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Lily Tomlin | 09/29/2009 2:15 am

Lily Tomlin Gets a Lesson in Class

Lily Tomlin
From about the age of seven, I was class conscious. I lived in a racially diverse and financially diverse neighborhood and I knew who was favored and who wasn’t and who had "nicer" material circumstances and who didn’t. It was the practice at our grade school in those days to stand and tell the class what you’d received for Christmas that year and it was gruesome because it was clear when a kid was lying or exaggerating out of shame, and I can remember being one of them. You might say you’d gotten a sweater and boots and a new coat and all kinds of things that you never showed up in. I can’t imagine what teacher would support such a practice today unless it was used anonymously to raise political and social consciousness and make it an illuminating exercise.

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Amanda Nelson

I went to a private school from first through eigth grades because my mother didn’t feel comfortable sending me to the local public school. We didn’t have hardly any money while I was growing up and the kids at the private school lived in McMansions. I remember getting made fun of for wearing shoes from Kmart (the girls literally snickered at me). These were kids who didn’t understand the value of a dollar and had parents who bought them designer clothes and expensive toys—if the kid looked at it, the parents bought it.

I was hurt then by the way these kids were given everything because I had so little. But, nowadays it seems unfair for people to buy lavish things of any kind when some can’t even afford to eat.

It’s unfortunate that our society is build around this model that make the rich richer and the poor poorer. 

By Amanda Nelson on 09/29/2009 10:02 am
P Rust

"But, nowadays it seems unfair for people to buy lavish things of any kind when some can’t even afford to eat."

Gee, I grew up without a lot of things.  It made me appreciate what I do have.  I worked very hard to attain what some might call "lavish things of any kind".  I struggled, planned, and worked long hours to be able to enjoy my life and give back to others.  I support many philanthropic organizations and charities.  I can do this because I have money; money, I worked for.  If given the choice, most people with "money" will do the same. 

By P Rust on 09/29/2009 2:00 pm
Amanda Nelson
Well, how very kind of you to help others out.
By Amanda Nelson on 09/29/2009 6:22 pm
P Rust
What would you have me do differently?
By P Rust on 09/29/2009 7:40 pm
Amanda Nelson
Nothing?
By Amanda Nelson on 09/29/2009 8:01 pm
Pearl Knight
I don’t think Amanda N. was trying to offend anyone personally. I read it as a philosophic statement.
By Pearl Knight on 10/01/2009 3:43 pm
Eyes Open

Thanks for that post p Rust, I agree with you. It is a fact that most charitable contributions are made by those in the private sector that do well for themselves. More people are helped than government mandates help. Anyone that struggles and succeeds should be compensated for those efforts.

I’ve never seen a poor man give another man a job. This class baiting has got to stop, it is just leading this country into making emotional votes and setting our entire country up for failure. Pretty soon there will be the government and the rest of us. 

By Eyes Open on 10/02/2009 12:07 am
Maggie W

I grew up in a small farming community.  We kids all looked alike in school.  Worn penny loafers or the dreaded oxfords.  Faded gingham dresses handed down from older sisters or cousins.  The boys’ jeans all had patches and then newer patches over the older ones.  I had a Dale Evans lunch box… my prized possession.

One day a drug store ( no pharmacies then) opened, and a new girl was in our third grade class.  I couldn’t quit staring at her.  She had little black shiny shoes with white socks.  Those socks had lace trim!  Imagine that!  She had a dark pink dress with a big bow in the back and another bow in her hair.

That night at dinner, I kept talking about the new princess in school. Talking and talking. I couldn’t shut up about the princess.  It was the first time I saw my mother with tears in her eyes.

By Maggie W on 09/29/2009 10:58 am
Carole Del Monte
I think that today a frivolous lawsuit would arise because of that unfair & vulgar practice.  We used to compare notes with our friends, & that was fun.  We were pretty much on the same level in lifestyle.  Things have gone wild & out of hand since then.  Kids have always been cruel & sometimes mean girls never grow out of it.  I cannot imagine any of our teachers being so thoughtless as to make us go through such an experience. 
By Carole Del Monte on 09/29/2009 11:18 am
kermie b

It hit home when Lily said: "It was the practice at our grade school in those days to stand and tell the class what you’d received for Christmas that year and it was gruesome because it was clear when a kid was lying or exaggerating out of shame, and I can remember being one of them."

In my family if we got a Christmas present at all, it was to be shared (no arguments—my father was old-school scary), and thus, not really one’s own present.  I recall vividly grade school show and tell, where I kept bringing in the only toy I owned outright—my teddy bear.  One kid made fun of me because I had no other toys and tried to tear Fuzzy’s nose off.  I cried that day when I went home, my mother calmed me down, and promptly sewed the dangling nose back on.  I have had that bear since I was five years old.  I am now 53 and it is one of my most precious possessions.  Fuzzy is beloved, presently a threadbare bear, and he reminds me of the sterner stuff from which I came.  A little worse for wear, both of us, but very stubborn in the belief that possessions do not make the woman.

By kermie b on 09/29/2009 11:20 am
Pearl Knight
So right. I have a friend who has a hand-made bear that was his great-grandfathers - his great-great grandmother made it when he was born. It is one of the most cherished items in his household. It has been through the family all the way down to him - repaired and patched over decades, with new eyes and its of course worn and faded - but it’s still priceless. They could get over it if their jewelry box was stolen. But not if Ed the Bear was.
By Pearl Knight on 10/01/2009 3:47 pm
steve-annie nyc
I also got a lesson in class distinctions when we went back to 4th grade after Christmas vacation.  The teacher didn’t ask, but all the kids were talking about what they got for Christmas.  This was in the early days (2nd year, I think) of busing for "integration" in NYC public schools.  That’s in quotes because their idea of integration was having 4 kids per class of about 40 bused in from the nearest public housing project.  One of those kids sat next to me in class and I asked him what he’d gotten for Christmas.  He looked embarrassed and said he’d gotten the cufflinks he was wearing.  I asked what else, and he said that was all.  I’m one of those people who always think of the perfect response way too late.  But that time I looked at the cufflinks and said, "Wow, they must be really special cufflinks," and he just beamed.  I will always be grateful to whoever or whatever put those words in my mouth.
By steve-annie nyc on 09/29/2009 11:25 am
Simone St. Cyr

Lily. I’m really sorry to have to intervene like this, but I simply cannot believe that Santa Clause stop servicing Detroit that early on.

By Simone St. Cyr on 09/29/2009 11:35 am
Karen R
That time frame is about right. Things in Detroit started getting noticeably funky a few years after that.
By Karen R on 09/30/2009 4:40 pm
Sherry Dale
I grew up in a upper middle-class.  We weren’t rich, but we weren’t poor either.  The friends I hung around with had very little, my dad use to show his love by handing me money.  I was always pleased to share what I had, I always brought stuff to school and just handed stuff out.  Friends that hung out with me were always treated to lunch.  When I went over to less fortunate kids, that didn’t even phase me, I always envied everybody else because their parents were loving and there for them.  So, the  moral of the story, I’d rather be poor and loved and wanted then rich and neglected and unloved.
By Sherry Dale on 09/29/2009 11:46 am