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Conversation | 09/23/2009 4:00 am

Whoopi Goldberg: 'I Was Raised to Think That Anything Was Possible in America'

Whoopi Goldberg and Liz Smith discuss race, Barack Obama and the American Dream …

Editor’s Note: This is part three of Liz Smith’s exclusive interview with Whoopi Goldberg. Click here to read part one. Click here to read part two.

LIZ: Well, Whoopi, I think anybody who cared to read your résumé, track your career, your thousands of awards … in some way you’ve won more awards than anybody. And I’m thinking of the Mark Twain Award especially — that was just the epitome! And people would say that as a result of this you are truly living the American dream and really feeling a part of it. Is there any difference for you in what happened in the election?

WHOOPI: Well, I learned that there was. I didn’t know that there was.

LIZ: I thought, "I'm white, Whoopi's black, and maybe it's presumptuous of me to congratulate her."

LIZ: You thought you were just another American going along …

WHOOPI: Yeah. Yeah.

LIZ: … and didn’t have high hopes.

WHOOPI: No. I was raised to think that anything was possible in America. And I realize now that there was a little qualifying voice that always said, "But don’t forget you’re black." You might not see your brother become a lawyer, a doctor. Let’s just put it that way. And so, I guess, it’s like a little scratch on your arm. It clears up and clears up and clears up and clears up and then you kind of know that something was there, but you don’t really think about it. And when I asked my mom, I said, "Did you ever think that you would see this?" And I thought she was going to say, "Of course," because she was the most positive person I know.

LIZ: Right.

WHOOPI: She said, "No, Caryn. I never." And when she said "never," the way she said it, "never thought I would see this in my lifetime," I thought, "Oh, my God. Here you are, you’ve paid taxes all your life. You’ve been an American all your life. Wait a minute, you just got to vote in the whole country in 1968." You know, it wasn’t until 1968 that blacks throughout the United States were able to vote.

LIZ: I know.

WHOOPI: Yes. But I forgot.

LIZ: You forgot. But you didn’t really think it meant that a black person could go to the total top.

WHOOPI: I realized that I didn’t buy the 1000 percent that I thought I did in the American dream.

LIZ: You know, if you’ve lived a long time you’re always astonished at things. I realize I was born only 14 years after women could vote in America. And so it’s the same thing. They did the Bill of Rights. They did the Constitution. They left slavery out of it because I think they really knew if they tried to put slavery into it then, that the nation would never be.

81 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Kathleen Fleming

We are all God’s children. I learned that in Sunday School, when we sang, "red and yellow, black and white, they are precious in his sight, Jesus loves the children of the world".   If you bleed red blood and breath oxygen, then we’re all the same. I never understood putting people in different catagories because of their skin color. My fathers side is Creek indian, and he always had a good tan. He worked hard to raise six kids and taught us to love and forgive those who let their ego guide them.

By Kathleen Fleming on 09/25/2009 12:43 pm
Mary Bones Angeloni

Again, I go back to my mother. She came to this country in 1947, speaking little to no English, became a US citizen which she was extremely proud, and raised 3 girls in the projects of New Haven, CT. She was loved by everyone, and race never came into play in our home. My mother experienced the class differences in her childhood growing up, and she was a truly rare human being. We had no money, cockroach infested home, were taught to respect everyone, and the true love of humanity was instilled my home.

 

By Mary Bones Angeloni on 09/25/2009 12:54 pm
jackie hubbard hubbard

 i just joined today after watching the view this morning. looking forward to more great things in the future.      jackie h.  houston,tx.

By jackie hubbard hubbard on 09/25/2009 2:32 pm
SANDI HERNDON
MY MOM HAD THE SAME REACTION WHOOPI’S MOM DID. SHE WAS SO HAPPY FOR HIM. SHE PASSED ON 1/6/09 AND WASNT ABLE TO SEE HIM TAKE THE OATH BUT SHE KNEW HE WAS OUR NEXT PRESIDENT AND IT MEANT THE WORLD TO HER.
By SANDI HERNDON on 09/25/2009 4:14 pm
joyce jones

I have watched the View for approximately 6 mths now and that is because I happened to see the pictures of the team that sits on the View. I am very impressed with the "Issues" part of the show and with some of the guests. I mostly impressed with Whoopi. She manages to clear up doubts about what the issues are and offers good sense answers to the issues. Keep up the good work Whoopi. I have been a fan of yours for some time and now I am a supporter. Thanks for the View.

By joyce jones on 09/25/2009 6:34 pm
Lauren Sinclair

Well, I feel out of place here! LOL. I was a fan of the view, was.

But then this election came around that those women turned uglier than a junk yard dog. They were rude and vicious to those that they did not agree with. Then they were fawning and drooling all over those that they supported. Nope, that was when I change the channel.

Oh, and I also wrote their advertisers.

All I have to say to Whoopie is; of course you could live the American dream. I am sick to death of all of the racial talk and what not. It serves no purpose at all, none. It is the past and that is where it will stay until some think that it will behoove their party to stir it all back up.

I say, move on. arggghhh with all of the race and class baiting. Obama is ruining this Nation and I couldn’t give a good hot damn what color the man is.

By Lauren Sinclair on 09/25/2009 9:52 pm
catherine garcia
Thank you for the interview and a wonderful look at you….
By catherine garcia on 09/25/2009 10:50 pm
Patricia Sprofera
As always, the ladies are at the top of their game; great interview!
By Patricia Sprofera on 09/26/2009 12:07 am
Rebecca G

Dear Whoopi,

I have always found you to be a great source of inspiration.  Your talent, your success, everything about you is inspiring. As for "The View," you’re the only reason I like that show because you say all the things I’m thinking.

I was moved by your comments about voting only as recently as 1968.  In 1967 interracial couples couldn’t even get married.  How horrible a thought that that was once illegal. It boggles the mind. As a Lesbian I understand the struggle some Americans still face just to try and enjoy their Constitutionally guaranteed Rights, and the amazement at which I watch the changes happen slowly but surely.

Keep up the good work. You are a great gift to us all.

~Becca

By Rebecca G on 09/26/2009 2:22 pm
valorie pollard
hi there whoopi an liz iam new at this i saw the view an i love the show you all are some kind of ladygod bless you all we need lady like you to stand up for us from valorie pollard
By valorie pollard on 09/26/2009 5:03 pm
Sheila Romano

Whoopie Thank You for standing up for what You believe in and for inspiring me to go back to school and to just be a better human being.  You are a breath of fresh air in a world where most people follow along so as not to make waves.

By Sheila Romano on 09/27/2009 5:33 pm
Beverly Raymond

I admire you for many reasons as you are multi-talented and ever so intelligent and funny.  However, I am disappointed that you defended Roman Polanski.  We just deported a sick Nazi after we found him hiding out under false identity here.  I consider that Polanski is a pedophile.  He did an unpardonable offense.  I am not convinced that he has not continued over the years his vile activities.  No rich or famous or talented person should be above the law.

By Beverly Raymond on 10/01/2009 2:35 pm