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Conversation | 11/13/2008 3:45 pm

Cynthia McFadden Recalls Vitriolic Remarks Among John McCain Supporters Election Night

Cynthia, Candice Bergen and Liz Smith discuss Election 2008, from conversation on the campaign floor, to McCain’s concession speech and Obama’s challenges to come
© AP
CYNTHIA: We started on Monday morning at five o’clock. We met up with him in Florida and stayed for that unbelievable last day.

CANDICE: How was that, Cynthia?

CYNTHIA: It was fascinating. You know, it was hard to tell in those last 48 hours whether he was rallying the troops or saying goodbye. And it was a very interesting, up-close look at this man who both wanted this office so much, and I think reasonably understood that he wasn’t going to achieve this goal. I was telling some friends the other night, our first stop was Tampa, and there was a huge football stadium, so we thought we were headed to the stadium. But, in fact, we were going to the parking lot of the stadium, where only a couple of hundred, not tens of thousands, people had gathered. But they had cleverly arranged the TV shots so that the stadium was behind. It looked as if we were in the stadium. So it was very … you know, it was very interesting to see the clever political stagecraft of it all. On election night I was about 50 feet away from John McCain when he gave the speech, which I must say I thought was an honorable speech.

CANDICE: He really redeemed himself with that speech I thought.

CYNTHIA: Well, what was so upsetting to me, and I think so many people, was the level of vitriol in the audience. And I understand the open wound it must have been for those who really believed in him and wanted him to be president. But, oh gosh, people said all manner of things. 

CANDICE: Well, that’s been consistent. The Sarah Palin crowds were hair-raising. And with McCain, too. The "kill Obama" and "he’s an Arab." I mean, just the worse sort of illiterate, uneducated, ignorant hate mongering. 

CYNTHIA: Well, you know, it was interesting to me as I talked with many of the people on the record, identified myself, had my notebook out and was talking to people before the speech. And after the speech I said, “OK. Now you’ve heard your guy. You’ve heard what he says and he says, ‘Well, Americans have got to pull together for the good of everybody.’” And at least the 15 or 20 people standing around me said, “No way. No how." "Barack Obama is unpatriotic," "un-American," "a Muslim," "a Black Panther is now in the White House.” Now, again, maybe this is the heat of the moment, but it reminded me that this is still pretty much a 50/50 country and a lot of people are not as enthusiastic …

CANDICE: Boy, it wasn’t easy to forget during the campaign. It was terrifying. 

CYNTHIA: I think President-elect Obama has a very small window. Did you see the cartoon of him standing on a train track with a freight train running toward him and it says honeymoon.  It’s just like a tiny half-inch …

