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Conversation | 05/09/2008 4:43 pm

Cokie Roberts: 'Hillary Is Negotiating Her Withdrawal'

© AP

A Q&A with ABC News correspondent Cokie Roberts.

LESLEY: Let’s talk about Hillary. I’m wondering, how do you explain her unwillingness, at this point, to throw in the towel? Does she really think she has a shot at winning this? Is she addicted to campaigning, which is my favorite possibility here. She’s kind of unable to give it up. Does she think there’s another shoe to drop with Obama? What do you think?

COKIE: I think that she is taking a somewhat graceful and prolonged exit. You know, when you’ve been running this hard and have won this much, you don’t just go. And the truth is, when you’re this significant a candidate you negotiate a withdrawal. It’s almost like a plea bargain. You start talking about paying off debt and about convention roles. There are all kinds of things that have to be negotiated. But I also do think that she feels strongly that she is the better candidate — and you can make a good case of that given the way the votes played out in these primaries and caucuses — and that by staying in until it’s over, perhaps something will happen.

LESLEY: Assuming, though, that he does win this nomination, do you think she will be anything less than enthusiastically behind him and corralling her supporters into his camp? Or, is there any chance there’ll be a moment like the one at the ‘80 convention.

COKIE: No, I don’t think there’s going to be that kind of moment. I think that Hillary Clinton is too interested in her own political future to be seen as someone who is tearing the party apart at that moment.

LESLEY: Will she go all out, do you think?

COKIE: I think she’d campaign for him. But, you can’t move your supporters. You know that, Lesley. The endorsements hardly matter at all, particularly at the presidential level. Or she can say, "I want everybody to vote for him. I think he’s terrific. I think he should be president." And those working-class Democrats who voted for her can say, "Have yourself a ball, Hillary. I’m voting for John McCain."

LESLEY: And do you think that’s going to happen?

COKIE: I do think that’s going to happen in a lot of cases.

LESLEY: Really?

COKIE: The fact that John McCain is doing as well as he is in a year that should by all odds be an overwhelmingly Democratic year tells you that there’s a lot of unhappiness with these Democratic candidates. You know, many people say this was the year when the Democrats needed to nominate a boring white guy, somebody who you didn’t even hear talk because all he needed to have was "D" after his name.

LESLEY: Show up, right?

COKIE: Show up. Exactly. And instead they’ve had this very exciting, historic nomination process. But it might not work so well for them in the end.

