Conversation | 05/02/2008 12:00 am
Marlo Thomas: The Media Steals Our Chances of a Fair Election

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LILY: Nobody wants to see the greater good for more people. They want to see the greater good — for their individual group.
MARLO: But we’re investing so much money in so many lives in a war, and no money at all in alternate fuel and technology. And where was the media for that?
JOAN: Mary, when you were Wells, Rich, Green, were you guys buying advertising time during the network’s news?
MARY: Sure.
JOAN: So, you didn’t care that the network news was heavy and sometimes dull?
MARY: Well, actually, at the time I think the network news was better than it is now. I wasn’t really judging the network news. I was so busy just trying to keep that agency up and keep everybody working and just get going. When you start a business, you’re kind of focused on survival. I approved media plans. But media plans involved so many different kinds of media in so many different places.
LILY: And you’re supposed to get results for your client.
MARY: And you’re looking at numbers. Half of the shows I bought in I never saw. I couldn’t because I had very big clients. I wouldn’t have done anything else, you know, if I —
JOAN: I don’t know when it became that everything on the news was about Jessica Simpson.
MARY: They think that’s what people want.
LILY: Because the culture is dumbed down, regular, ordinary people have less time to even reflect on anything. They have to work. They’re fed so much disinformation. So many lies are in the culture and in the media that I don’t think people even know any more. And now we have all these third-world countries, who will never have had a chance at aspiring to the middle class, because there’s nothing left. And if they do, we really don’t have any resources. We have used up so much of the resources without thinking of the future. Think of the third-world countries who live so desperately. What if they suddenly were self-sustaining — and then they tried to create a better standard of living for their people?
MARLO: Think of all we could have done in this world with the money on the war. You read stories about the starvation and the AIDS and the TB and all these things. And … we spend all this money.
Can I just suggest one tiny part of what’s terrible that’s going on? The loss of honor. There’s no feeling about honor. A couple of weeks ago Cheney was on some show and the woman interviewer said, “About 75 percent of the people in this country are against the war.” And he just looked and said, “So?”
MARY: I think he probably has accomplished all that he’s interested in.
MARLO: Clinton was impeached for a girl under a desk. And Nixon went to hell for the dirty tricks of a campaign. It’s … it’s mind-boggling to me what they’re getting away with.
LILY: Wait, we haven’t had our next election either, yet.
MARLO: Oh, imagine McCain — Mr. One-Hundred-Years McCain.
JOAN: Mary is going to figure out a way to sell peace and humanity and common sense.
MARY: Right.
JOAN: And she’s going to use this line from Marcus Aurelius, which is, “What is no good for the hive is no good for the bee.”
LILY: And Marcus Aurelius is from a loooooooong time ago.
MARLO: But we’re investing so much money in so many lives in a war, and no money at all in alternate fuel and technology. And where was the media for that?
JOAN: Mary, when you were Wells, Rich, Green, were you guys buying advertising time during the network’s news?
MARY: Sure.
JOAN: So, you didn’t care that the network news was heavy and sometimes dull?
MARY: Well, actually, at the time I think the network news was better than it is now. I wasn’t really judging the network news. I was so busy just trying to keep that agency up and keep everybody working and just get going. When you start a business, you’re kind of focused on survival. I approved media plans. But media plans involved so many different kinds of media in so many different places.
LILY: And you’re supposed to get results for your client.
MARY: And you’re looking at numbers. Half of the shows I bought in I never saw. I couldn’t because I had very big clients. I wouldn’t have done anything else, you know, if I —
JOAN: I don’t know when it became that everything on the news was about Jessica Simpson.
MARY: They think that’s what people want.
LILY: Because the culture is dumbed down, regular, ordinary people have less time to even reflect on anything. They have to work. They’re fed so much disinformation. So many lies are in the culture and in the media that I don’t think people even know any more. And now we have all these third-world countries, who will never have had a chance at aspiring to the middle class, because there’s nothing left. And if they do, we really don’t have any resources. We have used up so much of the resources without thinking of the future. Think of the third-world countries who live so desperately. What if they suddenly were self-sustaining — and then they tried to create a better standard of living for their people?
MARLO: Think of all we could have done in this world with the money on the war. You read stories about the starvation and the AIDS and the TB and all these things. And … we spend all this money.
Can I just suggest one tiny part of what’s terrible that’s going on? The loss of honor. There’s no feeling about honor. A couple of weeks ago Cheney was on some show and the woman interviewer said, “About 75 percent of the people in this country are against the war.” And he just looked and said, “So?”
MARY: I think he probably has accomplished all that he’s interested in.
MARLO: Clinton was impeached for a girl under a desk. And Nixon went to hell for the dirty tricks of a campaign. It’s … it’s mind-boggling to me what they’re getting away with.
LILY: Wait, we haven’t had our next election either, yet.
MARLO: Oh, imagine McCain — Mr. One-Hundred-Years McCain.
JOAN: Mary is going to figure out a way to sell peace and humanity and common sense.
MARY: Right.
JOAN: And she’s going to use this line from Marcus Aurelius, which is, “What is no good for the hive is no good for the bee.”
LILY: And Marcus Aurelius is from a loooooooong time ago.
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