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Conversation | 06/02/2008 11:16 am

Good Luck, Class of 2008! With 1930s-Style Economic Turmoil PLUS Terrorism, Possible Nuclear Annihilation, You'll Need It

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Editor’s Note: Featuring Kathleen Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, a professor of communications and the former dean of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania.

LESLEY: I’ve been going to these college commencements for years and this year the kids struck me as more wholesome than I’ve seen in some time. I didn’t count a single piercing. Can you believe that? Not one. A couple of tattoos. They dress more conservatively. I was told at both schools that there had not been one instance of political activism in the four years of this graduating class. So what do we think about the new generation coming up? And if you had spoken, what would you be telling them in these times?

LIZ: Wow.

LESLEY: Yeah.

Click here for commencement speech highlights of 2008 from Barack Obama to Will Shortz.

LIZ: Because they’re facing all the perils that the graduation classes faced back in the ’30s when the Great Depression fell on us. But they’re facing, also, the end of that feeling of America’s safety and its power. And they’re facing terrorism, which nobody had ever heard of, really, or they hadn’t defined it. And on top of that they’re facing possible nuclear annihilation. Plus if they had jobs in finance, banking – they’ve all disappeared.

LESLEY: Don’t leave out the bad economy.

LIZ: That’s what I mean. And manufacturing is in the doldrums. So I really feel for them, but I agree. I was at Bryn Mawr last month, and I’ve never seen such fabulous kids.

LESLEY: Let me tell you one thing that happened at Loyola. My eyes watered, I teared up. They had four kids in the class — a huge class – in ROTC. They were in the audience, in their military uniforms. Everyone else was robed. A general came out on stage after everyone else had gotten their diplomas and he asked the four kids to stand up. And the rest of the class – I couldn’t believe it – gave them a standing ovation.

CANDICE: Wow.

LESLEY: It was something.

LIZ: Well, they’re very together. You know, they sort of aren’t apprehensive. Maybe they’re just putting on a good front. Or their elders are apprehensive.

LESLEY: Kathleen, you’re on a college campus.

KATHLEEN: I am.

LESLEY: What changes are you seeing, in the last couple of years, as these young kids are coming up?

KATHLEEN: The most exciting thing happening on campuses in the past 12 to 18 months has been the energized electorate that’s emerging. The phenomenon that we’ve seen during the primaries and caucuses — in which the young are going out to participate — potentially means that the speech to a graduate should say, "If your generation will just vote at the same percent as my generation, and I’m a very elderly woman, you could change this political dialogue because candidates would start addressing your concerns and start telling us the truth about the actual trade-offs; start forcing the country to pay for things that it’s spending on now and not transferring to your generation and your children’s generation. And part of the reason we haven’t done that, college graduates, is even though we have the most educated electorate we’ve ever had, your generation has consistently under-voted compared to other, older generations. And this may be the year this starts to turn around. If you’ll just do that and keep this high level of engagement that we’re seeing in the primaries, we could change the issue agenda, and issues that this generation cares about potentially will be addressed more seriously by all the political candidates."

And that’s very exciting. I mean, this is a generation that, traditionally, is ignored by politicians because it doesn’t vote in a high enough proportion to be worth campaigning to. This year it’s worth campaigning to, which means its going to have a stake in governance that is different. And a stake in a different issue agenda might be something that we all benefit from.

