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Conversation | 05/20/2008 11:15 am

Eyes on the Campaign Trail Part Three: Who Says Older Ages Equal Serious Health Problems?

© AP

Editor’s Note: Featuring Kathleen Jamieson, director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center, a professor of communications and the former dean of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania.

LESLEY: Kathleen, are you picking up any ageism out there? Will people actually vote against John McCain because he’ll be 72 years old?

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KATHLEEN: Yes. And when we asked that on the survey we find a higher percent say they will vote against him on age than any other category out there are voting against. So it’s real, it’s there. And the clearest instance that I have that suggests that it’s alive at press coverage is that John McCain’s name isn’t John McCain. John McCain’s name is “John McCain, 71.”

LESLEY: You know, I’m so surprised at that, I must say. I’m actually shocked that — given how different the two sides are on big, big issues — someone would vote against him even if they agreed with him, because he’s 71 years old. But you’re definitely picking it up? Is anyone else surprised?

CANDICE: Well, "Saturday Night Live" – he was on last Saturday, saying … I think he opened the show saying that the main qualification for president is that he be very, very, very, very old. So, he addressed it head-on with the show.

LESLEY: Which means he must be seeing it affecting the polling.

CANDICE: Oh, sure.

LESLEY: And what about his health?

LIZ: Well, Time magazine had a pretty devastating piece on his health just last week, where they discuss how his type of melanoma frequently recurs and it’s fatal and all of that. They went on and on.

KATHLEEN: And if somebody wants to be concerned about health, I applaud it. I think candidates should disclose their health records. But I don’t think we should assume that older ages necessarily equal serious health problems, and younger ages don’t. I mean, John Kennedy, the youngest president in our memory, came into the White House with Addison’s Disease, covered up and undisclosed – which means that he was taking corticosteroids during the Cuban missile crisis. And, you know, taking corticosteroids because you’re under stress, when you have Addison’s Disease has some co-variation with mood swings, and it’s not reassuring that we had a president who may have been experiencing mood swings while the country was on the brink of nuclear war. So, knowing what the health profile is of every candidate is, I think, something that candidates should be obliged to disclose. And if the country is assessing age independent of health, I’d like to know what the concern is about being older.

LESLEY: That’s such a good question. Well, you know, John McCain is about to release his health records, I think in the next week or so. So that’s going to stir up a lot of questions and stories about this very issue.

