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The Book Party

A Book Friend Stopped By | 09/16/2008 3:30 pm

Jane Green: 'Are We Raising a Bunch of Narcissists?'

By Jane Green
© Sigrid Estrada

Editor’s Note: One of the founding writers behind the genre known as "chick lit," Jane Green now writes novels that reflect the lives of real women today, with all the trials and tribulations that come with real life: from in-laws, motherhood, midlife crises and loss, all of which are told with Green’s trademark warmth, wit and wisdom. Winner of a Cosmopolitan Fun Fearless Fiction award, her tenth novel, The Beach House, is currently on the New York Times bestseller list. A native Londoner, Green now lives in Connecticut with her partner and four children. Visit her website at JaneGreen.com.

I recently read an article about the damage we have done in focusing on giving our children ridiculous levels of self-esteem, the fact that we are raising — and have raised — a generation of narcissists who believe everything they do is wonderful.

The article, called Are We Feeling Too Good About Ourselves for Our Own Good, states the following: “In the 1950s, just 12 percent of teens age 14 to 16 agreed with the statement ‘I am an important person.’ Yet by the late 1980s, an incredible seven times that — 80 percent — of teens said they agreed with it.”

This is not a good thing, just in case you were wondering. Important without having achieved anything? Living at home, no job yet? Why on earth should they see themselves as important?

The author, Maura R. O’ Connor, goes on to say that there is no statistical proof that greater self-esteem causes greater happiness. If anything, the reverse is true.

All of which resonates with me.

It resonates with me when I am waiting for a car to reverse out of a parking spot behind Main Street, and the car behind me hoots mercilessly, and when I smile and shrug, indicating this car is about to go, the teenager behind the wheel gives me the finger and tells me to "f*** you."

It resonates with me when I am ice-skating with the kids, and when the Zamboni comes on and everyone has to get off the ice, there is a group of seven-year-olds who refuse to move from the entrance. The guys at Longshore tell them repeatedly, in nice terms, to move. When I go over and say firmly, "Kids, get out of the way now," the seven-year-old in the front looks at me, bold-faced, and rolls his eyes.

It resonates with me when I hear about recent graduates starting their first jobs, and refusing to make coffee, or collect mail, or do anything they deem as menial because they think they are better than that.

It resonates with me, ultimately, because we are living in the age of entitlement, and I wish things were different; I wish we had a good healthy dose of humility to bring us back down to earth.

When I first moved to America, with a 13-month-old, I was somewhat surprised at the other mothers at the playground. When my son came down the slide, it wasn’t necessary to tell him what a marvelous thing he had just done. When the other children did, however, the mothers stood around applauding, "Great job! Good job!"

Their kids would stand up. "Great job!" And then sit down again. "Great job!" It got to the point where I was waiting for them to applaud their children’s breathing. "Great job breathing! Yay for Scotty!"

I was baffled. Growing up in England in the ’70s, I was raised with extraordinarily healthy levels of low self-esteem. (Mum – do NOT take this personally …) Everyone was. We all grew up being taught to respect adults, to listen to them, that we weren’t terribly important, unless of course we did something terribly important, in which case we were praised.

I do not believe for a second I would be a bestselling author today had I not been raised the way I was. It taught me to prove myself. I didn’t think I was important, so it taught me to strive for something, to achieve, to make something of myself.

Which is not to say I think all kids should be raised and told they are not important, but rather that we should not be frightened to say when it is not good enough, and not be frightened to withhold the rewards if they haven’t earned them.

Upstairs, in my kids’ bedrooms, are roughly 30 sports trophies. I should be proud. I wish I could be proud, but these trophies are handed out to the children for taking part. Not for winning.

Since when did competition become unhealthy? The world is not an easy place, and it is a competitive place. You do not get far in life by sitting around and waiting for other people to applaud you for doing, well, nothing much.

