Conversation | 02/19/2008 9:41 am
What Has More Muscle: Movies or Media?

JOAN: Are movies reacting to the Iraq war?
MARLO: I think with the more political movies, against the war, it’s happening much sooner than it did in the Vietnam. Back then films like "Coming Home" and "Deer Hunter" seemed to have come way later, after everybody was out — on the last helicopter. I remember people were marching in the street and very passionate, but it really wasn’t on the screen. This time there’s less marching, but there’s more on the screen.
LILY: There’s also "Rendition". That was pretty grueling. I’m amazed at the depth of the movies that are being made now. The people are more conscious. There are more people who are aware of this futile war.
MARLO: It’s as if it’s opened up a new forum, because it’s not in the media. Journalists were very late to the Iraq story, television pundits were very late to the story, so Michael Moore kind of owned it. He opened up a new forum, and started the dialogue.
I remember when he was on the cover of Time and the headline was, “Michael Moore’s War.” It was as if they gave him the war. Like he put a stamp on it. He was the first person to really speak up because nobody else was doing it. During the Vietnam war Walter Cronkite and a lot of people were talking about how many bodies were coming home. But they didn’t do that in this war.
LILY: Right. Because in the beginning of this war, the media were co-opted.
MARLO: Well, my husband was fired for trying. He was against the war before the invasion. And he was warned by MSNBC to stop talking against the war. And he didn’t. And there was a memo sent around that appeared in the New York Times and Vanity Fair that said, “We can’t have Donahue be the haven for the anti-war movement while the rest of the networks are waving the flag.”
They asked him to stop and he didn’t. I mean, he didn’t even take it seriously. He’d been on the air for 30 years and nobody had ever told him what he could or couldn’t say. And then one day they said, “That’sit.” That was a real shock.























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