15 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

doll lady
Geeze…..bad health knows no age barriers. I know that for a fact. And just because you have some type of health condition, doesn’t make you an imbecile who can’t carry on…..unless the health condition becomes so acute the person becomes disabled or dies or otherwise can’t carry on. And…. that’s why there is a Vice President….one who can carry on…..and if that VP can’t, then comes the speaker of the house….etc etc etc. The presidential line of succession. I may not like Mr. McCain, but I don’t consider him “not viable” just because he has some age under his belt (note I did not say experience, I said age). Anyone of us could die or become ill at any time….young, old, baby…any age.
By doll lady on 05/20/2008 1:40 pm
lavern reed
I am puzzled, WHY IS IT THAT WOMEN ARE NOT AWARE THAT 2 WEEKS AGO CONGRESS HELD A VOTE TO CONSIDER CHANGING THE EQUAL PAY LAWS TO PAY WOMEN THE SAME AS MEN AND JOHN MCCAIN REFUSED TO RETURN TO WASHINGTON AND VOTE AND SAID IT WOULD CAUSE WOMEN TO FILE LAWSUITS. THE PRESIDENT ALSO AGREED AND SAID THE SAME THING, FUNNY APPARENTLY THEY BELIEVED THAT EMPLOYERS WOULD NOT PAY WOMEN THE SAME PAY AS A MAN ON THE SAME JOB BECAUSE IF THEY DID THERE WOULD BE NO LAWSUITS. SO MUCH FO BELIEVING THAT EMPLOYERS WOULD DO THE RIGHT THING. THIS VOTE WAS THE RESULT OF A SUPREME COURT CASE IN WHICH A WOMAN AFTER 20 YEARS ON THE SAME JOB AS 15 MEN FOUND OUT SHE WAS MAKING 20% LESS. THE SUPREME COURT RULED THAT SHE DID NOT FILE WITHIN THE REQUIRED TIMEFRAME. HOWEVER, SHE DID NOT KNOW DURING THE REQUIRED TIME PERIOD OF FILING. SO RUTH BADER GINGSBURG REFERRED THE CASE TO THE CONGRESS AND ASKED THEM TO CHANGE THE LAW. THE REPUBLICANS BLOCKED THE VOTE IN THE SENATE. WOMEN WHY ARE WE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET FOR 200 YEARS. WHY IS THE MEDIA SILENT/ WHY ARE WE SILENT. THE TAMPA PAPER CALLED OUT SEN. MARTINEZ FOR VOTING AGAINST THE BILL.
By lavern reed on 05/30/2008 9:07 pm
Buh- Bye
There’s something to be said for the wisdom of elders. They have a greater perspective than youth and are more seasoned. I, for one, would like to see our elders respected and valued more. This toss-everything-away-that-isn’t-fresh-and-new mindset is a source of toxicity in our society, and I don’t just mean on environmental fronts.
By Buh- Bye on 05/20/2008 4:30 pm
~ countrywoman ~
My Alias - 5/20/2008 4:30 PM There is also a lot to be said for the wisdom in this posting.
By ~ countrywoman ~ on 05/28/2008 1:12 am
Toddie
I hope that the issue isn’t so much ageism, but concern over health. And a candidate’s health status is absolutely relevant to the voting public and should be disclosed. But let’s face it - of the three issues discussed (gender, race, and age/health), the third is the only one that might viably result in the succession of the office of Presidency by the Vice President. Therefore, while a candidate’s age and/or health status should certainly not be the sole determiner of whether one will or will not vote for him, I believe it is a valid factor for consideration combined with the ultimate naming of a running mate. Consider the following scenario: McCain/Cheney (not that it will ever happen, God willing…) - would you still not think twice about your vote, considering what would happen if McCain would die in office? Frankly, the same goes for any of the candidates - the naming of the running mate on the Democratic ticket will be important to me for the very same reason, because as earlier commenters have stated, anyone can become incapacitated or die at any time.
By Toddie on 05/20/2008 11:27 pm
Brooklyn Gal
Well, given that McCain’s mother is still active, it speaks to him as well. There are so many people in their 70s living very active lives. People should vote the candidate they feel is qualified without getting into isms. Hey, I remember when I was young, we had a saying about trusting people over 30.
By Brooklyn Gal on 05/21/2008 2:49 am
Dona Howlett
Age has a lot to do with ability……..As we age our memory is not as good, our strength wanes……our flexibiliy is less, our energy level is far less…. etc. etc. etc. Need I say more? The job as President of the United States is probably the hardest job in the World. Why would you want to put someone who is past retirement age into that job. I’m old……I’m intelligent but I still think 72 years of age is not an asset for the Presidency……8 years is the term…..He would be 80 at the end of his term. I think 78 is the projected life span of American men??????
By Dona Howlett on 05/21/2008 10:56 am
Buh- Bye
Who’s giving him 8 yrs? He’ll only be 76 before the next election comes round. And Hillary, 64, will still be a shiny bright penny, standing ready to fix up McCain’s mess. Let’s see who votes against her THEN!
By Buh- Bye on 05/21/2008 3:59 pm
CAROLINE MuLVEY
I do not care how old one is (my 75yr,old mother-in-law works very hard) I do not care about color and I do not care about gender.I just want a President that will finally do some good for our country!
By CAROLINE MuLVEY on 05/21/2008 3:35 pm
Mugsy Peabody
My grandfather quit farming when he was 87 because, he said, it had gotten boring. He passed at 93. Both of my parents were in compos mentos when they died, in their mid-80s. I know many young people who are absolute fools. So ageism? I just am really tired of tired old men starting wars for young people to die in, but what is new about that?
By Mugsy Peabody on 05/21/2008 7:32 pm
Dona Howlett
Mugsy, I’ve always said the solution to WAR is………Have a draft and only men over 50 can be drafted. You can bet your bottom dollar those old guys would find a way to solve the issues without going to battle. What do you think?
By Dona Howlett on 05/24/2008 1:41 pm
Linda P
I’ve been reading all the threads about Ted Kennedy, 76 - and absolutely no one has equated his age with his health/illness! Cripes! FDR had polio, Ike had cancer, JFK had Addison’s Disease, LBJ was a boozer, Ronald Reagan had early-stage Alzheimer’s, Bill Clinton had a heart condition even HE wasn’t aware of………..if we’d required all of these men to make health disclosures before running for office, the likelihood is that none of them would have qualified for the presidency. Age is pretty much a non-issue as far as I’m concerned. There will always be pros and cons. Is Hillary taking hormone replacement therapy? Has she always used suncreen? Does Barack have residual whatever-it-is in his brain cells from smoking pot? Oh, please! This whole age-health thing is a stretch……….
By Linda P on 05/21/2008 9:12 pm
christina haskin
I think age can be a plus for the Presidency if the candidate is healthy and energetic and sharp because they have wisdom. Having said that if they have a history of health issues it might be a problem.
By christina haskin on 05/23/2008 11:58 am
Sandbee (FB) 54
Everyone says age and health, but to me it is age and the ability to think as quick and clear as you did. I am living around people, my husband who is 17 years older than me and my mother, who were extremely intelligent and now, in their 70’s, they are suddenly not coming up with answers as fast as they used to do. They don’t remember things the way that they did in the past. They react differently, with more stress and sudden bursts of emotion. They say that McCain has a strong temper, do we need that and a chance that he might not think clearly? Also, it is wonderful that he made it through a time as a prisoner of war, I had an uncle who did that in Korea, but it did not add to his mental health, it gave him nightmares. He was not weakened by it but he was not strenghtened either.
By Sandbee (FB) 54 on 06/10/2008 7:43 am
Pro mom
Age does not always mean forgetfulness but…unfortunately McCain has forgotten that he was not a prisoner of war. He was a detainee in a police action. Like being held at a traffic stop while the officer investigates your guilt. He is no different than the detainees we hold at Guantanamo Bay. Since this administration has determined that we are not doing anything illegal, the same must be true of the Vietnam police action. No one wants to “toss-away-everything-that-isn’t-fresh-and-new” but it is insanity to continue with a “mindset” that has plunged our country and constitution into destruction.
By Pro mom on 10/27/2008 10:59 am