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Conversation | 06/06/2008 6:26 pm

Liz Smith on Hillary: 'A Lot of Obama's Supporters Would Just Die if He Chose Her'

© AP

Editor’s Note: Sen. Clinton announced this week that she is going to give her support to Sen. Obama and give up the race. What happens to the vice presidency now? Who do you think Obama will choose? Do you think he, in order to unite the party, will choose Hillary as his running mate? These are the questions we posed to Liz, Mary, Judith and Jane.

LIZ: I just had lunch with one of Hillary’s backers, a person who is an aide to Hillary. And she says that she always encouraged her to try and get the vice-presidential slot if she couldn’t win the presidency. But now she feels that Obama probably won’t offer it, because they really don’t want her. They just want her to campaign for him, but they don’t want her to be vice president. Imagine the baggage she would have as the vice president – she and Bill. The vice president doesn’t have very much to do – just serves at the will of the president; presides over the Senate. And, while it’s the second most important job, it’s kind of a nothing job. It’s a strange thing.

MARY: But the current vice president has been very powerful.

JUDITH: You haven’t pointed out that it’s second in line to the presidency.

LIZ: That’s right. That’s the advantage.

JUDITH: I think she should go for a good job. She’s got a bargaining position, and the Supreme Court would be ideal for her. But when Sen. Obama gave his victory speech, it sounded suspiciously like he might offer her something terrible, like being head of H.H.S.[Dept. of Health and Human Services].

LIZ: This person, the one who’s her aide, doesn’t believe she would want to be in the cabinet.

JUDITH: I would think not, especially H.H.S., which is such a difficult position.

LIZ: Well, I think she’d make a dandy secretary of state. I can see her traveling around the world to restore the reputation of this country, at the will of her president. Or, she can remain the senator of New York and bide her time and see what happens. My friend believes that whatever her faults were in this campaign should be blamed on Mark Penn who refused to set up any kind of grassroots thing for her and didn’t use the Internet properly. So Obama took all of that away from them. Most of Hillary’s people now really blame this guy. And for all of her faults in the campaign, she remains a very dedicated and capable and driven kind of person. And we’ve got to remember — 18 million Americans wanted her for president.

Look at Hillary’s enormous support among these older, uneducated women in America, and how marginalized they are by everybody else – like they don’t count. And she really made them count. And I don’t think there’s any way they can vanquish her. I think she’ll come back in one way or another. And Obama’s not ignoring that. He’ll do something, I think. He’ll offer her something – maybe something she really wants.

JUDITH: The things on her list of what she wants were on the domestic side — not on the foreign affairs side. What would be more powerful than the Supreme Court?

LIZ: I don’t know, though. I feel, Judith, it’s too sort of sedentary for her.

JUDITH: Really?

MARY: Don’t you have to have some legal background?

JUDITH: You don’t have to have been a judge, no. You have to be a lawyer, which she is.

LIZ: She’s a good lawyer.

JUDITH: Yes, she’s a lawyer. And if she wants to advance those issues, which were all domestic issues, I would think that that would be the place. And it’s a much better job than being president, much less vice president.

LIZ: Well what do you think, Mary?

