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Flash! From Liz Smith | 09/22/2009 2:00 pm

LIZ SMITH FLASH! A Goodie From Newsweek

Liz Smith

Stealing from one of my favorite magazines! Sit back and enjoy. Then, be a sport and subscribe to the newly energized Newsweek magazine. It continues to surprise us weekly with deep, unique opinions and some very clever makeup and new ideas. For instance, this week Sarah Kliff researched the question: "Why Are All the REALLY Old People Women?"

She gave the answers too, even though more boys than girls are born each year. To wit:

THE DANGER YEARS: The difference between male and female death rates peaks between ages 20 and 24 — during which time men are six times as likely to be murdered and five times as likely to die of a non-automobile accident.

TOXIC TESTOSTERONE: The hormone increases levels of bad cholesterol (known as LDL) and decreases levels of good cholesterol (HDL) while estrogen does just the opposite.

GUNPLAY: Whether it’s homicide, suicide or by accident, men are five times more likely to die by firearms than women.

DROP-DEAD DISEASES: Fatal conditions like cancer and heart disease are common among men, while women are more likely to suffer from chronic nonfatal conditions such as arthritis, osteoporosis and autoimmune disorders.

OVERWHELMING EMOTIONS: The tendency to ignore signs of depression and emotional distress may account for the fact that, between the ages of 75 and 79, men are nine times more likely to commit suicide.

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michele T
I sat in church last Sunday and there was a pew full of 8 plus eldery woman and I looked at my husband and I said OMG where are all the men?  He kinda smiled and said well you run to the doctor all the time and  I do not!  I know from the past he has had some things that could have killed him if I have not pushed him to go, as for me, I have no problem going to the doctor!
By michele T on 09/23/2009 1:34 pm
Maggie W

I find that back story to be interesting, especially the fact that men between 75 - 79 are nine times more likely to commit suicide.  Whew ! That is an incredibly high number.  I believe no one likes to live alone, but women seem to adapt better than men.  When my sister in law is out of town for just a weekend, my brother is lonely and usually comes over or calls.  While many women crave occasional " alone time", men don’t usually have that wish.  Also, when my friends divorced after a long marriage, it was the man who was adrift in loneliness longer than his wife.

As for the other stats, while women tend to be, over all, more proactive… men are more reactive, especially when young.   How many times has a mother or wife asked her husband or son, " What in the world were you thinking?"  No answer because he was not.

I have looked at the picture on that page but only see the young woman.  Anyone see an old woman? 

 

By Maggie W on 09/23/2009 1:38 pm
ellyn Collins

My 93 year old grandmother (still very frisky) had surgery this past winter and needed to go to a rehab center / assisted living facility for a month.  Out of the 100 or so residents of the center, maybe 5 or 6 were men. It was amazing to see so many spunky old ladies in one place!

Also, my grandmother is one of 5 sisters. Although my grandmother is the longest living, all of her sisters lived until their late 80’s.  She also has two first cousins that are both in their 90’s.  It must be a combination of hard work, clean living and good genes! 

 

By ellyn Collins on 09/23/2009 1:49 pm
joan larsen

My own thoughts:  I have to disagree with Newsweek on this one.  .  . and I wish the author of the article would interview my men friends of a certain age - edging on 100 or more - and NOT men I would consider "elderly" or "aging" either.  What they are are "brilliant" - shimmering, shining lights who have phenonemal memories (that are beginning to put mine to shame.)  They e-mail me, challenging me to respond to their thinking on political issues, social issues, more.  The Bostonian - who is 100 - has a book that has been taken for publication on the issue of age.  Another, 94, does not miss a cultural activity in Tucson, doesn’t need to be manhandled to the symphony, and can blow me away with his discussions on his return.  Not enough?  I have more.  Another has a major book/ encyclopedia that will hit the stores in December.  Again, his e-mails out-do those of most of my women friends.  In each case, in looking back, I found them intellectually stimulating and desirably "older" when I was young.  Liz has made me think about this subject.  I think my response is that their own "love of life" and continual quest for knowledge has kept them active as one could be - and interesting to be with - as who doesn’t want to be with someone whose conversation is mesmerizing? — as it always was.  They are wonderful companions and "age" is forgotten - well, except to say "how do they do this?" 

How do I feel about "older men" now?  These men - throughout my life - have been a  precious gift to me.  They tell me that life isn’t over until it is over — not with a "thunk" at a certain age.  They know they are loved - not just by me - but all who know them.  The added factor they may have is having people around them who love them, who want to be with them, are excited to hear what they have to say, and to find them never stopping squeezing out all the areas of our world for all they are worth. 

My thoughts about women — well, that is another story for another time.  Liz, an interesting subject … and I think you probably could match me and more with the "older men friends" you know.  I think I am right - as I know Liz!!!  

