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Conversation | 06/02/2008 11:16 am

Good Luck, Class of 2008! With 1930s-Style Economic Turmoil PLUS Terrorism, Possible Nuclear Annihilation, You'll Need It

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Editor’s Note: Featuring Kathleen Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, a professor of communications and the former dean of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania.

LESLEY: I’ve been going to these college commencements for years and this year the kids struck me as more wholesome than I’ve seen in some time. I didn’t count a single piercing. Can you believe that? Not one. A couple of tattoos. They dress more conservatively. I was told at both schools that there had not been one instance of political activism in the four years of this graduating class. So what do we think about the new generation coming up? And if you had spoken, what would you be telling them in these times?

LIZ: Wow.

LESLEY: Yeah.

Click here for commencement speech highlights of 2008 from Barack Obama to Will Shortz.

LIZ: Because they’re facing all the perils that the graduation classes faced back in the ’30s when the Great Depression fell on us. But they’re facing, also, the end of that feeling of America’s safety and its power. And they’re facing terrorism, which nobody had ever heard of, really, or they hadn’t defined it. And on top of that they’re facing possible nuclear annihilation. Plus if they had jobs in finance, banking – they’ve all disappeared.

LESLEY: Don’t leave out the bad economy.

LIZ: That’s what I mean. And manufacturing is in the doldrums. So I really feel for them, but I agree. I was at Bryn Mawr last month, and I’ve never seen such fabulous kids.

LESLEY: Let me tell you one thing that happened at Loyola. My eyes watered, I teared up. They had four kids in the class — a huge class – in ROTC. They were in the audience, in their military uniforms. Everyone else was robed. A general came out on stage after everyone else had gotten their diplomas and he asked the four kids to stand up. And the rest of the class – I couldn’t believe it – gave them a standing ovation.

CANDICE: Wow.

LESLEY: It was something.

LIZ: Well, they’re very together. You know, they sort of aren’t apprehensive. Maybe they’re just putting on a good front. Or their elders are apprehensive.

LESLEY: Kathleen, you’re on a college campus.

KATHLEEN: I am.

LESLEY: What changes are you seeing, in the last couple of years, as these young kids are coming up?

KATHLEEN: The most exciting thing happening on campuses in the past 12 to 18 months has been the energized electorate that’s emerging. The phenomenon that we’ve seen during the primaries and caucuses — in which the young are going out to participate — potentially means that the speech to a graduate should say, "If your generation will just vote at the same percent as my generation, and I’m a very elderly woman, you could change this political dialogue because candidates would start addressing your concerns and start telling us the truth about the actual trade-offs; start forcing the country to pay for things that it’s spending on now and not transferring to your generation and your children’s generation. And part of the reason we haven’t done that, college graduates, is even though we have the most educated electorate we’ve ever had, your generation has consistently under-voted compared to other, older generations. And this may be the year this starts to turn around. If you’ll just do that and keep this high level of engagement that we’re seeing in the primaries, we could change the issue agenda, and issues that this generation cares about potentially will be addressed more seriously by all the political candidates."

And that’s very exciting. I mean, this is a generation that, traditionally, is ignored by politicians because it doesn’t vote in a high enough proportion to be worth campaigning to. This year it’s worth campaigning to, which means its going to have a stake in governance that is different. And a stake in a different issue agenda might be something that we all benefit from.

