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Q & A | 06/18/2009 11:00 pm

To Hell and Back: A Conversation With Author Isabel Gillies

The author of the new memoir Happens Every Day talks about the pain of infidelity, the misery of divorce and three ways to move out of the darkness and into the light.
By Hilary Black

Editor’s Note: Isabel Gillies is the author of Happens Every Day: An All-Too-True Story, just published by Scribner. She is also known for her role as Detective Stabler’s wife on "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit," and for her cinematic debut in the film Metropolitan.

wowOwow.com: Your book explicitly describes a nightmare scenario: having your husband walk away from what you thought was a very happy marriage. If you had those years to do over again, is there anything you would have done differently?

ISABEL GILLIES: That’s a good question. Because my husband left me for another woman, people often assume I have a victim mentality: "He did this to me and there was nothing I could do." And it’s true, there really was nothing I could have done to change his mind. But looking back after four years, I now see that I was definitely participating in the destruction of the marriage in ways that I wasn’t aware of. So I suppose the only thing I could have wished for was to be older and wiser – to have the self-awareness I know now. But of course, that’s not possible.

If someone wants to leave, there’s not much you can do but watch them go. I really felt that was true in my case.

wOw: Do you think there are ways that women can prevent something like this from happening to them? Or is that just a fantasy?

ISABEL: If someone wants to leave, there’s not much you can do but watch them go. I really felt that was true in my case. So the only thing I could do was to figure out how I could make a future for myself and my children – a future that would also include my ex-husband, because, of course, he’s their father. So what I did then, and also do now, is try to live my life not looking back, but looking forward. And I think my advice to women in similar situations would be just that. After all, you only get one life. So it’s important to try to save your own life, and your kids’ lives.

wOw: How did you portray your divorce to your children? And what advice do you have for other women with young children who are navigating this kind of a sticky situation?

ISABEL: First of all, my children were very young – both under four. So in those first few days, when I could hardly get a handle on what had happened, they couldn’t either. They just felt that something was wrong. Once I got used to the idea and was able to put a sentence together, I went to a therapist and asked how I should handle it. And she told me to tell them their story, which I think is great advice. So I tried to tell them the truth about what happened, but in a way that they could understand it. I never gave them pat explanations, like "Mommy and Daddy just couldn’t live together anymore,” because that just wasn’t true – I could have lived with my ex-husband forever and ever. So instead I told them what little truths I could: "Mommy loves you, Daddy loves you, but Daddy just didn’t feel like he could be married to Mommy anymore." So I think the best advice is not to lie to your children, and respect how they feel about this new situation that they’re adjusting to. And even though it kills me to have put them through so much pain, I’m hoping their experience will give them strength – and put them a little ahead of the game in the future.

wOw: How do you feel about your ex-husband now? Have you forgiven him?

15 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

joan larsen

Read this book.  Why?  Because Isabel Gillies is as natural a writer, as honest a person, and the very style are her prose is so free-flowing that you have the feeling that Gillies is your friend, spilling all of her feelings as she realizes that her wonderful marriage-with-children has gone from one that was earth-shaking in its love to finding that her husband had found another woman.

All the feelings - and actions - one could go through spill out on the pages.  We find outselves drawn into her inner thoughts and how far she goes to get her husband back.  In this compelling memoir, those who have read it - like me - find that they could not put it down. 

Most of us would like to have a friend that we too could confide in, talk to, "spill anything" and have it understood.  Those women are rare and hard-to-find, and to find a young author who can bring us along on her journey, find parts of ourselves in her, tells us that this is going to be a book that we will take to our hearts and remember for a long long time.  The interview was great … the book stands alone. 

By joan larsen on 06/19/2009 12:38 am
L. C.

It’s good she has found peace with her past and is determined to build and to  live a productive and happy life for her and  her children.

Perhaps, in the future I’ll borrow the book from the library?

Good book review and post joan larsen.

By L. C. on 06/19/2009 1:13 am
angelyn palmer
hind sight is 20/20 in the moment we all do what we tink or feel is the right ting to doi have beat myself up a lot for doing things the way i did at the time but i wouldn’t be the person i am today if i hadn’t done hing that way  i kind of like the person i have grown into most days
By angelyn palmer on 06/19/2009 8:54 am
joan larsen

Love this quotation, and it seems to fit - not only your life - but all of our lives:

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:

If a man would register all his opinions upon love, politics, religion, learning, etc., beginning from his youth and so go on to old age, what a bundle of inconsistencies and contradictions would appear at last! -Jonathan Swift, satirist (1667-1745)

By joan larsen on 06/19/2009 8:57 am
J Holmes
Joan, So very very true. The hardest thing for me to learn "never say never".
By J Holmes on 06/19/2009 4:43 pm
Yadira Keroes

WOW! I didn’t resognixe the name but when I saw her face, I said,"That’s Elliots Stabler’s wife!" I am definitly reading her book. It is a painful thing to gothrough I assume. My s-i-l is going through it ans I can only imagine what she is feeling. I am going to recommend this book to her, maybe for healing or for laughs or a way to cope with the now & realness of their divorce.

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By Yadira Keroes on 06/19/2009 12:47 pm
C jay

It was a good interview, but painful experiences in life do leave people with the need to express them in some way, indicative of PTSD, which is not anything to shy away from but it takes outside expertise to resolve, and time.

With that in mind, those periods are best spent attempting to balance, and grow a new or renewed dedication to oneself, not necessarily publish a book on it, yet. Time comes when such may be quite in line, but until that time, self-healing (with help, or without as the case deems) comes first - and that takes as long as the relationship, plus more years.

 

By C jay on 06/21/2009 10:28 am
Pamela Kripke

It is always distressing. But the pain comes in different places, for different people. For me, the divorce was a relief, following years of unhappiness. I remember looking into the bathroom mirror when the last of his boxes left the house, and seeing a peaceful face. Me, but nothing I had seen in a long time. The distress came from the angry behaviors that came afterwards. 

Pamela Gwyn Kripke, http://likeasinglemom.wordpress.com

 

By Pamela Kripke on 06/22/2009 9:00 pm
Jane Rogers

Divorce is destructive in so many ways.  It tears you down and shakes your self-esteem, even more so when there is infidelity involved.  It affects your children in so many ways.  After my husband returned to his military assignment in Germany and I remained in the States to care for my cancer-stricken mother I thought we would be together soon as he was to request a reassignment.  Imagine my surprise when I was served with legal separation papers.  I am not sure why I was devastated, when I was honest with myself I knew there were problems in our marriage, he wouldn’t come home and I was often alone with 3 young children.  So it was that he left and it took me two years to get over the loss of my "happily ever after" and then I filed the divorce.  I remained angry for a long time.  The anger wore me out, kept me as a shell of a person that I was.  I entered into another marriage still carrying the hurt from the first, big mistake.  I finally had to make peace with this loss not just for myself, but for my daughters.  Once I did an amazing transformation came over me and I had respect for myself again.  I felt empowered and it was then that I could take stock in myself and my current marriage.  My "then" husband was not able to adjust my coming out of the cocoon of self pity I had put myself in and we found that it was just not meant to be.  I realized that my daughters needed to know that their father and I could put aside our issues and spend that wasted energy on coming together for them.  We have chosen to show them that we loved each other enough to have children together and we can love each other in a different way to raise our daughters together yet apart from one another.

By Jane Rogers on 06/23/2009 1:00 pm
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