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FLASH! From Liz Smith | 10/30/2009 3:40 pm

LIZ SMITH FLASH! A Question From National Review

Liz Smith
Here we present a  religious question from the opinion and editorial pages of the National Review magazine. And it’s a very good one, I think.

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November issue of National Review: "We all know that Jihadists believe that pious Muslim males will be rewarded with 72 virgins in paradise. What will those virgins actually be like, though? Saudi cleric Sheikh Muhammad al-Munajid has been telling us on Saudi Arabia’s Al-Majd TV.  Main point: They will be white. Very white. ‘Allah said that the black-eyed virgins are beautiful white young women … whose skin is so delicate and bright that it causes confusion. They are like precious gems and pearls in their splendor, their clarity, their purity and their whiteness.’

"We (at the National Review) confess to some slight confusion ourselves. Is there a separate afterlife for pious but unwhite Muslim females? If not, where do their souls go? If so, what’s their reward? Perhaps we all get new bodies in paradise, with the gals guaranteed to get white ones. Another possibility is that Sheikh Muhammad al-Munajid is a gibbering lunatic.

"This is, after all, the man who last year issued a fatwa against Mickey Mouse, whom he described as "one of Satan’s soldiers.’" 

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I just love  fanatical religions, don’t you? They make so much sense. 

130 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

Linda Myers
My beliefs are far from mainstream, although parts of how I was raised still come through with my own interpetation. One phrase used in the bible says "believe in me". To me, the "me" is the fabric of the universe. Religions all over the world took that phrase and teaches the right how in doing so. I believe you will meet your greatest desire of what you were seeking, if to the muslims that is more virgins than they can imagine - so be it! Everyone deserves thier highest fantasy I guess.
By Linda Myers on 10/30/2009 4:12 pm
Nattjenta Moon
He is, as you said, a "gibbering idiot."  If we all get our hearts desire, then Hugh Jackman, and Jake Gyllenhall are already spoken for.
By Nattjenta Moon on 10/30/2009 4:18 pm
E .

@ Nattjenta Moon -

Hugh Jackman.  Uh huh.

Is that you in the picture?  Your hair is beautiful.

Wishing you a great weekend,  E

By E . on 10/30/2009 8:19 pm
Bonnie O

Not all of us knew that pious Jihadists would receive 72 virgins in the afterlife, let alone that they would all be white with dark eyes.  This must be a satirical article from National Review.  Where in the Koran would be found such language?

These beliefs cannot be orthodox religious thinking but fanatical thinking from men.  Greedy, self-absorbed, women-hating men who attach themselves to Islam in order to provide some legitimacy to their fantasized sexual proclivities.

By Bonnie O on 10/30/2009 4:29 pm
Lovely  Soul

Hi, Liz, I don’t normally engaged in any conversations relating to religion or political affiliations but this one really grabbed me. So pious Muslims will get 72 really,  really white balck-eyed virgins as a reward. Based upon my knowledge and observations, Arab woman are mostly non-white in appearance. So does it meant that the pious Muslim man will have to have relationship outside of his natural race and color. This is so scary for caucasian woman who are virgins. Do you also know if they are also age restrictions to the virgins. Some 70 or 80 years old white woman are virgins though? Do they qualify?

But anyway, I find this belief so far-fetched and out of this world, so to speak.

So white woman, don’t save your virginity or else you end up as one of those 72 virgins to be given away to some Muslim fanatic.  That is really scary. One man getting 72 virgins as a prize. Do you honestly think he could handle it? Oh, let me stop right here. I am laughing so hard. My friends are all having a laughing party. Liz, you are really something. 

By Lovely Soul on 10/30/2009 4:45 pm
Linda Myers

And what is he going to do when his gender as he knows it, is gone when he get’s there? Not sure that would be heaven with 72 virgins and no tool. lol

By Linda Myers on 10/30/2009 5:25 pm
Sandy B
FYI- Not all Arabs are Muslim and most Muslims are NOT Arab (granted they are not white either-but not Arab).  Also, the virgins are not from planet earth.  They are heavenly virgins- though of course it is all nonsense anyhow, and I challenge this man to show anyone where God says they’re white.  ‘Cause he didn’t say it.
By Sandy B on 10/31/2009 5:47 pm
STACY SEARS

Lovely, thanks for making me laugh.  This article brings to mind the Jeff Dunham skit in which the puppet Walter says…forget 72 virgins, give me women who know what they are doing (I did clean that up a bit).. and his skit with puppet, Achmed the dead terrorist, who looks at the audience and says…these are my virgins?!!

