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Question of the Day | 03/12/2009 11:00 pm

It's Friday the 13th. Does this date spook you?

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Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 03/12/2009 11:00 pm

Nothing Scares Candice Bergen – Except Meat

No. There are so many other things that might, but Friday the 13th is not one of them. This is in part because one of my smartest friends, Carol, told me it’s lunacy spun from some ancient ceremony involving the Knights of the Templar (that I can’t, of course, remember), and she brushed it aside without a look. And it seems to me, with no finger on any pulse, that people are not familiar with these old superstitions today.

They are a relic of another era. I don’t think anyone under 40 knows about sidewalks with cracks, 13 of anything, salt over your shoulder. They are almost like cheap literary contrivances. Something I do have oddly strong feelings about, bordering on the superstitious, is eating any kind of four-legged animal. Also some two-legged, like duck. I will never eat duck. And I haven’t eaten pork or beef (especially veal) for 35 years. This started because I suddenly started to find people carving into these bloody haunches of meat so disturbing. And after walking through the former huge market square in Paris, with hundreds of carcasses hanging side by side, it just repulsed me and I decided to keep my own half-assed vegetarianism. I don’t mention it at dinners. I just eat around the meat. I’m not a pain in the ass, but I cannot eat meat now — even some that looks and smells delicious, like barbecued ribs or prosciutto — without feeling like I am betraying animals.

So it is almost a superstition. I guess it’s more a personal idiosyncrasy. A principle I won’t break. Oh, one real and old-fashioned superstition I have really kept that is almost like warding off the Evil Eye is knocking wood. But I do that to never take anything good for granted and not to jinx anything by voicing it.

Jane Wagner

Jane Wagner | 03/12/2009 11:00 pm

Jane Wagner: Fear of Friday the 13th?

Now that you mention it, I suppose it will. I’m very suggestible, but, luckily, I often don’t keep track of what day it is. Thanks for reminding me.

Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s famous line — "The only thing we have to fear, is fear itself" — never seemed as consoling to me as it was meant to be. Having fear to fear, when you think about it, is very, very spooky. I don’t think of myself as being superstitious, and yet, if I should break a mirror, I feel a bit queasy in the pit of my stomach … despite myself. And, for a few minutes, I can be haunted by the fact that I have affronted fate in some shadowy way. But, if I truly had a rational mind, should the idea of fate, tempting it or affronting it, even come up?

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 03/12/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney's Flying Ritual

Not enough to keep me from flying down to Florida. I’m not superstitious although I still cross myself upon takeoff, Friday the 13th or not.
Lily Tomlin

Lily Tomlin | 03/12/2009 11:00 pm

Lily Tomlin's Numbers Obsession

I like to think I’m not superstitious; yet, I almost always reflexively toss spilled salt over my shoulder. I snatch hats off the bed. I used to be obsessive about the numbers 11 or 22. Years ago, I wouldn’t book a flight if the numbers added up to 11 or 22 or 33. I know, I know; if a flight should add up to these numbers, they ultimately add up to single digits: 2, 4 and 6. But that wasn’t my method of computation. I’ve even jumped up and pushed my way past the flight attendant and out the door of the plane because some series of numbers somewhere in the cabin or on the plane’s exterior added up to 11 or its multiple. Then, of course, I had to face all the friends and family who used to be allowed to the gate to see people off. "What’s wrong, Lily?" "Is something wrong with the plane?" Ay yi yi!

Anyway, adding up to a single digit as your final computation doesn’t wash for me. If the penultimate total before going to a single digit adds up to some form of 11, that’s where I stop: For instance, 9/11 adds up to 11 — 9 plus 1 plus 1 equals 11 — before it adds up to 1 plus 1 equals 2. If you’re obsessive, you make up your own reasons and rules. Imagine my reaction when 9/11 DID happen. Friday the 13th isn’t the spooky one here; it is I who am the spooky one. (Note: the nominative use of the pronoun ‘I’ for pleasure of the grammarians.)

