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Conversation | 09/09/2008 6:15 pm

The wOw Women Weigh in on Sarah Palin, Republican Strategy and Slow Democratic Response

JONI: The election. There are so many angles here, I’m going to let you all decide which one you want to discuss. But here we are. I mean, at the end of the day the choice is really John McCain vs. Barack Obama. But, you wouldn’t think that today. You would think, well, all we’re doing is talking about Gov. Palin. And I guess every day talking about her is a bad thing for Obama, because we’re not talking about him. And another angle on all of this is about how the press has been so dismissive of her. And then yesterday you had Maureen Dowd completely turning around and saying she’ll probably be president in four years. So, the whole wrangle of vilification. Cynthia, since you’ve been to the Republican Convention, perhaps you’d like to start. Where are we on this election today?

CYNTHIA: There is no question Sarah Palin changed the conversation. And I think that’s exactly what John McCain hoped would happen. You know, we can debate her merits but, I mean, John McCain has achieved what he wanted politically, at least so far. Coming out of Denver and Obama’s Invesco speech, you know, the general feeling was "nothing can top that," and on Friday McCain did — by announcing Sarah Palin. And he and Palin have dominated the news cycle since. There’s still an awful lot we don’t know. And I’m not so sure that all of it, all of the vetting, has been terribly attractive. I think her daughter’s pregnancy – I’m not saying it’s off limits – but I don’t think it really matters very much and I don’t think the American people think it matters very much. And the sort of glee with which the mainstream media jumped on that seemed to me to be rather unattractive. Whether or not Sarah Palin is competent to be Commander in Chief has little to do with whether or not she is or she isn’t a good mother, which seemed to be what the debate was focusing on last week.

JOAN C: May I interject that I think it was focused as much on hypocrisy, Cynthia, as it was on anything else that she has – for purity balls and abstinence and all of that good stuff, and would not have sex education in schools and that’s why it was gleeful, I think, more than —

CYNTHIA: But you know, Joan, we like to gossip about it all. I just think that, you know, boy do we have more important things to worry about than whether or not her daughter’s pregnant.

JOAN C: But she uses her family politically a great deal in Alaska. There’s a very good piece – I think it’s in The Washington Post. They’ve done a lot of digging and her family is — her husband sits in on almost all the meetings in the governor’s office, and as her chief advisor; and sits in meetings with oil companies, even though he works for one, and advises her. And the children are everywhere. She takes them everywhere. And they’re very much part of the package. And so she’s in … that has invited some of this. But I’m telling you, it’s got to be news when someone brand new comes along to be one of the four major figures in the election and announces their teenage daughter is pregnant.

LESLEY: And not married.

JOAN C: And it was circulating on the Internet that her latest baby was really her daughter’s baby.

LESLEY: Can I step back for one second, step back about a mile, and just look at what’s happened from a distance because, Cynthia, I didn’t go to the convention so I was watching it, you know, at home. And what strikes me today is how brilliantly skillful the Republicans have been through all of this. They had no idea when they … when John McCain chose Sarah Palin at the very last second because he realized, or they forced on him that he couldn’t have his first pick, Joe Lieberman. When he picked Sarah Palin, and all these stories came up because she hadn’t been vetted very much, that they’ve handled all of this with just remarkable shrewdness and political genius because this really could have blown up in their faces.

