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Conversation | 06/06/2008 6:26 pm

Liz Smith on Hillary: 'A Lot of Obama's Supporters Would Just Die if He Chose Her'

© AP

Editor’s Note: Sen. Clinton announced this week that she is going to give her support to Sen. Obama and give up the race. What happens to the vice presidency now? Who do you think Obama will choose? Do you think he, in order to unite the party, will choose Hillary as his running mate? These are the questions we posed to Liz, Mary, Judith and Jane.

LIZ: I just had lunch with one of Hillary’s backers, a person who is an aide to Hillary. And she says that she always encouraged her to try and get the vice-presidential slot if she couldn’t win the presidency. But now she feels that Obama probably won’t offer it, because they really don’t want her. They just want her to campaign for him, but they don’t want her to be vice president. Imagine the baggage she would have as the vice president – she and Bill. The vice president doesn’t have very much to do – just serves at the will of the president; presides over the Senate. And, while it’s the second most important job, it’s kind of a nothing job. It’s a strange thing.

MARY: But the current vice president has been very powerful.

JUDITH: You haven’t pointed out that it’s second in line to the presidency.

LIZ: That’s right. That’s the advantage.

JUDITH: I think she should go for a good job. She’s got a bargaining position, and the Supreme Court would be ideal for her. But when Sen. Obama gave his victory speech, it sounded suspiciously like he might offer her something terrible, like being head of H.H.S.[Dept. of Health and Human Services].

LIZ: This person, the one who’s her aide, doesn’t believe she would want to be in the cabinet.

JUDITH: I would think not, especially H.H.S., which is such a difficult position.

LIZ: Well, I think she’d make a dandy secretary of state. I can see her traveling around the world to restore the reputation of this country, at the will of her president. Or, she can remain the senator of New York and bide her time and see what happens. My friend believes that whatever her faults were in this campaign should be blamed on Mark Penn who refused to set up any kind of grassroots thing for her and didn’t use the Internet properly. So Obama took all of that away from them. Most of Hillary’s people now really blame this guy. And for all of her faults in the campaign, she remains a very dedicated and capable and driven kind of person. And we’ve got to remember — 18 million Americans wanted her for president.

Look at Hillary’s enormous support among these older, uneducated women in America, and how marginalized they are by everybody else – like they don’t count. And she really made them count. And I don’t think there’s any way they can vanquish her. I think she’ll come back in one way or another. And Obama’s not ignoring that. He’ll do something, I think. He’ll offer her something – maybe something she really wants.

JUDITH: The things on her list of what she wants were on the domestic side — not on the foreign affairs side. What would be more powerful than the Supreme Court?

LIZ: I don’t know, though. I feel, Judith, it’s too sort of sedentary for her.

JUDITH: Really?

MARY: Don’t you have to have some legal background?

JUDITH: You don’t have to have been a judge, no. You have to be a lawyer, which she is.

LIZ: She’s a good lawyer.

JUDITH: Yes, she’s a lawyer. And if she wants to advance those issues, which were all domestic issues, I would think that that would be the place. And it’s a much better job than being president, much less vice president.

LIZ: Well what do you think, Mary?