 

What happens to married Muslim women????  They get left alone for eternity?  Most guys I know can’t keep up with one woman let alone 72 of them!

By STACY SEARS on 11/03/2009 2:42 am
Mary Quite-Contrary

Liz, you are a brave, brave woman for bringing this National Review article to a wider audience.

Things like ‘this’ need to go viral on the web to try and give ‘back story’ to those who have been preached that we must be ‘tolerant’ of everything and suspicious of nothing…if it is all conveniently wrapped up in ‘freedom of religion.’

The interpretations of the Koran, which allows, provokes and manifests the profound hatred of women, and all things ‘non Islamic’ must be called out for what it is.  A violent culture, destroying generations and entire regions of the world.  The intolerant Shar’ia (stone the rape victim; honor killing is good and just for the males ‘wronged’ by a daughter’s indescretions; public lashings and stoning for women who uncover their faces) must be stopped in the West.  Period.  It cannot coincide with cultures and systems of government where all are judge equal under the law.

The same ‘scholars’ who promise the 72 ‘ultra white virgins’ also promise that there is no other religion (or absence of same) that can exist with Islam.  Period. 

Where and when will ‘moderate’ believers come forward and disavow the maniacal? 

By Mary Quite-Contrary on 10/30/2009 4:51 pm
Laura Ward
Sometimes I wonder if religion is really serving us a purpose when some people distort belief in God by using it to hurt to people, or in this case, promising sex. Wish people would follow the simple golden rule. Treat everyone the way you want to be treated and the whole world would be wonderful. You don’t need a religion for that. Just common sense.
By Laura Ward on 10/30/2009 5:11 pm
KatyDid Wells

Here, Here… I use my common sense as well as my moral center to live each day and to treat others with respect.

I’m a non-believer myself, but I’ve always thought that religion still has its place in the world for those who want and/or need it.  When given more thought though, just how many lives are "saved" by religion vs. how many lives are lost vs. extremism in religion?  The intolerance that reigns as a result of religion is beyond anything else this earth has ever known. 

By KatyDid Wells on 10/30/2009 6:46 pm
Bethany Christian
Here, Here to you also.  I could not have said it better myself.
By Bethany Christian on 10/31/2009 1:04 pm
Helen Moran
Katydid, I could not agree with you more. As a student of History, all I can find is useless slaughter and intolerance for anyone who does not agree with a conquerer’s religion. I have often said more death and destruction has been caused by religion than any other reason. Any religious beliefs you may should be personal and private. You know, between you and your God. A lot less grief that way.
By Helen Moran on 11/02/2009 12:39 am
KatyDid Wells

Yet alas, Helen, "personal and private" is something that religion rarely is.  Most religions teach the complete opposite - share the word and convert others and if they are extremists, death to those who believe differently.  As it is, it always has been, and it always will be… sadly.

By KatyDid Wells on 11/03/2009 2:34 am
Helen Moran
Hi Katydid, you definitely know history. More horrible crimes against humanity have been committed in the name of someone’s God, than for anyother reason. Someone recently said to me that this country was founded on a belief in God, and I cringed. I told her this country was founded on the premise that all men were created equally, and had the right to practice their religion without fear of censure. We are still struggling with those concepts and how to apply them everyday. ALso, to everyone’s surprise, most of the founding fathers, were not so much religious as they were deist. They believed in a supreme power or God, but that was their personal belief. They were a lot smarter than we. Just for fun, think of two groups of people in the middle ages. One group baths daily, reads, does math and tolerates people enough to let them practice their own brand of religion. The other group considers bathing a weakness, and believes once a year is enough. Washing is okay, bathing not. They are mostly illiterate, leaving books and reading and writing to a select few. And there was NO tolerance for any religious beliefs besides theirs. THe second group was European Christians, and the first was Moslems. These are undisputed facts. I was raised Catholic and was shocked to read how callous we christians were and are. Sorry for going on, but it makes me feel good knowing there are others out there who see and recognize the hypocrisy. Thanks
By Helen Moran on 11/03/2009 10:41 am