HEIDI: My body has changed, everything has changed.

LIZ: But you stay in shape!

HEIDI: I do stay in shape, yeah, because I want to be in shape. I want to be in shape. I want to be sexy for my man. I want to be good for my business — I still want to — but at the end of the day, I want to feel attractive, too. You know, and I think that’s why you do it ultimately.

LIZ: So you weren’t just born looking as perfect as this?

HEIDI: I don’t think anyone really is. I think just a very few people have that — that they can really, really, really do anything and nothing ever happens. I mean, I don’t really have to work out that much, but I have to kind of watch what I eat. And that doesn’t mean not eating anything; that means eating the right things and not eating too much bread and too much pasta and all those things.

LIZ: You know, on wowOwow.com, we did a feature on "Starter Husbands." Could you just tell us one thing you ever learned from your experiences before Seal? With your other husband?

HEIDI: Experiences before? They’re all a buildup to the ultimate husband that I finally found! I think it’s all buildup. I think you have to go through different stages of different relationships and you always learn something and take something with you — something that you liked about that person, and other things that you don’t like about this person. And I think that helps you ultimately find the one that you hopefully stay with for the rest of your life.

LIZ: Well good, you were young enough to appreciate another husband. I finally decided no more marriage!

HEIDI: Actually, I like to be married. I like to be a woman for my man. I like to be the only one. I like that. I’m a little bit old-fashioned in that way. I like to be a mother and a wife to a husband and commit to that person.

LIZ: It’s a comment on society today that you can be that way. It’s unusual. You’ve spoken out against cosmetic surgery. I’m wondering, does this mean that down the road you’d never have it?

HEIDI: I don’t want to say I’ll never do it, because who knows how I’ll feel in ten, fifteen years? I can just talk about how I feel right now. And right now I feel fine with getting older. I feel fine with getting wrinkles. I think, personally, someone who grows old gracefully and has wrinkles to me is more attractive than someone who is completely done up in a way and you can just tell. I just don’t know if I like it so much.

LIZ: Well, there’s no question that a lot of people have overdone it.

HEIDI: Yeah, and I think that’s perfectly fine. I think that at the end of the day, everyone has to be happy with themselves, and if you prefer that then that’s great. I just can only speak for me. I think I prefer the wrinkles.