1157 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Buh- Bye
well, we’ll have to see what this new future brings fiona. so far all obama represents is a bunch of speeches. he said “pass” in over 100 senate votes. who knows where this guy, who admires Ronald Reagan so much, stands.
By Buh- Bye on 06/08/2008 11:24 am
Renata
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06082008/news/columnists/she__em__still_thin… It’s Still All About Her - Peggy Noonan (Thank you!/r.) June 8, 2008 — NYPost.com Washington -She was as gracious as she could be. I mean that literally. It was the closest she could come to grace. It was all about her – I, me, me, I – and not about the man who needs her support. When she referred to Obama it was all poker-face and passive-voice. When Mrs. Clinton speaks and wants you to believe she means something she gestures with her hands and arms, and attempts inflection. But here, in praising the presumptive Democratic nominee, she used the same voice she had used on the trail to attack him. When she got to the parts of the speech in which she endorsed Obama, she seemed to be making a point of reading. She lowered her eyes to the text and read with a comparatively flattened voice, and with little expression…
By Renata on 06/08/2008 10:13 am
Buh- Bye
poop
By Buh- Bye on 06/08/2008 11:25 am
Deni G
again…I stand in awe of you.
By Deni G on 06/08/2008 11:34 am
Frannie Em
Deni Don’t make me laugh - omg
By Frannie Em on 06/09/2008 1:04 am
Star Lawrence
Now we’re believing The Murmuring Matron, as we call Peg at our house?
By Star Lawrence on 06/08/2008 11:59 am
Renata
As Barack continues to be triangulated by Familia Clinton and the brutal but fair competition with Senator McCain, I submit the following which another people in another difficult time — kept their heads up and FOCUSED - and thrived despite the odds. HRC raising the spectre of RFK’s assasination has not been forgotten as she “suspends” her Campaign. I am less concerned about whether her folks will vote their interests — or, damage the Nation by focusing instead on solidarity with Hillary — than that statement she continually openly spoke of, looking into the cameras, when she knew she had lost. New Yorkers we have work to do on our JUNIOR Senator to remind her WHO she is when she leverages power WE give her. As w/Hillary Rosen, WE are no platform or chips to be dealt on the card table of HER ambition — nor will be subvert OUR interests and security for some national feminist pipe-dream for a woman unworthy of carrying that banner from our port of call. All women are not monolithic and, women who do not want to be part of this “army” hijacked by HRC’s interests — should speak up an speak out! Angels Watching Over Me (for Barack) 19th Century “Negro” Spritual Written By: Unknown Copyright Unknown All night, all day, Angels watching over me, my Lord. All night, all day, Angels watching over me. Sun is a-setting in the West; Angels watching over me, my Lord. Sleep my child, take your rest; Angels watching over me. All night, all day, Angels watching over me, my Lord. All night, all day, Angels watching over me.
By Renata on 06/08/2008 10:21 am
wild heather
RENATA — there’s a reason they call it the USKKKofA and it didn’t start with theTrinity United Chruch of Christ — the second largest church in the country. Do you know what percentage have been killed or attacked by assassins — look it up. And by the way, does the date April 4th mean anything to you?
By wild heather on 06/10/2008 3:48 am
sanders c
Renata and others who hate the idea of Hillary as VP, who do you like for the job? I like Joe Biden.
By sanders c on 06/08/2008 10:30 am
To the beach ~~~
I like Senator Chuck Hagel (R), Senator Jim Webb, or Former Supreme NATO commander and Rhodes Scholar Wesley Clark. All are super brains, and can balance the ticket, bring on white southern men and military/security types, and handle the verbal firefights, swiftboating. There are some policies of Senator Hagels that I don’t agree with, but he is super intelligent, and a fair minded individual who can compromise.
By To the beach ~~~ on 06/08/2008 4:20 pm
K O
The first five words in that question are such an eloquent statement. “Renata and others who hate…”
By K O on 06/08/2008 10:39 am
To the beach ~~~
Kitty—I never use the word hate, nor do I think it, nor do I choose or affirm others use of it. It is rather amusing that despite the fact that the major US paper that the endorsed Clinton, the NYT’s, in their editorial “The Low Road to Victory” called for the superdelegates to decide the election in April citing her race baiting and dirty and divisive ‘low road’ tactics as their reason. Rather an incredible step that was due to, as they stated, her hateful tactics. And you use a random poster’s one word to bolster your beliefs? Wow, how unacademic of you. Oh, but that’s right, you don’t work at UCLA any longer. I used to work at UCLA….never heard of anyone on a tenure track giving up a position. But then I don’t know any academics that would stoop to such silly tactics as you just used.
By To the beach ~~~ on 06/08/2008 4:34 pm
K O
Hi Suzanne, I embrace Renata’s right to her opinion… just don’t like the delivery. Hey, aren’t you the one who blasted me about discussing whether there was a recession on another post? I remember you intimating I was pretty darned unacademic there, too. You don’t need to agree with me to be in an interesting discussion. I just ask for no name calling and maybe just a little sense of humor. Just a little.
By K O on 06/08/2008 6:28 pm
Star Lawrence
Me, I am going to the store to see if they take Cabal Cash.
By Star Lawrence on 06/08/2008 12:13 pm
Buh- Bye
lol star
By Buh- Bye on 06/08/2008 12:23 pm