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Linda Clark
Yesterday, I attended the high school graduation of a young lady that we were blessed to care for in 1996. She was in Kindergarten that year and her younger sister had not yet begun school. Their mother was the US Army serving in Bosnia. Although these little girls were young (6yrs & 4 yrs), they knew what it meant to be in danger and under fire because of the extreme media coverage. It was unavoidable as it is now with the war in Iraq. I’ve know these girls since birth and their mother since she was 10 years old. In visiting with them over the years, she and her sister convey through their daily awareness that they grew up in a time of continuous military conflict. They also recognize that their mother’s livelyhood was made possible because of these conflicts. So in-turn, they are conflicted. They have no desire to protest at the state of current affairs, but to exceed at building a life with as little conflict as possible; sharing their experiences along the way. They don’t “act out” or “rebel”, as they say “they have a healthy appetite for being under the radar”. The eldest girl will begin college in just a few short weeks, choosing to not wait for the fall semester. She is anxious and exhillarated by the next phase in her life. Their mother is schedule to return to Iraq for a second tour in the Fall. Their concern for their mother’s safety is delicately understated. They appreciate that life does and must go on.
By Linda Clark on 06/02/2008 1:33 pm
Frank Peterson
We’ve all here lived through the Cold War I would think and with that the possibility of nuclear annihilation hanging over our lives but we got on, made lives for ourselves, had children, went to work, supported others or ourselves and lived through that whole mess . We contributed to society, made better people of ourselves and educated ourselves in the best ways we knew how. Some attended university and even went on to higher degrees, others raised families and we all were proud of our accomplishments and ourselves. We’ve lived through presidential assassinations and attempts, and the deaths of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy. We’ve lived through wars, tyrants and the 60’s and seventies, and sex, drugs and rocknroll— the 80’s and AIDS and the bilious 90’s and the dotcom disasters and a lot of us are boomers. We’ve lived through hurricanes, earthquakes and Katrina and the destruction of that Petrachran sonnet that was New Orleans and other natural disasters. Hell, we even survived George Bush and Darth Vader. And we’ve survived the whole shebang and still live productive lives. So what’s new for the kids of 2008? Maybe a depression. maybe not; maybe a nuclear conflagration, probably not—but I’m not betting on it yet. Mainly because I’m not a betting man unless it’s poker and then it’s a sure thing :-). So they’ will do as we have done and face global warming and maybe help to solve that major wingding of a disaster to our home, this not-so-big blue marble floating in the wildness of space. They will have as good a life I hope as we have had and possibly as bad a life as too many of us have had at time. They’ll have Iraq and all that entails and that’s not easily solved. So I wish them luck and happiness. May they prosper and be decent humans like we are. So—they’ll live like we did, survive every thing we did and live for the most part good lives, just like we do and have. What more can we give them but hope and we’ve had that too.
By Frank Peterson on 06/02/2008 1:34 pm
Linda Clark
Well said Frank ……. You’re awsome!
By Linda Clark on 06/02/2008 1:42 pm
Frank Peterson
Thankk you very much. Linda, I’ve read your writing and like it very much—peace huh? :-)
By Frank Peterson on 06/02/2008 4:50 pm
Frannie Em
Frank Right on! Right on! The Dude abides, - I take comfort in that. You are right. If we could face it, they can face it. It will be the making of them. It seems that these days there is more craziness, no there is just a 24 hour news cycle that won’t give it a rest. The age of information has everyone so over informed they are afraid to do anything. The choice is to live in fear or live free of fear. Fear and love cannot occupy the same place. So how much of a choice is that?
By Frannie Em on 06/02/2008 2:54 pm
Frank Peterson
The Dude does abide—this morning someone said to me it’s Monday—I thought a secand said: I’m not going to participate in Monday this week, I’m going to have a mellow non-Monday lol And so it goes. Thank my dear—you’re correct of course: fear and love cannot accupy the same place—so do what I did—I haven’ t watched TV news for 5 years. Instead I read 5 newspapers on line. Works well for me and by reading non-US papers I get a lot more info aboyt Bushco than i get here. Keep the faith :-)
By Frank Peterson on 06/02/2008 4:13 pm
Frank Peterson
Shoot—sorry about the typos—my fingers must be dozing lol
By Frank Peterson on 06/02/2008 4:51 pm
T S
Beautifully stated as usual, Frank. I think this generation might be dealing with some additional things. For one thing, the sketchy leadership and increasing lack role models to emulate. The pervasive lack of integrity. The scandals - the Catholic Church, steroid abuse, blatant lies put forth as “misspeaking,” a pre-emptive & questionably legal war that some former role models “sold” with spin, faulty elections, etc. The rampant over medication of our kids in this society (Ritalin, Prozac, etc). The culture of narcissism that is quietly growing. And these are just a few. I’m not intimating that some of this hasn’t been there throughout history , it just seems that the canvas these young men and women have to paint their lives on is muddied in addition to the challenges they face. I’m not sure if this is just my perception. What are your thoughts? Ultimately, I have faith and confidence that they will create lives in spite of it. Sometimes I think it’s the disintegration of an old paradigm that no longer works. I have four sons (9yrs to 19). I am always seeking perspectives on this as I try to raise them with values and to be equipped to have balanced happy lives in very changing times.
By T S on 06/02/2008 3:27 pm
Frank Peterson