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Maggi D
I am in the unique position of having to raise my twin great-grandsons (they will be three next month). Because of court cases, caseworkers, and therapists, I have had to be very careful how I handle the boys. I was constantly told that a 2yr old understands the word ‘no’, but cannot control the impulse to do the forbidden thing. I was not allowed to spank or use time out. I was told to use diversion and praise. I got so sick of saying ‘good job’ for everything they did I thought I was going to choke. THANK GOD that the adoption is final and I am now allowed to raise the boys as I see fit. I have a time out chair. If either of them has to sit in the chair three or four times for the same offense they get spanked. Sometimes the time out works and sometimes they need a little nug on their backside to make them understand that I mean business. Their attitude has changed drastically in the last six months and we are actually starting to enjoy each others company. The only thing that was told to me that I do agree with is that I tell the boys that the thing they did is a bad thing. They are never told that they are bad boys. Over a year of dealing with all these PHD’s in child psychology that is the only thing I kept. These boys are going to have enough to deal with growing up without being unruley brats. They are truely loved and my other children have rallied around to make sure the boys know that they are a big part of the family - but they have to mind where ever they go. They are typical two year olds and they drive me crazy (I have become a shrew 50% of the day) but they also make me laugh until I have tears in my eyes and when they hug me my heart feels like it will burst. I just pray that this old broad can guide them towards the easiest way to deal with the harsh realities of life. As the twig is bent, so shall the tree grow.
By Maggi D on 09/17/2008 1:38 am
Jayne L.
These are all great and helpful comments. I just wish I knew where all the lines are. My son’s friends seem unmotivated, lazy, and like they’re entitled. One girl, 17, actually said in front of me that she could “never work full-time”! This while I’m working a full-time job and a part-time job to support my son and myself. Both her and her boyfriend have quit school, and he doesn’t work at all. Yet, his parents paid for driver’s ed, and a new motorcycle for him! My son has been best friends with this kid since they were 3 years old. He wasn’t a bad kid at 3, what am I supposed to do? If I tell my son not to hang out with him, he still will. He’ll just lie to me about it. I can’t force him to stay in the house 24/7. I tell my son that he has to get decent grades in school and if not playing a sport, he must get a job. He tells me he’s applying and no one’s hiring. Now what?? I’m just so afraid that he’s going down the wrong path, and I feel completely helpless about it. I worry about everything, and try to guide him, punish him, encourage him, etc. How did I not know back 17 years ago that things would be this hard?
By Jayne L. on 09/17/2008 9:30 am
Sandbee (FB) 54
While I can’t say much for the immediate future Jayne, I can say I went through so much of that with my son, I was a single mom for many years and even after I re-married he had 2 of us to worry. I used to feel that either he or I wouldn’t make it til his 21st birthday. But, now he is 34 and he travels around the world on business and is getting ready to move to Brazil for 2 years to start offices there for his company. This from the kid who would miss the school bus because he didn’t want to get out of bed in the morning. Hang in there, things get better - it just takes years.
By Sandbee (FB) 54 on 09/17/2008 10:46 pm
Jayne L.
Thank you SO much for that Sandbee! Sometimes it doesn’t seem like there’s any hope, and having someone who went through the same experiences telling you it will be alright, is priceless. I will continue to keep my fingers crossed, and listen to wise mothers like yourself.
By Jayne L. on 09/18/2008 9:45 am
Kryssi K
I couldn’t work full time at that age (and ban barely can now) either, but it was because my combined depression/anxiety physiology that made/makes it impossible. Don’t know what her story is, though - I’m only sharing in case she’s one of the ones whose parents medicate her as a form of discipline. Those drugs can do a number on the body and cause one to come off as “lazy” when really they suffer from severe lethargy as a side effect of either 1) antidepressants, or 2) ACTUAL depression that’s been left untreated. (Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.) There’s something to be said about the correlation between that stuff and the growing lack of motivation in kids these days. I swear there’s something in the water…
By Kryssi K on 09/18/2008 4:20 pm
Beth Clemenson
I understand the concerns that many people from an older generation have espoused regarding the “Y” or “Millennial” generation. Fear that people born between 1980 and 2000 are spoiled, self absorbed, and have an over inflated sense of self. I also would like to point out that this is not just a generational issue but one of class and race as well. This generation is a direct result of the atmosphere in the 1980’s (and after). Many of these kids are part of a generation raised not by their parents but by the T.V. or public schools. Our age group has a massive handicap; called the helicopter parent. We were never expected to take responsibility, never taught how to budget, never shown how to have a respectful relationship (remember, the babyboomers have a great disdane for thier parents