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Deni G
Thank you Country Girl, for this wisdom and beauty.
By Deni G on 09/11/2008 4:48 pm
Lucinda Herbert
Frannie, I think we are of the same ilk!
By Lucinda Herbert on 09/11/2008 9:01 am
E .
It doesn’t matter if Senator Obama’s supporters dislike Sarah Palin, live in fear of her ideology, find her inauthentic, weak, a joke, without merit, without experience, characterize her as backward or claim to be frightened by her etc. Scream it from the rooftops - type away on the blogs ‘til your fingertips bleed and it won’t matter because the Obama campaign legitimizes her by focusing on her, by failing to stay ahead of the GOP tactics and by floating unfortunate sound bites (at the very least seem to be) about Governor Palin out there for the GOP to grab onto and spin to their own advantage. Palin is a major threat - like her or not. Obama’s crew is distracted and shows no sign of understanding how to handle the “Palin problem”. To expect Senator Clinton to put her neck on the line while Obama’s crew is actually empowering Palin is unrealistic. The Obama campaign needs to get straight, run a progressive campaign built on their many strengths and stop being run into the gauntlet by the GOP machine.
By E . on 09/11/2008 11:44 am
mitzi morris
Right on Flynn. Hillary should never “take on” Palin. Obama has been totally off message by braying about Palin. He is running against McCain but he doesn’t know it, and Biden cannot stop saying “Ladies and Gentlemen” every 30 seconds in his speeches. Obama’s camp has been good at local politics and caucuses, but if Palin threw them, they were sorely unprepared for a clever GOP alternative to Hillary and should have had a game plan regarding surprises. Bill Clinton warned that the GOP would be ferocious and that thet know how to run elections even if they don’t know how to run the country. Too much fawning and conceit has left Obama appearing aloof,disengaged, and unable to attract women and blue collars. He’s got to show he feels our pain in simple language, and he’s got to work hard at this. Then he’s got to start clarifying exactly what he means by change. And he should forget Palin. Asking Clinton to attack Palin is not only a political loser, it is presumptive to even expect Clinton to do Biden’s job. Obama has to stop being on the defensive. This is his to win or lose.
By mitzi morris on 09/16/2008 6:10 pm
Sherrie Crews
Since the Republicans have made this election about Motherhood and Country First, why is the media not trampling on this to clear the way for real debate? By K. Pal on 09/11/2008 12:22 am” I loved your whole post but in answer to this particular question, the media is owned, and the only people who can afford to own the media are republican special interest corporations. Anybody who votes based on what they hear on the mainstream media is as ignorant about the candidates’ stances on the issues as somebody who has no access to any information.
By Sherrie Crews on 09/11/2008 6:53 pm
K. Pal
I think she’s saying it’s obvious color still matters for too many people, Deni
By K. Pal on 09/12/2008 8:55 pm
Suzanne Frazier
I admire the Obama campaign and the candidate for restraining from answering the REpublicans. What class they have. But I imagine that they have thought about some great “come-backs” and I imagine they have said them under their breath. I just hope that the Democratic party will continue to act “Presidential” and maybe we can stop all the “teenage name-calling.”…..Oh I hope. It time to take the election process to a higher level and a sane one as well. We can only hope.
By Suzanne Frazier on 09/15/2008 2:04 pm
Liz Dolan
One of the the things that shocks me is how Sarah Palin has been welcomed so warmly by conservative commentators, voices who normally show little respect for the needs of working mothers + PTA moms. I work in the world of talk radio and have been on the receiving end of this lack of respect. My sister Lian Dolan just wrote a piece about this that is posted at www.satellitessisters.com and BlogHer. Here’s the link. It’s the tale of the day all five sisters got dissed by Sean Hannity in one fell swoop. It’s entitled The First Question Sean Hannity Asked Me. http://www.blogher.com/first-question-sean-hannity-asked-me-heads-sarah-…
By Liz Dolan on 09/16/2008 8:11 pm
Mrs. Cheryl Hampton
C’mon ladies Sen. Clinton has a much bigger agenda than to even WASTE her time in ANY venue with Palin, We should NOT even speak of Palin in any comparison to Sen. Clinton & she doesn’t need to take her on.
By Mrs. Cheryl Hampton on 09/17/2008 8:08 pm
Pamela Munro
