Conversation | 09/23/2009 4:00 am
Whoopi Goldberg: 'I Was Raised to Think That Anything Was Possible in America'

Editor’s Note: This is part three of Liz Smith’s exclusive interview with Whoopi Goldberg. Click here to read part one. Click here to read part two.
LIZ: Well, Whoopi, I think anybody who cared to read your résumé, track your career, your thousands of awards … in some way you’ve won more awards than anybody. And I’m thinking of the Mark Twain Award especially — that was just the epitome! And people would say that as a result of this you are truly living the American dream and really feeling a part of it. Is there any difference for you in what happened in the election?
WHOOPI: Well, I learned that there was. I didn’t know that there was.
| LIZ: I thought, "I'm white, Whoopi's black, and maybe it's presumptuous of me to congratulate her." |
LIZ: You thought you were just another American going along …
WHOOPI: Yeah. Yeah.
LIZ: … and didn’t have high hopes.
WHOOPI: No. I was raised to think that anything was possible in America. And I realize now that there was a little qualifying voice that always said, "But don’t forget you’re black." You might not see your brother become a lawyer, a doctor. Let’s just put it that way. And so, I guess, it’s like a little scratch on your arm. It clears up and clears up and clears up and clears up and then you kind of know that something was there, but you don’t really think about it. And when I asked my mom, I said, "Did you ever think that you would see this?" And I thought she was going to say, "Of course," because she was the most positive person I know.
LIZ: Right.
WHOOPI: She said, "No, Caryn. I never." And when she said "never," the way she said it, "never thought I would see this in my lifetime," I thought, "Oh, my God. Here you are, you’ve paid taxes all your life. You’ve been an American all your life. Wait a minute, you just got to vote in the whole country in 1968." You know, it wasn’t until 1968 that blacks throughout the United States were able to vote.
LIZ: I know.
WHOOPI: Yes. But I forgot.
LIZ: You forgot. But you didn’t really think it meant that a black person could go to the total top.
WHOOPI: I realized that I didn’t buy the 1000 percent that I thought I did in the American dream.
LIZ: You know, if you’ve lived a long time you’re always astonished at things. I realize I was born only 14 years after women could vote in America. And so it’s the same thing. They did the Bill of Rights. They did the Constitution. They left slavery out of it because I think they really knew if they tried to put slavery into it then, that the nation would never be.























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I want to ask Whoopi a question about race because I don’t know if I am one. I was raised by an Italian family that was very racist, but I always prided myself in escaping being one myself, but now I am not so sure.
I have grown weary about the word being used everytime a negative happens to an African American. We have a black president, many famous people are black and others in business and politics. I am not saying everything is in balance, but I look at it like it is better. I try my best at times to understand the gangster mind, but just can’t. I was raised in a terrible neighborhood with an abusive father, yet I never turned to crime.
Today something came up in the news that is really questioning my racist question. A couple who own a small business in the Chicago area have put up a website for people to pledge to ONLY use businesses run by African-Americans. I find this to be outragaous. What about the other small businesses. Are African-Americans trying to be equal or better? I really find that I am learning about racism in the wrong way. I go to places that have good customer service and a pleasant atmoshere. My favorite store is the 7-11 up my street and that is run by a Pakistan family. I watch black comediens bash white people, but if the other way was done it would be a call of racism. They would never make movies that Mel Brooks made or TV such as All in the Family. I hate all this PC stuff. A black man in a bar said the "N" word to me about himself and I told him that "IF I can’t use, neither can you" So please, I beg how am I to be in this world, when I hate being overly PC?
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Marianne
I just joined today after watching The View and learning about this site. I’m going to be 60 in 3 days!!! I’m a cancer survivor but I’m disabled from the aggressive chemo and radiation. I love The View and Whoopi and it keeps me sane and smiling. Thanks for this conversation Whoopi and Liz. Keep on doing what you do so very well!