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Buh- Bye
Yes it’s pack journalism at its worst today. Not a maverick in the lot.
By Buh- Bye on 05/11/2008 1:48 pm
Frannie Em
Alias - here here!!
By Frannie Em on 05/11/2008 4:18 pm
beth willis
Bloody well stated, Mugsy Peabody. I’ll march those streets with you anytime. One doesn’t abandon conviction, principles and rational thinking easily. In fact, we aren’t abandoning them at all. Should I have, to I will acclimate, but I won’t be subverted…..subversive perhaps, but not trounced on by any candidates supporters.
By beth willis on 05/10/2008 12:41 am
Dora M
Mugsy, I just re-read my comments and I really don’t see where I have called anyone cynical or any other names nor reduced anything about this to a simple-minded sports analogy. Obviously there are a lot of passionately held beliefs about one candidate or the other and ultimately I find that encouraging; in my mind it means that hopefully there is enough outrage about what has happened to this country to make people wake up and participate, what I cannot get through my head is the notion of “my candidate didn’t get nominated so I’m gonna sit out the whole election”, I’m simply stating my opinion that no one is going to reclaim anything unless we all at least vote. I’m honestly stunned at the vitriol that this whole situation elicits, I’ve gotten into such uncomfortable conversations with people who I routinely talk politics with and with who I thought we all had the common goal of putting an end to this neo-con hi-jacking of our country yet now it’s turned into some serious division.
By Dora M on 05/10/2008 2:49 am
Mugsy Peabody
Thanks for this.
By Mugsy Peabody on 05/10/2008 4:18 am
Renata
Dora - this attitude is a common thread of HRC supporters. It is a hallmark of HRC’s Campaign. She WINS or else… We are NOT Bill. We will not be terrorized into choosing HRC or else. We will WIN despite her (George W.’s) defiance, mockery, etc. We don’t OWE her the Presidency. That’s Bill’s debt — except WE are not his commodity to trade with any longer — in Office or, after this Nomination process, out of it. We will be set free of the Bush/Clinton dynasties and the commoditization of American interests coming and going.
By Renata on 05/10/2008 3:33 pm
zut alors
Dora…Yes they REALLY are….just like their leader. Who I am soooooo glad I’m not voting for.
By zut alors on 05/12/2008 3:39 am
Flora Dora
If you are a D. and you stay home, you could very well be voting for McCain. Racism and antifeminism are real threats in this country. A white male taxi driver told me he was voting for McCain for this reason. I had an uncle who admitted at the age of forty he’d never voted. He was treated like a child molester so maybe I feel stronger than most about this.
By Flora Dora on 05/09/2008 8:41 pm
Maurine H
I must agree, Dora, that I really don’t understand the “my way or the highway” mentality. I support Obama but if Clinton were to become the candidate I would gladly vote for her rather than vote for someone else or not vote at all. I’m willing to wager that the non-nominated Democratic candidate will choose to vote for the nominee instead of McCain in November. Each has pretty much stated that. The acrimony sometimes expressed here surprises me - possibly because I’m not a blogging veteran or maybe because I think most people are not vindictive by nature. Silly me.
By Maurine H on 05/09/2008 9:05 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Oh, there you go again, Maurine, being a grownup! Okay, well, if ya hafta.
By Mugsy Peabody on 05/10/2008 11:39 pm
Elizabeth Bennett
Politics is a team sport, if it is any sort of sport at all. When Obama has the delegates needed for the nomination—and right now he has probabilities, not the number of delegates needed—then the other candidates, including Clinton will rally behind him. She is not about to run as an independent. And as Raum Emmanuel pointed out today, there are still ways that Clinton could get the nomination. Less likely ways, and ways that would require unexpected things to happen. But there are still ways. My guess is that Clinton will keep campaigning till Obama has 2025 delegates or the primaries are over, whichever comes first. What is wrong with letting the good people of Oregon, Kentucky, West Virginia, Montana, South Dakota and Puerto Rico weigh in? They have yet to vote. Declaring a victor now is going to suppress turnout in those primaries. One reason people got interested in Obama early on was this speech on Iraq when he was an Illinois legislator: http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama’s_Iraq_Speech Compare that to http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html [video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wyCBF5CsCA&NR=1 ] I am glad she is taking the weekend off. It IS Mother’s Day. She needs some sleep.
By Elizabeth Bennett on 05/09/2008 10:24 pm
zut alors
Elizabeth- The Obama Iraq speech link didn’t work, here’s a print copy http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama’s_Iraq_Speech And here’s a 2002 vid interview. In a couple of minutes, in 2002 when if you dared speak out against the rush to preemptive, illegal war you were branded a traitor, a cut and runner, a terrorist lover etc.he said everything that Bush could NEVER say….HE WAS RIGHT and he was COURAGEOUS. Something that HRC was not in her vote for an illegal, unConstitutional , unnecessary war. And it anybody thinks that was OK look at the result. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po
By zut alors on 05/09/2008 11:25 pm
sl lambert
i wish wowowow would make some effort to edit these postings…i don’t read wowowow for these egotistical regurgitations by self aggradizing blowhards. blow hards. anyway. Hillary Clinton is a terrific candidate and very qualified to be President, but it’s over. she is hurting herself to stay in,giving people excuses to criticize the Clintons. She was much better than her campaign and it makes me so sad, but I hope she will withdraw soon and i hope Obama will offer the VP slot and she should take it.
By sl lambert on 05/09/2008 11:08 pm
Star Lawrence
Edit these postings!?? No way. How about just not posting the ones some “moderators” disagree with, like they do on Huffington? If that ever started—I am so out!
By Star Lawrence on 05/10/2008 11:16 am
Itsok Boyoro
I have found a serious divide between my position and those provided on this topic. I think Hillary is not the right answer for us or, more so for Generation X. It is obvious that Generation X is not on this site since these responses are quite breath taking. With all the comments where is the real validation of evidence on why anyone here supports Hillary. Unfortunately the comments are supported with the emotional loss, sympathy and waning for a Women as Potus. However the deduction of a rationale argument is palpable. Hillary has fought hard however has not shown she represents every American. If she is less divisive then Obama, then why are more of her supporters so ready to slam the door on the democratic process and run to support McCain or not vote at all. While most of Obama’s and or McCains for that matter are not. Women have made great strides especially white women. They have benefited more than any other group of people from affirmative action - more than Latinos, African Americans, Asians, and American Indians (etc). There still is much to be done but really life is not that bad. Its not good enough to have any Woman as Potus, its best to have the right Woman. I am willing to wait I hope you are too.
By Itsok Boyoro on 05/09/2008 11:20 pm