By Beth Clemenson on 09/17/2008 11:53 am
Deb K
This about sums it all up I think: You could hardly see for all the snow, Spread the rabbit ears as far as they go. Pull a chair up to the TV set, ‘Good Night, David. Good Night, Chet.’ My Mom used to cut chicken, chop eggs and spread mayo on the same cutting board with the same knife and no bleach, but we didn’t seem to get food poisoning. My Mom used to defrost hamburger on the counter AND I used to eat it raw sometimes, too. Our school sandwiches were wrapped in wax paper in a brown paper bag, not in ice-pack coolers, but I can’t remember getting e.coli. Almost all of us would have rather gone swimming in the lake instead of a pristine pool (talk about boring), no beach closures then. The term cell phone would have conjured up a phone in a jail cell, and a pager was the school PA system. We all took gym, not PE and risked permanent injury with a pair of high top Ked’s (only worn in gym) instead of having cross-training athletic shoes with air cushion soles and built in light reflectors. I can’t recall any injuries, but they must have happened because they tell us how much safer we are now. Flunking gym was not an option, even for stupid kids! I guess PE must be much harder than gym. Speaking of school, we all said prayers and sang the national anthem, and staying in detention after school caught all sorts of negative attention. We must have had horribly damaged psyches. What an archaic health system we had then. Remember school nurses? Ours wore a hat and everything. I thought that I was supposed to accomplish something before I was allowed to be proud of myself. I just can’t recall how bored we were without computers, Play Station, Nintendo, X-box or 270 digital TV cable stations. Oh yeah … and where was the Benadryl and sterilization kit when I got that bee sting? I could have been killed! We played ‘king of the hill’ on piles of gravel left on vacant construction sites, and when we got hurt, Mom pulled out the 48-cent bottle of Mercurochrome (kids liked it better because it didn’t sting like iodine did) and then we got our butt spanked. Now it’s a trip to the emergency room, followed by a 10-day dose of a $49 bottle of antibiotics, and then Mom calls the attorney to sue the contractor for leaving a horribly vicious pile of gravel where it was such a threat. We didn’t act up at the neighbor’s house either because if we did, we got our butt spanked there and then we got butt spanked again when we got home. I recall Donny Reynolds from next door coming over and doing his tricks on the front step, just before he fell off. Little did his Mom know that she could have owned our house. Instead, she picked him up and swatted him for being such a goof. It was a neighborhood run amuck. To top it off, not a single person I knew had ever been told that they were from a dysfunctional family. How could we possibly have known that? We needed to get into group therapy and anger management classes? We were obviously so duped by so many societal ills that we didn’t even notice that the entire country wasn’t taking Prozac! How did we ever survive?
By Deb K on 09/17/2008 12:36 pm
Jennifer Dooley
WOW!!! i had missed this I am really glad I had the oppertunity to read this powerful piece. You got talent. Off to the others..Thank you, LOve Jen…
By Jennifer Dooley on 09/19/2008 9:35 pm
Jennifer Dooley
WOW!!! i had missed this I am really glad I had the opportunity to read this powerful piece. You got talent. Off to the others..Thank you, LOve Jen…
By Jennifer Dooley on 09/19/2008 9:59 pm
Kryssi K
Uhh, my friends and I are only in our MID-TWENTIES (almost) and even WE have noticed the disturbingly vast differences in behaviors of the young folk, even those who are only a couple years or so behind us! When (no, WHY) did parents stop teaching their kids to say “excuse me” before or even after they RAM into you (usually because they’re too enchanted by their cell phones to notice that other human beings DO walk and dwell among them)? Also, I see the words “thank you” and “please” are completely evaporating from the English language. One of my hobbies has become watching parents allow their demonic brats to control them in grocery and retail stores. Sometimes I have no choice but to break my silence and yell anonymously “SLAP them already!” I’m no angel, but I do at least know some BASICS of common courtesy. Even when I was a little child. Sheesh. For instance: a few years ago, my little cousin who was 4-ish at the time, was in my room playing video games (family was here for Thanksgiving). Later after dinner I walked in to find this rare print ad (forget what they’re actually called) for That ’70s Show had been RIPPED TO SHREDS. I had it adhered to the door of the entertainment center because, I don’t know really, it was near my TV and that was my most favorite TV show. God I was weird. EITHER WAY, I spent quite a bit of cash on that collector’s item, and how does a conscientious human - a sentient being - just make the decision to annihilate SOMEONE ELSE’S PROPERTY? He was FOUR YEARS OLD, not four DAYS. Am I crazy for thinking that’s old enough to know that tearing someone’s sh!t up is not right? Because I NEVER did stuff like that when *I* was that age!
By Kryssi K on 09/17/2008 4:00 pm
Lorraine Bates
