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Conversation | 04/09/2008 12:00 am

What Happens to Us After We Die?

Ghost on a Roman Street: July 2007
© Joan Juliet Buck

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JONI: So, William Buckley died and at the memorial his son Christopher told how his father was once asked what would be the right epitaph for him when he died. And — I believe his answer came from the Book of Job, or I read that it was — he said: “I know that my Redeemer liveth,” which is the perfect lead-in to: What do you think happens after we die?

LILY: Has anyone ever exhumed a human body, or are you just going beyond the corpus?

SHEILA: Do you mean it’s rotting, or it’s spiritual?

JONI: Well both. We can talk about exhuming a human body.

LILY: Well, if you want to.

JONI: Well, Lily, you just said that you did …

LILY: I did. I’m saying I have an inordinate interest in anatomy and physiological processes and things. So I know what happens to us physically. We deteriorate eventually. But I was raised Fundamentalist Baptist. What were you raised, Julia?

JULIA: Presbyterian. I just went to the Presbyterian church this morning like a good little Catholic.

LILY: You all may be more spiritual than I am.

SHEILA: I’m not at all. I was raised as a Communist Atheist by my parents.

JULIA: Well, I think being raised Baptist has made most of my Baptist friends become Communist Atheists.

LILY: Well maybe that’s kind of what I was leading to.

JONI: So, was there no religion or any kind of faith in your childhoods that led you to believe we might live on after this world?