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Gwendolyn Barry
Um, so this is the observation; that ‘wholesome’ [an adjective describing conductive to or suggestive of good health, physical well being and moral well being] are those graduating young people who have no piercings, abstain from tatoo-ing, are politically ambivalent in public and applaud the military presence in high schools? I am woman who comes from a ‘privileged’ family background in which community service was expected and a true gratitude instilled in it. On my fifteenth birthday my Mom gave me a still cherished present; a little Royal Dalton black sheep. The note said, “Darling, keep it close, it distinguishes you from the rest of the sheep.” So, speaking as one of the rebellious, rule breaking, upstart, pierced (ok, it’s only the ears - once on each), UNwholesome grads’ from many long moon’s ago, I’m really shocked that it came to Frank to mention the greatest threat our children face today: the murder of Nature and the destruction of our Home (only 5 years more and we are past the point of reversal of global warming). Lesley, I disagree, there are so many young grads engaged in public discontent! That are calling for a halt of this ‘process’ … this ‘process’ is how we arrived at the edge of destruction. I’m not advocating destruction of the ‘process’, a return to honesty and ethics would be a good start. I really miss Mom and her ‘old broad’s club’. They were the ladies who didn’t play bridge. They laughed a great deal as they enjoyed cocktail hour and reminded me of joining Dorothy Parker and Lillian Hellman for drinks. They asked me and my friends what we thought and where we were headed. They gave us sometimes hard knocks stories and accused us of a lack of vision through inexperience, and they didn’t really approve of homogenized lifestyles either…the path less taken was the adventure. And I enjoy this site because I sense that kind of presence on it. No disrespect (gawd, I hope no one gives me grief over ‘broad’…because it’s a respectfully used adjective) intended, just some dissent. Hey, Whoopi, where are u? But I am wondering, what are the property taxes in Stepford these days? gee.
By Gwendolyn Barry on 06/02/2008 2:46 pm
Liza D 08 .... beta
My daughter Sam graduated high school this year. A year late. Her father passed away in January of 07. Sam went back to the high school this last fall and took her classes she needed to graduate. She was over 18 when she did this. I can’t imagine being over 18 and in high school. SHE DID IT. And because of her good grades and hard work was given the Perseverance Scholarship. She will attend ISU in the fall. Her auntie is paying for her college and I am sure that Sam will continue being a woman that respects herself, others and hard work. I can’t wait to share her college graduation story with you guys. Congratulations Samantha Jo! I was amazed at what some parents thought was appropriate dress at the awards ceremony. My daughter had on a dress past her knees and her shoulders and back were covered. Some of the others were almost hoochie mamma material. Award winners in stripper outfits … is that okay? A question for an other time I guess.
By Liza D 08 .... beta on 06/02/2008 4:22 pm
Frank Peterson
Liza-you have one great daughter, really one very special young woman. Congratulations Samantha Jo—you did well, young lady, really very well indeed. Liza: you have to be proud as all get out. Congratulations to you too. You deserve it, darned if you don’t. :-)
By Frank Peterson on 06/02/2008 4:56 pm
Liza D 08 .... beta
Thank you Frank. It ain’t no secret … my life and who I am and what I am … many times I am lost on this site as I am in life … It would seem my daughter is much stronger and more together than I will ever be. I do, I do take credit for some of it …. and it feels good to do that. I also give credit to her father a man that worked two jobs to pay the rent in neighborhood that was beyond our means. He worked every single day of his life to give her what she needed to be who she is today. And I ain’t talkin’ about not fancy ipods and 80 dollar jeans … it was the lesson of what hard work and stickin’ with it can do for you! Bryan is proud of his daughter and sits smiling sayin’ “look what we did together” It feel goods all the way around!
By Liza D 08 .... beta on 06/02/2008 5:57 pm
Frank Peterson
Wow—good man that man. And frankly I don’t see you lost on this site at all—you hang in yhere Liza—you’re doing just fine, really fine :-) and so is your lovely daughter. You have a friend in me here, OK? Good . have a lovely evening :-)
By Frank Peterson on 06/02/2008 6:47 pm
Frannie Em
Liza, I always like read what you say and see how you are feeling when you post. You made the wow comments last week which was way cool. your daughter sounds beautiful and I know you are proud of her. Pretty amazing.
