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Conversation | 11/11/2008 12:30 pm

Marlo Thomas: Mike Nichols and Ed Sherick Helped Make My Career

Marlo Thomas shares her ‘big break’ story with wOw friends Joan Ganz Cooney and Jane Wagner
MARLO: I was going to say that one of the things that Ed Sherick — again he was not a friend. He became a friend, but he mentored me by not only giving me my own show, allowing me to take the reins of it. But he thought so much of me, he so believed in my ability to run something, that the very idea of his having meetings in which … you know, with the network … he was the head of programming, and when he’d bring in all those salesmen and the marketing people and so forth, he would always start with me. It was his imprimatur that made everybody else take me seriously. And don’t forget, I was in my early 20s, and a pretty girl in a short skirt. So I could have easily been dismissed as a novelty.

JOAN: Marlo. Marlo, you have to be honest and say it didn’t hurt.

JANE: To be attractive.

JOAN: … nice-looking girl.

MARLO: Oh, yes. Absolutely. That doesn’t hurt. But he gave me the money for the show.

JANE: He believed in you.

MARLO: Yeah, he believed in me. I mean, he entrusted me to the millions of dollars it took to finance a show.

JANE: We’re all in need of it at that point – somebody who believes in you. Somebody to believe in you more than you do yourself.

MARLO: He might have thought I was cute, but he didn’t give money to a cute girl. He entrusted the financing to me because he thought I could handle it.

7 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Ms. Dee
I’m still not sure about some of the people who “helped” me. I don’t think they really trusted me because I had so many kids, and my focus was almost always on them. It was a challenge because I needed work to take care of them, but I wasn’t supposed to focus on them at work. I think the people who hired me could see that it was in their interest, or at least they had nothing to lose, taking the risk to give me a shot. I hope I didn’t disappoint anybody…except the people who were only keeping me around cause I was cute. But even those gave me opportunities to learn, and their help was valuable. But I have news for Governor Palin, there’s no need to “barge through” an open door. I still want it on my tombstone…”In 1979, she worked her way off welfare in nine months as a free-lance writer and actress…backwards…and in high heels.”
By Ms. Dee on 11/11/2008 1:03 pm
Dab-a- do
I still want it on my tombstone…”In 1979, she worked her way off welfare in nine months as a free-lance writer and actress…backwards…and in high heels.” Ms. Dee 11/11/2008 I want to remember this, it is what women are all about. And doing it while taking care of children with them being so important.
By Dab-a- do on 11/11/2008 1:11 pm
Ms. Dee
That’s really sweet of you to say, Dab-a-do. XOXO
By Ms. Dee on 11/11/2008 1:25 pm
newzie snoozie
WHAT I HAVE TODAY TO SAY IS ATTA WAY LADIES- ATTA WAY. THEN TO MARLO, OUR WHOLE FAMILY WATCHEDTHAT GIRLHAHA! WE ALSO WATCHEDFATHER KNOWS BEST”. THE HUSBAND HERE WATCHEDTHE RIFLEMANAND THEN HE STARTED AGING!!!!!WHAT A BUMMER. THE WAY I GOT STATED WAS WITH MY MOM AND DAD AND I GREW TO KNOW THEM. MARLO, YOU CAME FROM A GOOD FAMILYGOD BLESS YOU BABYGIRL!
By newzie snoozie on 11/11/2008 3:37 pm
Emcye Edwards
What a sensitive topic, for me. Career support has tended to circle my orbit without landing. Mainly because I dream up huge projects that require considerable engagement, so I handle them without draining off others. Plus I do such a hodge-podge of things, I’ve been hard to pigeon-hole. There was a long time, before hybrid media, when a person either chose to write, design, compose, teach or work in broadcast. My sister, exasperated, would say, Pick One! After developing projects and the inevitable moment comes when you are directed to meet with a ‘kingmaker’ - it becomes clear they will only support a woman they can possess. And I’ve had moments, pitching projects in front of boards, when a women will be the one to gaze up dubiously and ask, You thought this up? I still try my best not to languish without a leg up. At times, it makes me want to switch off my imagination. Undaunted, we proceed.
By Emcye Edwards on 11/11/2008 8:00 pm
James the Game
Maalox Marlo: Just got home after spending several days in Lansing. Hope you’re doing dandy. It’s getting very cold and nasty in Wish Again; snow, sleet, slop…. Anywho, your talent is what made you a shining star in the day. I’m sure having a famous father and drop-dead gorgeous looks didn’t hurt - even the most talented need a break somewhere along the line. But your natural ability, along with a drive for perfectionism, and being in the right place at the right time combined to make you a star. Great natural ability + hard work make for a spectacular talent. I’m egotistical enough to submit that I have some of those qualities, but only in a very narrow range. For example, I can barely draw a stick figure, I tried to make tapioca once and it turned into a rubber ball (I’m dead serious). But I’ve been told countless times (even today at a radio station staff meeting) that I’ve been blessed with a great voice, and I know my writing, editing and proofreading skills are rare (I don’t bother to proofread on this site, only at work). The Lord knows how hard I’ve worked to take what God has given me, but it never results in anything substantive, in terms of a really good-paying job or anything. I’ll never be famous. But there has to be some higher purpose to it all, and that, to me, is the key when I get depressed. My life has moved in so many different directions, it’s unreal. As great of a talent as I know you are, I really wish you had the time and opportunity to do something that would display your God-given super-talents in a brighter spotlight. You would be fantastic on an even-keeled talk show, not these manufactured brawls on network TV. You have the rare voice, the wisdom from life experiences few have known, a fascinating acting and family history, and St. Jude CRH. But you also have a certain charisma that jumps out of the screen, and on the radio airwaves. As for me, I’m in radio news, but my real passion has always been sports.
By James the Game on 11/13/2008 8:01 pm
Mike Ward
Having worked with Marlo, it’s clear that her discipline, personality and talent are the driving force behind her success.  While she may have the connections to get through the door, that is not what keeps her there and why people continue to want to work with her.  If anything, the child of a celebrity has to prove themselves even more so, so as to avoid the undercutting of their talent with the simple dismissal of "she only got the job because…".  Above all else, Marlo reminds me of a saying my dear friend and colleague George Furth would frequently share with me: "It’s not enough to have talent, you have to have a talent for having talent."  Marlo has that and so much more.
By Mike Ward on 08/10/2009 4:47 pm