Conversation | 04/21/2008 9:22 am
Does a Little Obama 'Elitism' Go a Long Way in Politics?

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WHOOPI: What’s insane about it, again, is no one knows what windsurfing is, so people allow themselves to be swayed. Nobody knows the reason we windsurfed all the time was actually because it was the cheapest way to be on the water.
LIZ: Well, one man’s elitist is another man’s role model and idol.
JOAN: On which beach, Whoopi?
WHOOPI: In San Diego. When I lived in San Diego. You could go to the beach in San Diego and pay, 5000 years ago, 10 bucks and get a surfboard with the little sail on it.
LESLEY: So it’s poor man’s sailing?
LIZ: But Whoopi, at least you knew what chili was, honey.
WHOOPI: Only because I knew some white people from Texas.
JOAN: But, Whoopi, what you’re actually saying is that there’s never been a black candidate before about whom anything could be said, elitist or whatever, right?
WHOOPI: Well, nobody that anybody thought could actually win. So they never thought Shirley Chisholm could win. They never thought Jesse Jackson could win. They never thought that the Rev. Al Sharpton could win. So that never happened. The same with the women. I mean, with Hillary, you know, I remember … or maybe I’m misremembering this, but I seem to remember that that was what they also used about them. That they had their elite little circle and that they were very hip and they always hung with a certain kind of person. I mean, it’s the same old shit.
LIZ: Well, you’re really right. I mean, President Clinton was made fun of because he got up and played the saxophone. There’s always something somebody doesn’t like about everyone.
LESLEY: Do any of you think that Obama could have done a more skillful job of getting out from under this attack and that he’s not very good when he’s thrown on the offensive?
WHOOPI: Yeah. Well here’s the thing: whenever she has said, "Listen that’s what he did. I’m doing this." No one ever listened.
LIZ: Well, you’re right. But I mean, that’s one of the drawbacks. This whole thing is vastly unfair. Unfair to her. Unfair to Obama.
LESLEY: But that’s the game. And I think you have to play it well.
LIZ: The way we’re electing presidents is very weird these days.
JOAN: How come there’s only one Republican candidate and there are two Democratic ones? Did I miss something?
LIZ: Well, Lesley, didn’t the Democrats just set themselves up in a different way? You can explain that.
LESLEY: Well you could, if you were a Democrat. And, of course, I don’t have opinions whatsoever. But if you were a Democrat you could argue that they had two really excellent candidates.
LIZ: Well they do.
LESLEY: And that they’ve lasted because they’re good. You could say that, if you were a Democrat.
JOAN: And if you were a Republican …
LIZ: OK, I’ll say that. I’m a Democrat.
JOAN: I’m a Democrat.
LIZ: Well, one man’s elitist is another man’s role model and idol.
JOAN: On which beach, Whoopi?
WHOOPI: In San Diego. When I lived in San Diego. You could go to the beach in San Diego and pay, 5000 years ago, 10 bucks and get a surfboard with the little sail on it.
LESLEY: So it’s poor man’s sailing?
LIZ: But Whoopi, at least you knew what chili was, honey.
WHOOPI: Only because I knew some white people from Texas.
JOAN: But, Whoopi, what you’re actually saying is that there’s never been a black candidate before about whom anything could be said, elitist or whatever, right?
WHOOPI: Well, nobody that anybody thought could actually win. So they never thought Shirley Chisholm could win. They never thought Jesse Jackson could win. They never thought that the Rev. Al Sharpton could win. So that never happened. The same with the women. I mean, with Hillary, you know, I remember … or maybe I’m misremembering this, but I seem to remember that that was what they also used about them. That they had their elite little circle and that they were very hip and they always hung with a certain kind of person. I mean, it’s the same old shit.
LIZ: Well, you’re really right. I mean, President Clinton was made fun of because he got up and played the saxophone. There’s always something somebody doesn’t like about everyone.
LESLEY: Do any of you think that Obama could have done a more skillful job of getting out from under this attack and that he’s not very good when he’s thrown on the offensive?
WHOOPI: Yeah. Well here’s the thing: whenever she has said, "Listen that’s what he did. I’m doing this." No one ever listened.
LIZ: Well, you’re right. But I mean, that’s one of the drawbacks. This whole thing is vastly unfair. Unfair to her. Unfair to Obama.
LESLEY: But that’s the game. And I think you have to play it well.
LIZ: The way we’re electing presidents is very weird these days.
JOAN: How come there’s only one Republican candidate and there are two Democratic ones? Did I miss something?
LIZ: Well, Lesley, didn’t the Democrats just set themselves up in a different way? You can explain that.
LESLEY: Well you could, if you were a Democrat. And, of course, I don’t have opinions whatsoever. But if you were a Democrat you could argue that they had two really excellent candidates.
LIZ: Well they do.
LESLEY: And that they’ve lasted because they’re good. You could say that, if you were a Democrat.
JOAN: And if you were a Republican …
LIZ: OK, I’ll say that. I’m a Democrat.
JOAN: I’m a Democrat.























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