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On CBS Sunday Morning | 03/20/2009 4:00 pm

Lesley Stahl Takes an Inside Look at Mensa (Video)

Lesley Stahl

This week, instead of "60 Minutes," I have a story on "CBS Sunday Morning."

I’ll be taking a closer look at the geniuses of Mensa, the organization for people with high IQs. Mensa boasts more than 100,000 members in nearly 100 countries. Despite their large number, they’re a somewhat secretive group, so when I was invited to their annual meeting in Denver, I jumped at the chance. What did I learn about this highly intelligent group of people? Not what you’d expect. Among other things, Mensans love to play games, tell jokes and … look for dates.

Watch the video below for a sneak peek at this Sunday’s story, and make sure to tune in to CBS on Sunday morning. Check your local listings for the time by clicking here.

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albert miller
I worked with a guy who left Mensa because a genius I.Q.,and physical beauty are two rare qualities that don’t combine in a woman who wanted him.We had some great blow out discussions alone together in our computer room. No president of the U.S. should be less than genius level.
By albert miller on 03/21/2009 3:04 am
gretchen lowe
First of all, are you THE albert miller?  I am in Mensa.  I am a model/actor/writer/wahtever, and people think I’m pretty hot.  Overall, I really, really enjoyed meeting the people at these conventions.  They even have younger groups for younger geniuses.  Mensa also provides support for 2E’s, which are individuals with Ausperger’s or a variety of other similar disorders who also qualify for Mensa.  I have not meet my Prince Charming, but I have enjoyed the discussions and presentations at teh two events I have attended.  I love playing board games and if you can imagine the most friendly people of all ages (no one is excluded) playing board games, pigging out at the food bar, and generally having fun without regard to the issues of sex and attraction, then that is what I saw.  I did not feel uncomfortable as I would at many bars.  These people are not lecherous people looking for dates.  It would make sense given the similarities in aptitudes that some people might meet.  I’ve spoken to other men in Mensa who feel the same way, though about the pairing, and all I can say that it goes both ways.  I’ve seen many attractive pictures of women in Mensa who look for the same qualities, I’m sure.  I would suggest your friend invite attractive friends to take the test or keep going to meetings.  It seems like something I would enjoy for a lifetime, especially since it is all ages.  We network at multiple social networking sites and it is fun!
By gretchen lowe on 03/22/2009 4:21 pm
albert miller

THE? I don’t know. This guy was looking for the perfect woman. I asked "if you find her, suppose she’s looking for the perfect man"?

By albert miller on 03/22/2009 6:02 pm
gretchen lowe

I will say that the thing about the President being in Mensa sounds like a great idea.  If you are going to give someone power, then maybe they should have the rationality, confidence and intelligence that Mensans possess. 

 With regards to the people with the differences in social skills, it might have been a disability issue, since we do have member with 2E (twice exceptional) status.  I have horrible social skills though, and again if you are a genius and are called to do certain tasks and you do not need other people’s validation, then that area does get neglected.

By gretchen lowe on 03/22/2009 4:24 pm
Rainbow Power
I am impressed you got invited Lesley…I thought that just didn’t happen.  My youngest daughter was a member of Mensa but she thought it felt like a date group. She is a cute girl, but she never had a date through high school as the boys thought she was too smart.   But, her genius IQ got her lots of academic scholarships.  Her dad had a super high genius IQ but he had absolutely no common sense….she does have lots of common sense..and he still doesn’t. 
By Rainbow Power on 03/21/2009 6:24 am
Elizabeth Bennett
I remember going to a Mensa meeting back in the seventies and was told I could join, based on my SATs or GREs, I forget which.  It didn’t seem like that exceptional a group, actually.  The people were nice, but it seemed more like a dating group than anything else.  [Yes, there were puzzles everywhere, too!] And a large proportion of the people there were a bit shy of social skills.  Since I was dating someone already, it seemed silly to actually join and keep telling people, "I have a boyfriend," so I never did really join.  In retrospect, I think it makes no sense to form a social circle around an I.Q. test.  There are too many different types of intelligence, and many of them are difficult to test.  Testable intelligence is only one fragment of it. 
By Elizabeth Bennett on 03/21/2009 3:17 pm
Fiona DaBitch
Back in the early 1970’s I had a boss who thought he was special because he was a member of Mensa.  He was decidedly not special.  So in my 25 year old wisdom, I decided to prove to him that anyone could be as wonderful as he thought he was.  I took the Mensa tests and, much to my surprise, I was accepted.  My boss was not exactly pleased, although I was at the time.  I did go to one meeting and discovered that while the members were happy for new blood, they were decidely lacking in social skills.  I have found over the years that a high IQ doesn’t really matter that much.  When people find out that you are a "genius" they expect you to be smart about everything.  Thankfully I have reached an age where remembering where you left your glasses is the true test of brain power.
By Fiona DaBitch on 03/21/2009 3:56 pm
Don Jacobs
I’ve been a member of Mensa since 1990. It has helped me come to an understanding about my intelligence and how it affects my interactions with others. Prior to testing I had no idea that I qualified. I always had thoughts in my head which everyone told me were off the wall. I have since discovered other people who had ideas like mine, turned them into money. Now I’m paying more attention to my thoughts. One of the things that I also learned since joining is that being high IQ is not synonymous with genius and being high IQ doesn’t mean you know everything and make no mistakes. Babe Ruth had more outs than home runs in his career, yet he is known as the home run king. I’ve dated people in Mensa. I’ve run into social misfits. I’ve met a few who thought they were better than the rest of the world (though that’s very rare amongst the Mensans that I’ve known) but most of all I’ve made some wonderful friends. Mensa isn’t for everyone with a high IQ. You get out of it that which you look for, like anything else. If you have a need to hang with unusual thinkers it’s a good place to be, but it’s not the only place. For some it works and for some it doesn’t. Not everyone who’s tall needs/wants/chooses to join a club for tall people. If you do it’s because you have a desire to be with people who have similarities.
By Don Jacobs on 03/21/2009 7:23 pm
nanchan u

