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Conversation | 05/09/2008 4:43 pm

Cokie Roberts: 'Hillary Is Negotiating Her Withdrawal'

© AP

A Q&A with ABC News correspondent Cokie Roberts.

LESLEY: Let’s talk about Hillary. I’m wondering, how do you explain her unwillingness, at this point, to throw in the towel? Does she really think she has a shot at winning this? Is she addicted to campaigning, which is my favorite possibility here. She’s kind of unable to give it up. Does she think there’s another shoe to drop with Obama? What do you think?

COKIE: I think that she is taking a somewhat graceful and prolonged exit. You know, when you’ve been running this hard and have won this much, you don’t just go. And the truth is, when you’re this significant a candidate you negotiate a withdrawal. It’s almost like a plea bargain. You start talking about paying off debt and about convention roles. There are all kinds of things that have to be negotiated. But I also do think that she feels strongly that she is the better candidate — and you can make a good case of that given the way the votes played out in these primaries and caucuses — and that by staying in until it’s over, perhaps something will happen.

LESLEY: Assuming, though, that he does win this nomination, do you think she will be anything less than enthusiastically behind him and corralling her supporters into his camp? Or, is there any chance there’ll be a moment like the one at the ‘80 convention.

COKIE: No, I don’t think there’s going to be that kind of moment. I think that Hillary Clinton is too interested in her own political future to be seen as someone who is tearing the party apart at that moment.

LESLEY: Will she go all out, do you think?

COKIE: I think she’d campaign for him. But, you can’t move your supporters. You know that, Lesley. The endorsements hardly matter at all, particularly at the presidential level. Or she can say, "I want everybody to vote for him. I think he’s terrific. I think he should be president." And those working-class Democrats who voted for her can say, "Have yourself a ball, Hillary. I’m voting for John McCain."

LESLEY: And do you think that’s going to happen?

COKIE: I do think that’s going to happen in a lot of cases.

LESLEY: Really?

COKIE: The fact that John McCain is doing as well as he is in a year that should by all odds be an overwhelmingly Democratic year tells you that there’s a lot of unhappiness with these Democratic candidates. You know, many people say this was the year when the Democrats needed to nominate a boring white guy, somebody who you didn’t even hear talk because all he needed to have was "D" after his name.

LESLEY: Show up, right?

COKIE: Show up. Exactly. And instead they’ve had this very exciting, historic nomination process. But it might not work so well for them in the end.

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Mugsy Peabody
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
By Mugsy Peabody on 05/10/2008 7:56 pm
mary lou s
thank you, mugsy.
By mary lou s on 05/11/2008 9:18 pm
Renata
I have been an Obama supporter from NYC since he announced. After HRC’s vote FOR the Iraq War, deflecting from focusing on Afghanistan and Osama bin-Ladin, as well as the mismanagement of her Campaign and dependency upon Obama supporters for a financial bail-out of HER loans to carry her Campaign — I will not support Barack Obama if he invites Clinton Inc. onto the ticket. Instead of making HER case, HRC entered the race as the defacto, entitled, establishment shoo-in. When Iowa told her differently, she had NO PLAN for the long haul — and no funding, despite all the “supporters” who challenge us. Her case is SOMETHING MIGHT HAPPEN to Barack. That is NOT a case I can or will support. Wishing for lightening to strike one’s political opponent, or hoping the Party implodes if you are not chosen, is insupportable by me. Finally, HRC should have to pay ALL of her own bills — or ask HER supporters to do so, to keep this vanity candidacy going — replete with self-serving negotiations leveraging her supporters and the Party’s success in the Fall, as hostage. Obama supporters should NOT have to pay the bills for HRC’s traveling circus for Bill/Chelsea/HRC and the respective entourages — to trash our candidate or hope lightening strikes (yuk!) — after he has won by playing by the established rules of engagement every step of the way.
By Renata on 05/10/2008 1:00 pm
ariadne a
hey renata… i would pay almost anything to see her go away.
By ariadne a on 05/10/2008 1:49 pm
Renata
Ariadne: She’s NEGOTIATING how much you, I…the DNC and probably her “home” State of New York has to PAY right now! The last six States, women voters and “hard working white voters” are pawns in this NEGOTIATION. I will NOT have my interests hijacked by Clinton Inc. It is clear even by this post the NEGOTIATION underway is about HER, not Americans. We have to PAY her to leave the race, or else…. Nice. New Yorkers I know can’t believe this shakedown technique. WE know it for what it is.
By Renata on 05/10/2008 5:13 pm
Why J9
I would anti up myself- except at this point, with only three weeks left, it makes sense for her to ride it out to the end. She will eventually ‘lose’, (no matter how the numbers get crunched) and then she should make the case to her supporters that she lost, ‘FAIR-AND-SQUARE’, and now it’s time to do the most sensible thing for the country and make sure a Democrat wins the House. If she exits before the finish line, it’ll make it even harder for her to convince her supports that she wasn’t forced out- adding even more lingering hard feelings the Party will have to overcome. Once she loses- and she will lose- what other option is there?
By Why J9 on 05/11/2008 1:48 am
Frannie Em
Wild heather, in earlier post stated my reasons why think it a bad idea, but how about Secretary of State of Hillary - It is a big part of international policy making
By Frannie Em on 05/10/2008 6:10 pm
Renata
Bosnia delusions and lies would not a quality Secretary of State make. We have had enough LIARS mismanaging American foreign policy.
By Renata on 05/10/2008 7:34 pm
Frannie Em
Renata, point taken
By Frannie Em on 05/10/2008 9:03 pm
Buh- Bye
wild heather, Hillary’s supporters didn’t have to put pressure on her to suggest Obama as her VP. You might have missed that blip in the campaign when Clinton outright said he was at the top of her list. Obama promptly shot all that down. And then went on to make it very clear that she was not on his list at all.
By Buh- Bye on 05/10/2008 9:51 am
Mugsy Peabody
In fact (standing on my head and turning blue), my thought was always John Edwards, until someone suggested he would be so powerful as AG.
By Mugsy Peabody on 05/10/2008 2:58 pm
Deni G
John Edwards AG! Oh wow! Would that be a beautiful thing, or what?!!!!!!!!
By Deni G on 05/11/2008 1:43 pm
zut alors
Yes, John Edwards as AG of Department of Justice would be terrific. And what about the other cabinet level positions? I say combine the Dept of Agriculture, Interior and EPA- and have Bill Richards head this larger and inter-related agency. Secretary of Commerce-? Secretary of State-Joe Biden Secretary of Education-? Secretary of Energy-? Combine the Secretary of Defense-and Homeland Security under one super agency with Wesley Clark at the helm. Secretary of Labor? Secretary of HUD? Secretary of Veteran Affairs-Former Senator Max Cleland. Secretary of Transportation-? Secretary of Treasury-?
By zut alors on 05/11/2008 10:35 pm
Star Lawrence
I would never respect Hillary for taking VP with this fellow. And it would not make me vote for the ticket, either. I have been a Dem for 45 yrs.
By Star Lawrence on 05/10/2008 10:40 am
Renata
We AGREE totally — on this point. As an Obama supporter, we cannot AFFORD Clinton Inc.’s spending and mismanagement of hundreds of millions of dollars on CONSULTANTS and toadies. Nor do we believe in Philly-style “street money” payouts for VOTES.
By Renata on 05/10/2008 1:19 pm