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Okpulot Taha
Candice Bergen is quoted, “The “kill Obama” and “he’s an Arab.” I mean, just the worse sort of illiterate, uneducated, ignorant hate mongering.” Be careful, racism cuts in all directions. As always, I have a story to tell. Early this year I elected to test a number of websites for bias and bigotry. I did not plan to test for racism. Being an English professor, I am well trained at language usage and having a degree in Earth Science, I am well trained in good Scientific Method. I will briefly recount experiences at two websites. One is Black Star News and the other is The Daily Voice freshly created by Keith Boykin, of whom most know. For each website, my first article was an honest advisory I am visiting to test for bias and bigotry. All my written articles were deliberately well written, professional and firm but fair. Some were straight forth political commentary, some were subtle tests of cultural mores. At Black Star News, I abandoned testing after several days. If not a black person or perceived to not be black, Black Star News proves to be very hostile, highly racist and even threatening, both on the part of the editors of this website and on the part of their participants. I decided risks are too high to continue participation; this Black Star News scares me. I am being sincere. Keith Boykin’s site was a much better experience at first. I even enjoyed helping Keith and Malcolm straighten out some programming problems they were experiencing, I even provided programming which cured a crash of their site taking them offline for a full day. My private dialogs with Keith and Malcolm reveal both men are professionals and simply nice men. Being brief, over a course of about two months, at Boykin’s site, responses to my professionally written critiques of Obama became increasingly angry. I mixed in some questioning of cultural mores, such as the AIDS epidemic amongst Black America and the 70% rate of single mothers. During early month two, responses became openly hostile. Nearing month three, almost all responses ranged from very vile racial slurs to overt threats of physical violence, including participants searching out and providing what participants believed to be my true name and our family home address. Providing quotes of unpleasant remarks would serve no good purpose. Bottom line is my personal experience is, significantly more racial slurs, threats of violence and other inappropriate commentary, significantly more came out of Black America than White America. This type of activity on the part of Black America took place on a daily basis. I need to qualify in fairness. Blogs are known for hostile participants. Blogs are known for attracting the fringe. Much of this could be and I believe this is blogs present a much higher percentage of people who are openly hostile. Other words, blogs are skewed to hostility. Nonetheless, my discovery of 85% to 90% of participants at specific websites being highly hostile is well beyond any skew present; this is a percentage so high to include and exceed the fringe people. Racism cuts in all directions. Does not matter the skin color, all cultural groups display a degree of racism, some more than others. Black, white, red, brown, yellow, makes no difference. Racism will be found. This focus on bad remarks made by the few at McCain events or Palin events, is a display of bias and in some cases, bigotry. The same type of remarks are coming out of all camps, again, regardless of skin color and regardless of political party leaning. For America to fault only McCain and Palin, in my personal opinion, borders on racism. This is a “political” racism with overtones of skin color racism. This specific election year, I can, in good conscious, declare our American mainstream media displays bias, displays bigotry and in some cases, our American mainstream media displays racism. I will be quick to write the same about our American peoples, verbatim. I am more offended by those who blame only one camp, blame only one segment of our society, than I am offended by the racism and hatred directed at me during this election year. As a red skinned woman, I know how to and can deal with our various bigotries ranging from sexism to racism. Contrasting, I will not deal with people who refuse to acknowledge reality; I am simply not interested in those people. Racism cuts in all directions. This is reality. Okpulot Taha Choctaw Nation
By Okpulot Taha on 11/13/2008 7:50 pm
Marjorie C.
Okpulot Taha: Racism cuts in all directions. This is reality. I’ve been saying the exact same thing ever since I saw the shocking video of Rev. Wright. Before that exposure, I was quite naïve to the racism that exists in this country — black to white. Can’t say too much ‘cause I’ll have Whoopi jumping all over me again. Glad you brought up the subject, though.
By Marjorie C. on 11/14/2008 6:52 am
Cynthia Ceilan
Racism absolutely does exist in every ethnic group. And phrases like “lily white” are every bit as disturbing as “black as night.” We’ve been conditioned in recent years to react strongly to the second, but I find them both equally cringe-worthy. I lived in the South for several years some time ago, and news reports of “reverse discrimination” (e.g., when a white person filed an EEOC complaint because a purportedly less-qualified black person got a promotion) always struck me as absurd. Isn’t tolerance the “reverse” of discrimination?
By Cynthia Ceilan on 11/14/2008 10:58 am
Star Lawrence
