15 yo tries to put on the Cinderella act) , grounds them when they mess up - and I don’t put my kid on a pedestal they can’t possibly live up to - if there’s trouble afoot, I know they may be a part of it and I hold them accountable and not just their friends - I tell them they need to work hard at school to do well in life - and I let them fail, which I think is the biggie, and the hardest thing to do - kids in college even have helicopter parents who go to the professor when they think the grade is wrong - it’s crazy I could go on and on, yipes my 84 yo Mom said it best that we over parent in our generation - she said she and her friends hung out, had coffee, cleaned the house and let us play and work out our own issues and as soon as we hit 16, we had to get a job - I did make my 15 yo work this past summer and her friends all had trips to writing retreats, overseas trips and the like so I was made to feel like the bad parent but she needs to know how many hours you work to buy a new pair of jeans, right?
By Chips AHoey on 09/16/2008 4:12 pm
Chris Broersma
As an ex-teacher and parent I would say yes - and no. Simply put there were two extremes in my neighborhood and it turned out confident young people and shattered ones. We have to be careful when we say that we need to not praise so much. I had a Jewish friend who was praised for everything, and turned out super, while some were constantly told how dumb they were, or worse ignored and each of the later turned out in secure totally. It’s almost like we need to be taught how to be complimentary honestly so we can pass it on to the next generations since neither the “over praising”, nor the “ignoring or abusive types” really create the proper kind of self worth.
By Chris Broersma on 09/16/2008 4:14 pm
Jayne L.
Wow was this published at the right (or wrong?) time for me! I just had an argument with my 16 year old son because he doesn’t understand why he should get a job since he’s decided not to play football this year. He feels that going to school (he has NOT been a great student thus far) should be enough. His basic argument? His friends don’t have to work… I’m a single mom who has always worked two jobs to support us. His father, while he doesn’t help us much, has always worked hard as well. I just don’t understand where I went wrong. Although I do remember very well, all the other parents allowing things I would not, giving gifts and entitlements to kids that I don’t believe deserved it. It’s so tough to be the “hold out” parent, harder to help your child to understand the reasons behind it. Anyway, thanks for this; it has given me strength to go home and deal with our latest battle!
By Jayne L. on 09/16/2008 4:18 pm
Lorraine Bates
Thank you! My son groaned that we told him he had to have a job this year because he decided to leave the marching band and jazz band at school. We also told him he has to pay for half his car insurance, but ALL of it if he doesn’t have at least a 3.0 GPA. We’ve never agreed with the trophies and certificates for just showing up. In fact, when he got a “perfect attendance” certificate at school several years ago - a year he decided he didn’t need to do homework, and got straight C’s - we doctored it so it was a certificate for holding down a chair from flying into space award. He didn’t think it was very funny, but he got the point.
By Lorraine Bates on 09/17/2008 8:25 am
Andy C
It resonates with me” having dinner with my husband in a restaurant and somebody’s child comes over to us…again and again until I say “go away” quite sternly and non-smiling thus causing this child to run crying to his parents who then give me dirty looks for the rest of my ruined dinner. And yes, if I hear “good job” one more time, I believe I will gag and retch. It’s only a good job if it really is a good job; above average. How can they ever feel a sense of achievement at having conquered something they’ve tried for?
By Andy C on 09/16/2008 5:04 pm
James the Game
I can relate to that one, Andrea. Having a “quiet dinner” in a public restaurant nowadays is an oxymoron. Or the booming rap bass emanating from cars that shakes my house a half-block away from the passing traffic, or prevents me from talking to someone in my car. Much of the blame can be put on the indulging (or absentee) parents.
By James the Game on 09/16/2008 9:26 pm