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Q & A | 05/05/2009 11:00 pm

The Dysfunctional Dinner Table: A Q&A With Ruth Reichl, by Julia Reed

The bestselling author and editor-in-chief of Gourmet magazine talks to wOw’s Julia Reed about her bipolar mother, her new book, where she’s eating lately and more.
Ruth Reichl © Brigitte Lacombe

Editor’s Note: Bestselling author Ruth Reichl is the editor-in-chief of Gourmet magazine and the author of the bestsellers Tender at the Bone and Comfort Me with Apples. She has been the restaurant critic at The New York Times and the food editor at the Los Angeles Times. She recently spoke with wOw’s Julia Reed about her new book, Not Becoming My Mother; why she’s grateful in spite of her dysfunctional upbringing; where she loves to eat these days and more.

JULIA REED:
I really loved your book. And I had no idea what to expect. Since the title is Not Becoming My Mother, I was thinking it might be one long complaint, in which you bitch about every slight you’ve ever received — the book we could all write.

She did everything she could to propel me forward. She had a vision for what life for a woman could be.

RUTH REICHL: Well, I sort of feel like I have done a little bit of that in that past.

JULIA: Well this, I thought, was an extraordinarily generous, loving and ultimately useful book.

RUTH: I hope so. One of the things that has been really heartening is getting notes from people saying, you know, “I read your book and then I called my mother.”

JULIA: I was going to get to that but let’s talk about it now. There are a lot of bittersweet moments in this book, but one of the most bittersweet is that you came to discover all these things about your mother after she was dead, on what would have been her 100th birthday, when you finally opened the box with all her papers and letters. You must have regrets about the fact that you didn’t get to pick up the phone and call your own mother.

RUTH: Oh, it feels awful to discover that she was so giving, so generous to me, and that I didn’t know all of these things. And now, not to be able to thank her just breaks my heart.

JULIA: I would imagine it must have been at least a little cathartic to be able to thank her in this way.

RUTH: Yes, it feels good. I think we all want to be seen, and I think my mother would have loved that not only did I see her, but that I showed her to the world. And the fact that I know that this would have given her pleasure gives me pleasure. Still, it would give me a lot more pleasure if she were still alive and here to actually bask in the glory of being her.

JULIA: Let’s go back a little for the benefit of those folks who are going to be reading this and have not yet read the book. In your previous books you have shared what you call the Mim Tales, which is also the title of the first chapter here. They are stories from your childhood featuring your increasingly desperate and unhappy mom as an almost comic character. An example is the party your parents gave where you had to run around trying to keep the guests from being literally poisoned by your mother’s culinary efforts. As funny and wacky as they are in the telling, they must also have been extraordinarily stressful for you. But in this book you are able to get to the roots of the Mim Tales, by reading your mother’s own scribbled notes, all these scribbled pieces of paper that you found of hers, including the one you felt was a sign that you should keep going with the project, a note reading: “Who am I? What do I want? Why do I stand in my own way so often?” You write that she was an example of everything you didn’t want to be – and if you took that out of context it would be like, “Oh, my mother was so horrid I didn’t want to be her.” Explain what you mean by that, because it’s a much more generous and broader statement than it sounds.

8 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Elizabeth Bennett

I so look forward to gobbling up Ruth Reichl’s new book, just as I have all her previous books, and long before that, the lunches that she prepared at the Swallow in Berkeley. 

I am glad she will be in Berkeley for Mother’s Day.   I did notice that her luncheon the day before at Bookpassage is sold out.   Not surprising; she has a lot of pals in the Bay Area as well as a lot of admirers.  

Thanks for a wonderful interview, Julia!

By Elizabeth Bennett on 05/06/2009 12:39 am
joan larsen

In the wonderful way that a good interviewer works, Julia Reed has turned this into an intimate conversation between two women who are each open and free with the other.  We almost feel as if we were eavesdropping … and then getting caught up in such openness about a mother-daughter relationship that it often made us pause as we looked back on our own childhood and its long lasting effect on our own lives. 

What can I say except I would like to know each of you better as you are open to no-holds-barred questions with responses of such truth.  There are some of us who are able to bring out others, and in doing so expose bits of ourselves in the process.  This "read" was truly special, and I will look forward to this book.

By joan larsen on 05/06/2009 12:58 am
DL Simon
Great interview; I so enjoy reading both Ruth Reichl and Julia Reed.
By DL Simon on 05/06/2009 10:07 am
Deena B.
I think I need to read this book.
By Deena B. on 05/06/2009 9:59 pm
Chris Broersma

I was brought up by a mother who ended up in the psych ward many times for "nervous breakdowns," and I know she was bipolar, but the one thing we knew even with all of we children’s presently painful dysfunctional ways is that she supported us.  She came an supported everything I did as a high school actor and debater (My father ignored us while we were growing up, and when we were adults after their divorce desperately wanted us to surround him as loving children at every family dinner he had at the holidays.). 

By Chris Broersma on 05/06/2009 10:31 pm
Melinda Meador
By Melinda Meador on 05/07/2009 8:17 am
Melinda Meador

I just finished "Not Becoming My Mother".  It’s a beautiful book, and Reichl is so fortunate to have discovered how extraordinarily generous her mother was.  Not all mothers of that generation were; some mothers seem to have begrudged their daughters the freedoms they were denied.  Reichl has shared stories of her mother in earlier books and I have been fascinated by them over the years.  I am very glad we’ve been given this more complete picture of her. 

Thanks to Julia Reed for bringing the book to the attention of wowOwow readers.  And, Julia, you are so right about food in NO!

By Melinda Meador on 05/07/2009 8:28 am
Bonnie Katz

It’s so wonderful to read about how Reichl was able to sift through the difficulties of having a mother battling mental health issues to find the gems she also contained.  I also experienced the difficulties of having a Mom who battled with her own demons.  Through my own work of understanding how that effected the person I had grown into, I was also able to cherish her strengths and courage.  I have called on that strength many times in my lifetime. 

bonniekatz.com

By Bonnie Katz on 05/07/2009 4:04 pm