Forget Whoopi—she is glad to make money of those of us who come here to mix it up. And don’t forget, I get her money when the spoils are redistributed to the poor—like that will happen.
By Star Lawrence on 11/14/2008 11:04 am
OMGIAMGOING NUTS
Okpulot (lovely name by the way) Racism…95% of blacks voted for obama. Is that being racist? “You betcha!” One can’t fault one race or another now can we? It’s just like whoopi repeated and repeated on the View the “N” word over and over. I lost ‘all’ respect for her at that point. She actually felt it was “ok” for her kind (black) to say it and it was “ok” - I on the other hand was taught that the “N” word was a very dirty word REGARDLESS of who said it. Anyway…I’m a realist and realize that racism, in my opinion has become increasingly stronger since this election. I’ve been called racist and I’m not. The staff her a wOw have been clearly supporting obama all along and ‘any’ dirt they can find on the McCain/Palin campaign is just the kind of thing they cling to. It’s very clear.
By OMGIAMGOING NUTS on 11/14/2008 10:46 am
Frannie Em
Okpulot Taha Great article. Yes, racism does cut both ways. It is sad but true. A few months back Maizie left a wonderful post dissecting racism. I can’t remember exactly where, but it was very honest and revealing. Racism is a sad situation because no one wins from it. If certain individuals, are denied opportunity because of racism, the whole society suffers. As we all know, the more a society can nurture the skills and qualities of all of it’s people, the greater society it will be. Better cities, better results from education, prosperity rises with the awareness of the collective whole.
By Frannie Em on 11/16/2008 1:16 am
Deni G
Okpulot Taha poorly written and yet …so very offensive.
By Deni G on 11/18/2008 10:16 am
kermie b
Here’s a link to some great news, via a terrific organization, Codepink. You folks may have heard about this: http://www.nytimes-se.com/# I think this takes precedence over anything politicians can sling at each other.
By kermie b on 11/13/2008 9:35 pm
Patty E
I got so excited about the great news, that in my disbelief, I looked a second and third time, to verify the date—-just to make sure!!!! VERY good news!
By Patty E on 11/13/2008 10:32 pm
Emcye Edwards
Candace, having been vilified and attacked during another, also absurdist, political campaign, knows all sides of bias.
By Emcye Edwards on 11/13/2008 11:49 pm
mary lou s
kermie, i was almost taken in, but then i saw the date on the edition and understood the news reports were hopes, not reports. as for bigotry, my relatives gave me a dose of it a week ago at what will serve for thanksgiving for me this year. my brother (we are all very white) asked if “you are ready for the back of the bus?” my cousin just said that she didn’t want to be like the pissy democrats questioning the results of the election. all i could say was that seating on the bus is determined by the order the passengers got on the bus. they are all religious people, but that doesn’t explain the comments. i really do have hope that obama can bring most of us together for the job of fixing this mess our country is in.
By mary lou s on 11/13/2008 11:54 pm
Frannie Em
Mary Lou What can you do, some people are going to continue to believe in all the “old thinking” that was born out of fear. People can only be brought together if they want to. I think consistent and responsible behavior on PE Obama’s part will slowly change the tide for some of the old diehards, but others will never let go of their fear.
By Frannie Em on 11/16/2008 4:37 pm
Emcye Edwards
The real secret of magic is that the world is made of words,” said the sage Terence McKenna. “And that if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish.”
By Emcye Edwards on 11/13/2008 11:58 pm
DeBúrca obj
Well that is a great example of positive visualization!
By DeBúrca obj on 11/14/2008 8:01 am
J. Stephens
Dear citizens of the United States of America, I am indeed with Liz here and will add this: until each and every single one of you understands that the MESS our country is in has nothing to do with who we put into the white house to “save us”; we are never going to get anywhere! The mess we are in can and will ONLY be cleaned up by the people who got us into it in the first place: ourselves. Until EVERY single individual in this country starts reaching out to other people, starts SAVING money and paying off their debt, you could elect a chair to be President - and I hope you will all agree on the color - it isn’t going to change things. Watch the documentary IOU for starters. People - we are over 70 trillion dollars in debt as a country! This is not going to change in four years. But what can easily change in four years in every household in this country is how each of us buckles down and addresses our own individual responsibilities and liabilities in making this country great again. So now go fight amongst yourselves on that one! I’m sure you have plenty to say. Debt is not a color or a party or anything other than what it is….we collectively EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US have spent more than we make. And therefore my friends we are in debt and need to get out of it as quickly as we can. I’ll be the first to tell you that hope is great. We need hope, I suppose. What we need more than anything is discipline! And I didn’t hear that as a campaign rhetoric. We need to get back to the basics this great country was founded on and stop looking so pathetically like victims to the leader of this country to “save” us. WE ARE THE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTRY!
By J. Stephens on 11/13/2008 9:51 pm