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Ms. Dee
I think Hindus re-incarnate, and all good Muslims go to Paradise.
By Ms. Dee on 04/11/2008 11:58 am
marlena spellissy
Nothing,,, happens to you. Why do we expect that there is something more, we always want, that;s our mind set. So I suggesr that you make the best of your time here, by righting wrongs and speak out to the injustices that are being done around the world. Why, don’t you let your voices be heard loud and clear, go protest against this injust war. I don’t see any of you going out and protesting against anything where it counts. Go send a airplane full of water to Dafur to the Palestinians to anybody who needs it. Do things that when it is time to go, you can say I did my best. I walked for the good of man kind.
By marlena spellissy on 04/09/2008 1:25 pm
John Lynch
god gets a lot of praise for good things but takes o responsibility for the terrible things that happen. If god was the creator, did he not create satan. I agree with what you say Marlena.
By John Lynch on 04/09/2008 1:29 pm
Kay Sara
John, God created Lucifer and gave him his own free will to choose good or evil.
By Kay Sara on 04/14/2008 12:23 pm
doro willow
I just learned about your site while listening to Charlie Rose and 4 of you and have spent the last 25 minutes enjoying the site. I think this is a very good idea and now hope i won’t spend/use too much time in this newfound joy. BTW, I’m looking forward to my life after this life, being able to be with in some unknown way others who have gone before, especially my mother and aunts whom I’m now old enough to ask them questions i wish i had asked before they died.
By doro willow on 04/09/2008 1:31 pm
eastman gal
I just saw you gals on Charlie Rose today and I was delighted with your site. How do I get to put in my two cents?
By eastman gal on 04/09/2008 1:32 pm
John Lynch
I have to leave but I must say I reallt enjoy this website. There are not a lot of them “out there” with good conversation. I thank you for starting it.
By John Lynch on 04/09/2008 1:34 pm
beatriz m
I’m a lapsed Catholic and do think people cling to religion (any religion) to feel they have a kind of a back up in this complicated sometimes cruel world. My answer is I think we just cease to be period.
By beatriz m on 04/09/2008 1:35 pm
leaser
as thought provoking as it is to discuss this topic I think that if more people enjoyed ‘today’ and lived for ‘today’ fewer people would be afraid of ‘tomorrow’ whatever it may hold. When we die, we do just that, die. If something happens to us spiritually we’ll know what that is at that time because it will then be the present. How can we possibly think to know what the future holds just because ‘humans’ wrote it in one book or another. You can be ‘spritual’, ‘religious’, ‘faithful’, or all of the above but I think we need to worry about today before we concern ourselves with tomorrow and what will happen to us.
By leaser on 04/09/2008 1:35 pm
GEORGE WU, A.I.A.
This is like a question to ask, ” what is your religion?” Well, I never have a religion all my life. Recently I ALMOST believed in a living GOD- DALAI LAMA. My friend from high school asked me, she said,” How can you believe in a human being as GOD?” I said to myself, “Well, that religion belived in what I also believed in— not killing. That could not be bad!” I said ALMOST, not yet committed. It turned out to be better for me. My esteem of Dalai Lama dropped from 100% down to nothing recently since the Tibet incident. I happened to believe China is one nation, cannot be divided, because I am a Chinese- American who has gone through a lot since the Japanese invasion…..Now I observed that Dalai Lama might look like me, but he does not want anything to do with China. To me, he is a hypocrite! All those non- violence talks! He supposed to be a “GOD!” “REBORN!” 70 years ago; but to me he is not any better than me who was born NOTHING 71 years ago! When I die, I do not give a damn where I will be. All I know is that I have had a good life in this world. I certainly do not want to go, now, where Dalai Lama might be going to! That is for sure!——dancewu(dot)net
By GEORGE WU, A.I.A. on 04/09/2008 1:35 pm
GEORGE WU, A.I.A.
Reading through the pages, all of a sudden, I asked myself, “why ALL the religious figures are male?????????????Not a single woman?????????????????????????????????????????” dancewu(dot)net —-P.S. I am a male! So I can be a candidate more than the females ? There are injustice in this life ; they want to make sure that you go to HIS place after your death too?!
By GEORGE WU, A.I.A. on 04/10/2008 12:39 am
Sue S
What happens to us after we die? Those of Faith believe in life after death in one form or another. Those without faith perhaps feel nothing happens - from dust back to dust again. I am somewhere in between. At age 60, I have witnessed the passing of most of my elder relatives. Most died due to what we would call ‘problems’ of old age. I was witness to physical bodies wearing out. Plain and simple. But I do know one thing, many times in my life, when everything, I mean everything was just plain wrong, some force gave me the will to get up and start another new day in spite of it all. There is a human spirit in us all. There is a greater force in the universe. As for spirits after death here’s something that happens to me: I tend to misplace things a lot, especially tools. But it seems that just when I get really frustrated with my inability to find something, some spirit, some force actually sets me off in the right direction to where that misplaced item sits. This phenomenon started to occur only after my own father died suddenly at the age of 63. I took ‘his place’ and did all the repairs, lawn mowing and stuff like that for my widowed mother. Since I started using ‘his’ tools I figure it must be him. Sensing when I am getting fed up with ‘his house’ and what should be ‘his stuff’ to take care of, resenting that I was left to do ‘his work’ around the house, he gently points me to what I need. I really believe it his him pointing me off in the right direction. Why, because this only happens when I am really frustrated and tired and to the point of tears and about to have a real emotional meltdown. So as for the after life, all I have to say is “Thanks Dad! for helping me to find the tools to do the work you left behind! ;-) Oh and the first spring after he died, I was looking out the window into the garden, lo and behold a Forsythia bush that he planted that had never blossomed was in full bloom. And, I caught a glimpse of yes, you guessed, dear Old Dad passing by that bush. I know his spirit is out there, wherever out there is.
By Sue S on 04/09/2008 1:37 pm
U R
I believe that our actions (good or bad) in this life determine our next incarnation. So the goal in this life is not to accumulate Karma, but to burn it by leading a good life. When we have exhausted all our Karma, we will then reach a stage of enlightenment (which is common to most religions). Heaven & Hell does exist, but I believe it is a state of mind in this incarnation. I believe that we are in constant control of our lives - based on actions and attachments. This makes alot of sense to me, because it also tells me that there is a Universal legal system - no action good or bad goes without consequences. This is the meaning of Karma - law of cause & effect - eat too much, you get fat! - smoke and you can lung cancer, etc.
By U R on 04/09/2008 1:41 pm
Lady Gator
My brother is a Catholic Priest — we were talking about this same topic several months ago. I told him that if there was indeed a “Heaven” that I first wanted to go to the “Rainbow Bridge” to collect my darling doggie, Chloe. After that I wanted to round up all my departed family and friends. And, if I believe in an afterlife than I wanted to come back and do it all over again!!!! My brother thought it sounded like a great idea.
By Lady Gator on 04/09/2008 1:51 pm
Giving Heart
Ginny, While your brother may personally think it sounds like a great idea, it certainly isn’t in line with the teachings of the 2,000 year old Catholic Church.
By Giving Heart on 04/09/2008 2:22 pm