Kryssi, I was glad to read your point of view. I think you point out the dangerous combination of kids with no rules (or very few rules), and being overly praised. I hate hearing my friends say their children are “gifted” because they ARE bright, but then complaining about how they are sullen and depressed when they get a B on their report card. I saw kids like this even when I was a teen - set up to be thought of as superior by their parents - superior talent, superior smarts, etc, etc, - then they got to the real world - college and jobs - and found out they were average or just above average, and their entire identities were shot. I got complimented by my parents when it was deserved - when I got a good part in the school play, when I came in second in a swim meet, when I got an A on a test that was really hard for me. They pushed me to do my best, and acknowledged when I did, but I never got kudos just for being me. And I’ve raised my kids the same way. They have table manners, say please and thank you, don’t touch things in other people’s homes (even at age 4) unless invited to do so, and they hold open doors for people and call all of our adult friends “Miss (first name here)” or “Mister (first name here)” - a hold over from my southern upbringing. I wouldn’t yell at parents who let their kids run out of control in the grocery store - I might have at 20, but I don’t at 40. But I have dropped friends who’s kids have habits and behaviors I don’t want mine to learn. Oh - and I love That 70’s Show too - that was my youth!
By Lorraine Bates on 09/17/2008 4:55 pm
HA BIBI
I raised both my children up to be independent, responsible thinking, morally upstanding adults. It paid off. In the raising of them, I taught them values, morals, manners and the meaning of and value of the dollar. I bought them everything they needed and half of what they wanted. In other words, if they wanted something then they had to work extra chores or earn their money doing odd jobs for the neighbors such as mowing the lawns or babysitting ect…At that point, Mom would meet them half way. They had to take the first step in aquiring what ever it was they wanted. I also raised my Son, that it was ok to cry when he was hurt over something and I taught my daughter to be aggressive enough to do what ever she put her mind to. I praised them when they did the right thing and disciplined them when they didn’t. My discipline of them was to talk to them and let them tell me how they could have handled a particular situation better than perhaps the choice they made at the time. I also was a firm believer in work now, play later. When they came home from school, it was have a snack, chill out for a bit and then buckle down and get the homework done and your school clothes ready for the next day. Then they were free to enjoy their activities. Both my children were jocks, which I believe teaches children valuable lessons about character building and teamwork. I was a single parent for many years so all of us had to be disciplined as well as effecient with our time.
By HA BIBI on 09/17/2008 7:16 pm
C Hardy
Elaine…I have a 2 1/2 year old and we are trying to raise her with those same values and manners. She is already saying Please and Thank You. She is so friendly she says HI to everyone and when we leave a store she has to say BYE and blow kisses…Most think its cute b/c she is cute, sometimes I see others shaking their heads and all I can do is make eye contact and shake my head in return. Not all parents of young children arent raising their kids wrong…Kids are different so what works for one child may not work for my child. I am learning how my daughter learns and she learns from us speaking directly to her, not freaking out and yelling at her. Oh well…its a no win situation bc even if my child was the best mannered she would still get under someone’s skin who just doesnt like kids…
By C Hardy on 09/17/2008 9:38 pm
Kryssi K
I don’t like kids (personal thing; didn’t like them when I WAS a kid, either - and perhaps it’s got everything to do with what we’re discussing on this forum)…but I can still spot and appreciate a well-mannered child with a decent upbringing!
By Kryssi K on 09/18/2008 4:23 pm
C Hardy
Kryssi K…not liking kids is ok. I have respect for others and I try to teach my daughter the same but she is 2 1/2…there is only so much anyone can expect from a 2 year old. I can tell you this much…It pains me to go out and see parents totally ignoring their kids and letting them do whatever they want. At one of our local malls there is a lady who works at one of the food places in the food court and she has 2 daughters that are about 6 & 7 maybe…they stay at the mall all day or night when their Mother is working…I mean they walk around the mall alone while Mom is working. I know daycare is expensive but anyone could take those little girls and she would never see them again…Then you see parents walking, talking on cell phones, while their kids are either 10 feet ahead of them or 10 feet behind them…and I am like…UMMMMM excuse me are those your kids??? I just dont get it. I fear turning around & not seeing my daughter…I keep my eye on her at all times when we are out. I hardly ever go anywhere alone with her for that reason. I know not everyone likes kids so when mine walks over to strangers to say HI or blow kisses I explain to her that not everyone appreciates it but I know she doesnt understand and I dont want to hurt her feelings but it is sad to see her say HI to someone and they not acknowledge her, you can see the sadness in her eyes and I just hug her and kiss her and make her laugh to move her over that…
By C Hardy on 09/18/2008 7:50 pm