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Mugsy Peabody
Liza, Mo also suggested Amy Goodman’s new book, which I think is probably going to be one of the selections for Mugsy Peabody’s Universal Church (and Cabal, and Ilk) of Cookie Dough (and Chat Room). You can google her for her columns.
By Mugsy Peabody on 06/08/2008 3:37 pm
Renata
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/us/politics/08recon.html?_r=1&partner=… The Long Road to the Clinton Exit - NYT/Sunday Overconfidence and constant infighting…
By Renata on 06/07/2008 9:29 pm
Buh- Bye
Renata, she’s gone. it’s over. what’s the deal with flogging this dead horse¿
By Buh- Bye on 06/07/2008 11:18 pm
Renata
http://msa4.wordpress.com/ Obama, Spock and the New Star Trek Nation …or, replacements for HRC supporters who are going to John McCain! We’ll take them! :-)
By Renata on 06/07/2008 10:14 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Renata is a one-trick pony. This is all she knows how to do.
By Mugsy Peabody on 06/08/2008 2:07 am
To the beach ~~~
A lot of other people, including many more that don’t post, but just read, are interested….this isn’t the site of the Childish Mugsy Cabal—-it says Politics at the site heading—-she is free to post as she wishes—-and gee, I remember quite clearly when Mark Klein was posting the worst possible woman hating posts all of ‘feminists’ were all for ignoring him….so clearly you understand that as a tactic….so why not apply it here. You are one self-congratulating pack of small, mean, belittling women.
By To the beach ~~~ on 06/08/2008 6:47 am
K O
Why are you so angry?
By K O on 06/08/2008 9:41 am
Deni G
I am sad to say Kitty, Suzanne de is probably just getting warmed up.
By Deni G on 06/08/2008 11:22 am
Frannie Em
Deni Lol Yeah, wait until she gets to microwave nuking
By Frannie Em on 06/08/2008 7:04 pm
Deni G
cracking up!
By Deni G on 06/08/2008 7:52 pm
To the beach ~~~
Lilly of The Valley, et al—for one I’m not interested in “joining” I assure you. and I am not ‘angry’ but disgusted. This is NOT this little cliques site, and Renata has the RIGHT to Free Speech. You all were so disinclined to stand up to Mark Klein’s bordering on criminal hate speech, but go at this very intelligent woman en masse. None of you, I presume, lived next to the WTC, etc etc. So ignore her if you don’t like it. Just as you ignored Mark Klein. Otherwise I will just keep defending her and Taylor and then help perpetuate what you say you don’t like/want. Pretty simple to understand isn’t it? Renata happens to have more brains and more to actually say than all of you put together with your ridiculous ROTFLOL cookie dough etc etc. Maybe if you read as much and understand as much as she does you wouldn’t be so self-congratulatory as a group. Ignore it. Quit denigrating her. Quit diminishing her while applauding yourselves for being so ‘nice’—-you aren’t. You’re just super silly HRC “I love war and killing” supporters/victims. She has a right to FREE SPEECH. Drop it already. Pretend like she is woman hating/ranting Mark Klein so that it’s easy for your little group of racist cackling hens.
By To the beach ~~~ on 06/08/2008 2:47 pm
Frannie Em
She will never forgive us for not joining in on the slugfest against Mark Klein.
By Frannie Em on 06/08/2008 7:05 pm
To the beach ~~~
Fran—the point is you hypocrisy you twit. You cackling hens are fine with ignoring criminal misogyny but two black women come on the board and you are all belittling and on them constantly. You are self-congratulatory and supercilious…..gee Mugsy didn’t have me, renata or taylor to blame for her chasing Frank off the site…because we weren’t there….and her language towards JackieOHOH really nice. santimonious……and what have you done…secretaries and telephone operators….no wonder you’re so resentful…blame others…victims….drunks talking about booze and drugs all the time what does frank call it…doobie. Such a high class crowd. And all the LOL. Really pathetic.
By To the beach ~~~ on 06/09/2008 5:09 am
Elizabeth Bennett
Right, and with all those communicators/cell phones and other technology right from Star Trek. Maybe we don’t have transporters, but we have Skype. I actually do not think Obama is that much like Spock, but it would be entertaining to think that the Enterprise era was nigh.
By Elizabeth Bennett on 06/08/2008 3:11 pm
Maurine H
For some time I have been reading the blog of Deanie Mills, a published writer and military mom living in Texas. Deanie is blunt and forceful. She has seen too much of the suffering and death caused by the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. If you have time and can visit her blogsite the link is http://deaniemills.com/ The title of her blog today is: “HILLARY SUPPORTERS: FROM ONE MOTHER TO ANOTHER, I’M BEGGING YOU” Thank you. Maurine
By Maurine H on 06/07/2008 11:00 pm