They have a saying in Hollywood that there is no bad publicity - so that goes for Palin’s family problems - gets folks to talk about her - But what about the ISSUES? The economy? And who are the people behind the curtain whom we DON’T elect? Please Obama let your lion ROAR.
By Pamela Munro on 09/18/2008 4:57 pm
S B
That McCain camp has given Obama so much ammunition of things to point at. I understand that Obama is trying to take the high road, but I really wish they would start swinging a little harder.
By S B on 09/19/2008 8:44 pm
Beth Cavalli
Palin does make a difference in the republician thought process and McCain needed her to do two things. Bring in the conservative side of his party and her sex was needed to balance him and his views. She does not help my picture of the Republicians, nor is a positive influence for women. If she became president, many of the rights we as women have would not be supported. Her view that shocked me was her non-abortion for any reason. Not for rape, nor for the safety of the mother. So, I could be attacked getting into my car in a parking lot and have no choice but to carry a child to term or die trying, just because I am a female of the species. Sorry, we don’t deserve to go back to before the time of sufferage. She would move the country too far away from the rights of women. Obama and Biden are more liberal, but, would support more or sustain the current level of rights of women. That is a route I can drive down. Women are smart enough to see that just voting for a woman is not the intelligent direction to go in. The issues and the reasoning skills that the candidates have are what we need to focus on. If we as a country can not look beyond sex or color of skin, then we will fail…Time to open our eyes, wipe off the make up and look at the naked truth. I keep hoping that one of these (possibles) will finally give more information on what they will be doing in action plan form, so that I can feel that my choice is well informed and will move us in the right direction. I wish that Charlie Rose was doing the debates….We might get some answers then….Charlie you can never retire you know, just long vacations!
By Beth Cavalli on 09/21/2008 10:46 pm
Belinda Joy
Why should Hillary have to “take her on” Because they both have breasts and vaginas in common? The only person that needs to take Sarah Palin on is Joe Biden. You would think she was running for president these days……
By Belinda Joy on 09/23/2008 2:48 pm
Eleanore Leslie
Seen this? Dear MomsRising.org Member, Yesterday, MomsRising.org members tried to deliver our letter—signed by over 21,000 people—to Governor Sarah Palin’s office in Washington, D.C. The letter simply asked, “Where do you stand?” on key issues of importance to moms and families. But, we were turned away at the door. When pressed, Palin’s staff told the group to drop the letter in the mail, refusing to acknowledge the crowd of moms (and adorable baby) who were in the office to hand deliver it. Snail mail can take a while, and we want to make sure that this election covers more than moose burgers and body surfing. All candidates—male, female, Democrat, Republican, and other—should speak to these issues. Some are, and others aren’t (1). So, we’re bringing our questions to the next level: getting our questions front and center in the Vice Presidential Debate on October 2nd. Email PBS Senior Correspondent Gwen Ifill, who will be moderating the debate, to tell her you want these important questions asked: http://www.momsrising.org/VPDebateQuestions The MomsRising.org team has written five questions we’d like to see posed to both Palin and Biden in that debate (see the questions below (2)). Let’s get these questions to the debate moderator so the American public gets a chance to hear both candidates, side-by-side, answering the same questions. When you click the link above, you’ll send a message to Gwen Ifill and cc both of the presidential campaigns to let them know that over 21,000 voters want to hear them talk about these issues (which impact millions of Americans) at the debate. Tell your friends to email Gwen Ifill, too! She needs to know how deeply important these issues are for millions of Americans—and that we demand they be addressed now! Thank you! —Kristin, Joan, Mary, Katie, Laura, Roz, Ashley,
By Eleanore Leslie on 09/29/2008 11:24 am
Cathy Hennessy
I don’t think anyone has to take Sara on. She is doing a fine job of self-imploding all by herself. She reminds me of Ross Perot. Everyone went nuts at first about the wacky little guy. When the shell chipped the party ended in a big hurry. Same thing’s going to happen to Palin.
By Cathy Hennessy on 10/02/2008 3:43 pm