In the (paraphrased) words of Elwood P. Dowd (from the play/movie "Harvey")….

"I’ve been smart and I’ve been nice.  And in my opinion, it is much better to be nice."

Me too :)

By nanchan u on 03/22/2009 6:47 am
Don Jacobs
The implication is that the two traits are mutually exclusive. What about being smart AND being nice?
By Don Jacobs on 03/24/2009 8:28 am
Lila Kuh

I agree with the other posters here that a genius IQ doesn’t mean a lot by itself.  Social skills, common sense, and an average IQ will carry you much farther in life.

I have an uncle with a 157 IQ, no social skills and no common sense.  He is exceptionally smart in his own way, but alienates others with his pompous and self-centered attitude.  To top it off, he is often flat-out wrong about basic facts, mainly because he makes sweeping assumptions on various subject without listening to anyone else’s experiences… after all, what could they possibly know that he doesn’t?

By Lila Kuh on 03/22/2009 8:18 am
SURA B

Indeed, a high I.Q. is only that if it isn’t combined with social skills, and a bit of common sense. A MENSAN friend invited me to a lunch in Greenwich Village where I live where a group of MENSANs met. Conversation was not brilliant, social skills or plain charm lacking, and all the participants could do was  talk about themselves. Some tried to do their "smart spiel," but it was laughable. Always proving one is intelligent is a great burden. Get over it!

There are many highly intelligent people who don’t take the test or don’t want to qualify to join this self-segregated group; as a teacher, mother, and intellectual, my messge is: "Function in the world!" and stop focusing on brilliance, and do enjoy what you do; forget the BS.

 

 

 

 

By SURA B on 03/22/2009 9:08 am
Diana Gallegher
There are several high IQ societies out there, many of which have higher requirements than Mensa. They tend, as you might expect, to be smaller and more idiosyncratic. Triple Nine, for example, is only open to those who score in the top one tenth of one percent of the population. Some are even more exclusive. Google ‘uncommonly difficult iq tests’- that will give you some idea of what’s out there.
By Diana Gallegher on 03/22/2009 9:16 am
Della Della

When I was a child my mother was a psychology grad student at a university where they put me through all sorts of intelligence tests. I tested off the top but you wouldn’t know it to look at my life now decades later. Getting along in the world is much different from sensitivity to pattern and structure.

Growing up I discovered I will never be able to talk about those tests and experiences with people because they don’t care, don’t understand, don’t get anything from it and never will. So I’m ‘left’ to learn how to relate to ‘stupid’ people and find my way. It turned out completely different from what I expected.

My first job was as a teacher’s aid in a classroom for retarded children. I found the students had some great traits I picked up to deal with people. I found humor, restraint, and a never-ending struggle to life their life. I learned to appreciate any love or respect thrown my way. 

I still wish I could talk to someone about my childhood, but even my therapist—once I had the courage to bring it up—immediately challenged me to articulate the use or importance of my test results. I simply can’t impress anyone with my different brain or even talk about how it impacts my experience of life.

In contrast, as many of the posts here indicate, a kind word or favor goes a long way, doesn’t it? So what is intelligence?? Nobody cares that I solved the Rubik’s cube. They just want me to listen to and love them. Fine, so be it. 

By Della Della on 03/22/2009 1:01 pm
Rita@ Goldivas

A "secretive" group? I don’t know where you got that impression, Lesley! We were delighted to have you visit us in Denver.

Mensa obviously isn’t a very homogenous group, we have all personality types, some are more fun & interesting than others. While gifted children may have better support these days, many of us were not treated well in our early school years (either by classmates or teachers), so it’s good to be with people who can relate to that.

Certainly some Mensans date each other, but I wouldn’t say we’re really a dating group! It’s just a place to socialize, meet interesting people of all types, and have fun!

By Rita@ Goldivas on 03/22/2009 2:11 pm