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Conversation | 11/18/2008 9:45 am

Candice Bergen: What Murphy Brown Would Have Said About Sarah Palin

A Conversation with Candice Bergen, Cynthia McFadden and Liz Smith on the Palin Effect
CANDICE: Well, it’s very hard not to have had the show during this because it just is such a feast. Murphy was thrown out of the White House by the Clintons on a number of occasions, but I think Murphy would have reconciled with Hillary, who she might have overlapped with at Wellesley, and would have supported Hillary until Hillary dropped out, and then just thrown everything behind Obama – which is sort of what I did.

LIZ: But, Murphy was a correspondent. Would they have thrown her off of the network?

CANDICE: Oh, well, she would have had to have done it, subversively, of course.

LIZ: Yes, she would have been chomping at the bit all the time.

CYNTHIA: I think she would have had an interview with Sarah Palin. What do you think?

CANDICE: Oh, God, that would have been fantastic.

CYNTHIA: Wouldn’t you have loved that?

LIZ: Well, I know that Candy doesn’t wish to die young, so there’s no way Murphy could come back. But, God, it would be great if Murphy could come back.

CANDICE: As long as Sarah Palin remained peak entertainment and wasn’t elected, what a galvanizing moment.

LIZ: Well, I think she’ll become a really interesting, polarizing point because she presents the Republican party with a real dilemma. Are they going her way or are they going to ever go back to being the "establishment conservatives" they were once — the elite, the rich, the privileged.

CYNTHIA: Well, I can tell you, on that lawn in Phoenix on election night, people were furious that Sarah Palin didn’t speak. They wanted to hear from Sarah. She definitely had spoken to a deep segment of the Republican party and it’ll be interesting to see what happens next. 

LIZ: What was the reason she didn’t speak?

CYNTHIA: Oh, it was complicated. You know, Joe Biden didn’t speak either. But there was something going on and I can tell you only what happened. We first got notification that she was going out – presumably to speak, prior to John McCain taking the podium. But we all went out to be in position. About 15 minutes after that we got an e-mail from her press secretary saying that she was not going to speak and might not even be on the podium, or on the stage. Now, the speculation has been — I don’t know that this is true or not true — the speculation was that she was in fact prepared to speak, and that she was told by the McCain people that she would not be speaking, and wasn’t too happy about that. Clearly there was trouble in paradise. It’s not McCain and Palin themselves. Their staffs had it with each other by that point. We’ve seen some of that in the press in the last few days.

LIZ: Well, ladies, we haven’t heard the end of her yet. A lot of people delight in her and she drives a lot of other people crazy. So you see, we aren’t done yet. If she stays in the Republican party in a very large manner, it sure won’t be the party of William Buckley anymore, will it? I mean, it’ll be a party not of devout intellectuals but only of evangelicals and really right-wing people. And I hate to say this, a lot of people that don’t think very straight, in my humble opinion. So it’ll either kill the Republican party or the party could persevere because of Sarah Palin. That would be very bad, in my opinion.

189 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Frannie Em
Karma by the Sea When are you going to get over her? What do you care?
By Frannie Em on 11/19/2008 1:18 am
Barbara Taylor
Frannie, You are so right, it’s time to move on. There are better things to be discussing or disagreeing than to keep talking about Palin. I think Suzanne, it is your real name right, like to provoke people on this site.
By Barbara Taylor on 11/19/2008 7:13 pm
Linda Mason
Hi Carmel …. You Go, Girl! I’m with you — just because SOME OF US managed to prevent Palin from becoming “a heart beat away” from the Oval Office, does not mean we can let our guard down and let her become a sort of martyr in the public’s eyes. It makes me sick to see her giving all sorts of interviews (NOW) to the press (post-election) complaining that she was mistreated by the MSM! What she fails to see is that you can’t engage in “Straight Talk” if you’re in denial!
By Linda Mason on 11/20/2008 9:21 pm
Linda Mason
I want to clarify that my “reply” at 10:21 pm on 11/20 was to Carmel’s very 1st comment about Palin — that’s all. I don’t agree with every comment she made about Republicans. Yes, the GOP has major problems and I don’t grieve for that because they brought it on themselves. I do not support comments putting down people who live in trailerparks, and similar comments. I just don’t generalize that way (not on good days!) — either about trailer park residents, or Republicans!
By Linda Mason on 11/20/2008 9:30 pm
lynn burghoff
Boy, liberal women really hate conservative women don’t they? Palin is a self made woman who should be admired regardless of her politics. She is a role model for little girls everywhere just like Hillary Clinton is. The hatred here is stunning.
By lynn burghoff on 11/22/2008 7:59 pm
Irish Eyes NY
Oh come on, Carmel-by-the-cesspool: Tell us how you really feel about Sarah!!
By Irish Eyes NY on 11/22/2008 8:06 pm
mary lou s
bible spice.”
By mary lou s on 11/18/2008 10:32 am
Delete This
bible spice” Ya Vole! L’idiot! “Talking Points Caribou Barbie” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWhPsxXuMHw “Sarah Palin is an Idiot” No merde, Sherlock. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeMsxqJIePg
By Delete This on 11/18/2008 4:04 pm
DeBúrca obj
I like your direct videos “Sarah Palin is an Idiot”… everyone, including me, is tip toeing around actually saying that because we don’t want to get into a bit “why are you bashing Sarah Palin” debate in here… but really, she IS an idiot (at the very least on the scale of VP expectations) and this subject needs to be over.
By DeBúrca obj on 11/18/2008 4:30 pm
Dona Howlett
De Burca, I was just reading Dick Cavett’ blog. This is a portion of a boggers comment. It expresses my feelings exactly. ** She might, just might, be good enough for most people in Alaska, but she will never possess the countenance or mental aptitude to be leader of the free world. Let’s face it, in the global marketplace, the President of the United States is not a job for the mentally infirmed or the intellectually common. ************* I loved this………….so concise………..so short………..so simple……….soTRUE
By Dona Howlett on 11/19/2008 1:17 am
DeBúrca obj
And VERY important to say too, because we need to set the record straight about this woman before the base of the GOP, referred to in another article as “The new Know-nothings”… before they idolize her into something she most definitely is not and attempt to inflict her on the rest of us. She is not the caliber of a world leader.
By DeBúrca obj on 11/19/2008 8:04 am
Linda Mason
Hi DeBurca! It’s not “bashing” it it’s true! She is an idiot! And she’ll go down in history as a candidate for V.P.! I still can’t get over it! Waiting for Jan. 20th!
By Linda Mason on 11/20/2008 9:34 pm
DeBúrca obj
I don’t know what to call the party I’m going to have on Jan. 20th…. Hail to our new chief President Obama! -or- Good Riddance Bush!
By DeBúrca obj on 11/20/2008 10:07 pm
DeBúrca obj
Nothing is complicated about the fact that Palin didn’t speak. Vice-presidential nominees do not traditionally speak on election night.
By DeBúrca obj on 11/18/2008 10:36 am
SB Kane
Thank you for pointing that out - I was wondering why Cynthia was trying to make it sound so conspiratorial. I can’t remember EVER seeing a VP candidate speak on election night.
By SB Kane on 11/18/2008 6:55 pm