I did pretty much get over this obsession with the number 11, even though one friend used to call me "Missus Elebens" and the name still pops up now and then. Years later, when I had to obtain a copy of my birth certificate, the copy was numbered 1122. Does anyone know if that would be the original number or not?

Let me add just for the record: Did anyone else learn the use of the nominative case of "I" by reciting the children’s ditty, "Barnacle Bill the Sailor"? Ditty to come.
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 03/13/2009 9:45 am

Liz Smith's Superstitions

I try not to be superstitious but a few things like a hat on a bed or walking under a ladder or throwing spilled salt over the shoulder I can’t resist. They are fun.

But sheer fear of the unknown is something I try to guard against. I was told as a child that Friday the 13th was unlucky because it was the day of the crucifixion of Jesus. (Oh, that good old, bad old, old-time religion!)

So, no. There are too many things to be truly worried about without my worrying about the date on a calendar devised by men.

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Lizzie R.
I am no longer supertitious, although I do carry the #8 in my wallet. After my son was killed I knew that the worst thing that could happen to me had happened, so no longer have any worries about bad luck, so Fri. the 13 is just Fri. the nothing to me.
By Lizzie R. on 03/13/2009 1:01 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Real life experiences always shed a different perspective on superstitions and ancient beliefs. Your expression of this loss in your life is moving and so sad. In some ways perhaps it has given you a kind of strength––I do hope so.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 03/13/2009 9:22 am
EKA -
Lizzie, you, unfortunately, know about the REAL bad things that can happen. I hope this Friday the 13 is a very lucky day for you.
By EKA - on 03/13/2009 10:38 am
Agyness O
Sending hugs to you Lizzie. I am so sorry that you had to experience something so terrible as that. Good luck to you from now on!
By Agyness O on 03/13/2009 5:24 pm
Lizzie R.
Thank you all very much for your kind words.
By Lizzie R. on 03/14/2009 1:04 am
Peggy Sue
I wasn’t until I saw this picture!
By Peggy Sue on 03/13/2009 1:10 am
Andrea Brandon
Didn’t even think about it until you mentioned it. No matter. Isn’t on my radar screen. Besides, it’s Daylight Savings Time, the sun is shining…….Bernie Madoff’s behind bars…….
By Andrea Brandon on 03/13/2009 3:08 am
James the Game
Yeah, I love Daylight-Saving Time (DST). I wish there were savings involved, I’d put them in my bank account!
By James the Game on 03/13/2009 8:06 am
EKA -
HA ! Don’t we all.
By EKA - on 03/13/2009 10:40 am
Patrice Baldwin
So it’s Friday the 13th, no biggie. And there’s no DST in Arizona, so we con’t get any savings. But Yayyy, Madoff’s in the slammer!
By Patrice Baldwin on 03/13/2009 2:56 pm
Rain in Minneapolis
Hey James, what’s the story with your open fridge in the picture?  Just curious.
By Rain in Minneapolis on 03/13/2009 6:12 pm
James the Game
WoW asked readers and stars last summer to put up photos of themselves with their refrigerators. Some stars, like Cynthia McFadden and Joni Evans, had the guts to do it. The others wimped out. I didn’t. Ha!
By James the Game on 03/13/2009 6:43 pm
f p
No—but walking under a ladder when a guy is painting up on it it just plain stupid?
By f p on 03/13/2009 4:39 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Speaking of scary things, I’ve been meaning to ask you, Frank, why you chose the name Beau Radley, he of the spooky neighbor in "To Kill a Mockingbird." I’m trying to make a connection here, but it eludes me.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 03/13/2009 9:27 am
Rain in Minneapolis

Years ago, a friend and I were watching To Kill A Mockingbird.  He had never seen the movie before.  Earlier that day we had laughingly agreed that "Robert Duvall was in every movie that was ever made".  At the end of the movie when the character Boo Radley was revealed hiding behind the door…we both looked closely and sure enough, it was Robert Duvall….too funny.   

 

By Rain in Minneapolis on 03/13/2009 6:18 pm