By Frannie Em on 06/03/2008 12:15 am
Liza D 08 .... beta
Ms. EM, Sam rocks and will a force to be reckoned with in our future! You got it … proud as can be am I. I actually did make the comment of the week … didn’t I? I keep going back to see if they changed their minds or found me out or to see if it was some sort of dream. Oh, yeah … one last thing … I also go back and read MY posts about a thousand times over … LOL! I LOVE MY NAME IN PRINT! bigger LOL! joy :)
By Liza D 08 .... beta on 06/03/2008 12:38 am
Frannie Em
Liza D You are so funny!!!!! LOL. I wonder how many times everyone goes back and reads. I check to see if anyone has answered, and then when they do, I think, “What did I say?’ Then I have to go back and read. Sometimes I work things out, like if I am worried about my kid in Iraq - what am I saying?!!! I got an email from Kuwait yesterday. He said “Mom - I can taste home.” I love him. I just want him home. There are some people I like to read over as well. Sometimes I just review a few to get the feel again of the thread. Whatever. Okee Dokee.
By Frannie Em on 06/03/2008 1:18 am
T S
When is the anticipated date he will be home? I would like to visualize that moment and put positive intention around his safe return and that first hug for his mama…
By T S on 06/03/2008 7:00 am
Frannie Em
TS - Totally Sassy He will be up at Ft Lewis in WA in 40 minutes from right now. Relief.
By Frannie Em on 06/03/2008 11:28 pm
T S
I am SO happy to hear that!
By T S on 06/04/2008 9:14 am
T S
Lost? Lost on this site? You have made your mark so to speak. And made it well. I totally enjoy reading the “Liza” input any time I am on this site and it’s very clear I’m not alone. Take your rightful or should I say “writeful” place at the table Liza. You belong there and the seat is yours! :)
By T S on 06/03/2008 6:56 am
beverly linens
My concern when I started raising my children in the late fifties was that I wasn’t going to raise my kids to be canon fodder for the likes of Hitler or Stalin, so I taught them to think for themselves. Then I started on the golden rule, do unto others. Respect yourself first and treat others with respect whether they’ve earned it or not. Don’t give up. My daughter says I also said don’t do anything until your ready to accept the consequences. [I don’t remember that one.] They are both in their fifties and their mother is amazed at both their accomplishments. My daughter quit a high paying job in the garment industry and went back to school and is a working artist. My son just bought out his partner in a business and has turned his hobby of collecting old cars and historical artifacts into a passion of putting together exhibits for small museums. I have decided to vote for Obama because the kids are excited about the world their going into. This disillusioned old Republican who wanted to vote for Hillary is giving them the right to go right ahead and do it.
By beverly linens on 06/02/2008 7:10 pm
James the Game
We’ve always had problems in society, and the insatiable 24/7 “news” networks not only exaggerate the negative, but, in some cases, manufacture it. If it’s a slow news day, let’s font “Developing Story” on the top of the screen, with a constant news-crawl running on the bottom of it. The race for ratings and the resultant hype-distortion of what really constitutes news these days versus scare-mongering makes it difficult to determine just how bad things really are. Right now, I do think the economic crisis is very real. It’s been a deep recession in Michigan for five years, because this state lost more manufacturing jobs than any other: about 200,000 by 2004, but it wasn’t until ‘W’ campaigned here in late-summer ‘04 that he seemed to be aware of the problem. The leaders of the Big 3 automakers had scheduled meetings with Mr. Bush to discuss the industry’s critical plight canceled three times (!). Economic forecasters in Michigan were saying three years ago that the recession in this state would expand to the rest of the country sooner than later, and it has. If I were under 30, I would be concerned about the future, but not let the current circumstances totally dim your optimism for the future. I have to ask the other posters on this site: have you seen a lot more people riding motorcycles, bicycles and mopeds lately? They’re selling like hotcakes here, where gas is about $4.30-per-gallon. A friend who bought a new one tells me it gets 110 mpg. Problem is, in Michigan, you can only drive it about seven months a year because of the extreme cold, wind and ice from November to April.
By James the Game on 06/02/2008 8:13 pm
Randa P
I think this generation is amazing. They seem a lot more clear about things than I was at similar (college age). Perhaps they need to be practical and “hands on” because they know that its going to be up to them to do something about this mess.
By Randa P on 06/02/2008 8:35 pm