By joan larsen on 09/23/2009 2:04 pm
Mary E. Sayler
My mother died 19 years ago after fighting Ovarian Cancer for 10 years.  She was only 71 years old.  There was one point during those 10 years that I had both of my parents in the hospital at the same fighting Cancer.  Dad survived his Prostate Cancer and died this January at 95 years.  His family has a long life span both men and women so I think that genes play the bigger part.
By Mary E. Sayler on 09/23/2009 2:28 pm
Dona Howlett

Just a thought……

If we as mothers would raise our little boys to express their feelings more, they might stay healthier.

I really get irritated when I hear a young mother tell her young son to stop crying……guit acting like a baby. Making them feel ashamed to act like a feeling human being. Men hold in too much stress………

 

By Dona Howlett on 09/23/2009 8:13 pm
Chris Glass`
These present statistics may be less genetic and more about lifestyle. It will be interesting to see if the numbers change in the next fifty years as women participate in more hazardous occupations. We may find their stress levels rise as stay at home husbands attain longevity.
By Chris Glass` on 09/23/2009 8:55 pm
Susan Crawford

I have to say that there were a LOT of good points made in the responses to Liz Smith’s summation of the Newsweek article. I think that very often, women outlast men in the longevity stakes because they are more apt to admit that they have some issues that need fixing, and for which they need expert help. From admitting that we just don’t feel "right", and decide to take ourselves off to see our health care provider to deciding it’s time for some counseling to deal with an emotional or family issue - we get out there very often and ask for help and seek out those with the goods to provide it.

And I think, as others do, that women are more apt to express emotions like sorrow, or depression, or frustration. I know lots of elderly women who swear by the healing power of a "good cry" as my mother used to call it. Shed some tears, then take a deep breath and gosh all get out, a whole lot of the time you really DO feel better! But men are not as free, either culturally or in their own minds, to indulge in the luxury of emotions. And so often men seem unwilling or unable to even verbalize a problem, let alone seek help.

Now, of course, this is a huge, broad generalization - there are thousands of exceptions, and I’m pleased to know and love quite a few of the long-lived men out there who enrich my life and the lives of so many others. But those cultural stereotypes cling on: the "strong, silent type"? The "loner"? The "tough guy"? Maybe these stereotypes play well on film (viz Gary Cooper, Bogie, Robert Mitchum, et al), but in real life, I think adherence to those so-called norms probably does have a ripple effect that may contribute to a shorter life span.

I think that in the realm of friendship, women may also have a bit of an advantage. We TELL one another stuff! We share all sorts of confidences, we consult our friends about our problems, our hopes, our fears, and we probably are acculturated to do this with MUCH greater ease and comfort than men, sad to say. Dona Howlett hit it right on the head: when little boys are told over and over that "big boys don’t cry", or "act like a man" and cover up your feelings - harm is being done. There’s just so much a person can "suck up" before it has to come bursting out somewhere. Sadly, it often bursts out in men in ways that are unhealthy: higher cholesterol; more stress; ulcers …

But I have to say that I treasure each and every older man in my life - the wise shamans; the old codgers; the silver foxes - what would we do without them? Life would be narrower and shallower. So men, here’s my advice: take care of yourselves physically and emotionally; eat right and get your rest; enjoy a good cry now and then; and most of all - stick around so we can enjoy the WHOLE ride together. The rollercoaster is WAY more fun with a seatmate to cling to!

By Susan Crawford on 09/23/2009 9:05 pm
Rachel M
My grandfather lived till 91 years old. He only started to not being able to live independently for the previous 2 years. He was a widower twice. He was married 45 years to my grandma, had an awful girlfriend for a number of years who he refused to marry (thank god) and his second wife who was a close friend with her husband at that time with my grandfather and grandmother. He was married to my "2nd" grandma for I am not sure how many years but he nursed her after she developed Alzheimer and her own kids and step kids (from her previous marriage) would not do anything for her. My grandpa was suppose to get a bit of money from her step son but he refused to give him that. I was happy that he got to spend the second part of his life with someone who loved him and someone that we could love to. The one thing about my grandfather is that nothing could keep him down and even though he regretted alot about his marriage to my grandmother (the way he did not tell her that he really loved her before she died). He still kept his dignity through it all. My mom may have not liked him but to me he was a superstar who even though when I said that I loved him - he would tell me that everybody makes mistakes with a huge smile on his face. I really miss him.
By Rachel M on 09/23/2009 9:21 pm
Laura Ward
The other thing I noticed is that tall men don’t live long either. It’s the shorter men that live longest. A few tall men live long, but it’s mostly shorter men.
By Laura Ward on 09/29/2009 1:26 pm