Ta very much T: Don’t get me started on that damned illegal war. I’ve thought the Bush should have been impeached for that a long time now. Corruption in Congress has gone on so long that any hope of changing it is nigh on impossible .I really dislike the rampant medicating of kids with a passion—I think many are given these meds because their parents don’t know how to be parents. It’s damaging to the child and what of the child’s genetic structure. Too any other things are affecting all of our genes especially plastics. I no longer drink from Nalgeen bottles as they have a coating on the inside that affects our genes. Proven. Fact. As for narcissism, the 60’s and 70”s were as narcissistic as you can get. Believe me I was there. And that hasn’t changed one bit with the rampant expansion of conglomerates and corporate greed. Steroids—my god I read recently that coaches are giving HGH to kids in Middle school and in High school. This is so wrong that for once I’m nearly at a loss for how I feel about this abomination in our midst. Doctors and coaches and yes some parents if caught should serve a long prison sentence. As you know I see nothing wrong with weed but this current usage of steroids goes way beyond this. The canvas is muddied—well put, in fact your writing is superb. Allow me to compliment you. You’re a natural writer. T—btw no weaseling for your name but calling someone T is weird, sort of like verbing as Calvin used to say in the comic strip. lol Sorry for that digression . They, these young ones, today will find their way—I have no doubt of this. If you are raising you kids with your values then you have little to worry about—we raised our daughter like that and she has turned out beautifully. Yes I too sometimes think the old paradigm doesn’t work either, but one has to have faith that it will, that the young ones today will see things whole—I think they will. Indeed. We all seek perspective for our kids in these changing times—reminds me of the Dylan song: The Times They Are a-Changing—hell they still are and they really never stopped. Did they? Will continue to think about it in between driving my thumping neighbor crazy when I play Puccini lol He wakes me at 2 every AM every bloomin’ morning—so I figured he should get some culture.
By Frank Peterson on 06/02/2008 4:48 pm
Frannie Em
TS I know how you feel. I have two sons, 26 and 15. What a job. With a 19 year old under your wing I am sure you know the most of this. We cannot change all of the world, we can work to stay sane in ours, and create a secure and strong environment. My mom had 6 children then I joined - kind of adopted them and they returned the favor, and then like 12 foster kids joined in. She always kept it real. Maintained altitude. Had principles and stood on them. Never talked down to any child. Always treated them with respect - (but oh, she had radar and could figure out when you were fudging) and met them with the recognition that we were 100% whole. Most important thing she taught me is that I am the one that has made the choices in my life. If I don’t like the results, I have the power to change them. So for me, I just try to keep it real, provide them with what they NEED (not always want) to develop into their own realness. And when age appropriate, give them choice and help them understand what that means.
By Frannie Em on 06/02/2008 11:54 pm
T S
Frank and Frannie, Thank you so much for your comments and insights. You are both beautiful souls and I appreciate that you share your wisdom on this and other topics. Again, I express my gratitude for this site and it’s community. It was good to hear from both of you that despite the negatives/challenges, you see “a way” for these kids to live whole. And Frannie, your Mom sounds wonderful. My kids are familiar with the “radar.” They still marvel at that “knowing place” in Moms that is intuitive. Recently, I overheard my youngest when I was out of view tell a sibling, “Don’t do it because Mom will know…she always knows.” It made me laugh. Frank- I will share a funny story about my online “name.” I have rarely posted on a site before this one. Once in a blue moon, I would comment on an especially moving news story. So I discovered this website and was pretty captivated immediately. For the first time, I had this nudge to be “a part.” Well, having little online experience in this way, no idea who traffics the site overall, and a very unusual and telltale first name , I said hmmm, I guess I need a “psuedo-name” for these purposes. I’m always lecturing my kids on internet safety, the magnitude of where their words go online, etc. So I was eager to post and read on wowowow and on this particular day I was at a creative low so I had no cool, catchy name coming to mind . I was noting the draw to the site nudging me to have the courage to post was very different for me and I was feeling a little sassy within myself to override the former things that had held me back. So what came to me was “totally sassy” as that was what I was feeling that day. Hence the “T.S.” It was also a reminder for me to keep with it. If the next day I woke up and went back into a lack of courage to write , I was hoping it would “remind’ me of the previous days triumph to say “what the heck…it’s o.k.” Now at this point I feel the initials are alien to me. Not representing where I am now. This amazing community of writers and thinkers has bolstered my courage and I have frequently thought about changing the name but then figured, “but no one will recognize me!” I didn’t want to start splitting off into online “alters” :). So I have kept it as T.S. I know it doesn’t roll off the tongue or rather the keyboard easily in these exchanges. Just not sure how to go about a switch. :) Well, I’ll close know and again thank you both for your input on the question and my post. You are stellar…
By T S on 06/03/2008 6:51 am
mary lou s
ts, change it to “totally sassy,” and we’ll know who you are. i was reluctant to be googled and therefore did not give my last name. and good luck raising the next generation!
By mary lou s on 06/03/2008 8:43 am
T S
don’t laugh…how do I change it? :) Not sure of how to do that!
By T S on 06/04/2008 9:43 am
Frank Peterson
sassy lady- that was marvelous—you’re stellar in my eyes and your kids sound great! Don’t change your name, please I like sassy ladies—they’re always very special human beings and wonderful to know. As you are. Keep the faith and know you have many friends here and you may count me amongst that number. It’s a pleasure to know you . From the heart—thank you. Totally Sassy indeed —hooyah! :-)
By Frank Peterson on 06/03/2008 8:37 pm
T S
Tight hug sent your way…prepare to receive it in 30 secs from reading. :)
By T S on 06/04/2008 9:44 am