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The Liz Smith Column | 10/09/2009 5:00 am

Liz Smith: John Cleese Divorces the Madoff-Mills Love Child?

What else is in Our Gossip Girl’s pre-weekend roundup? Brooke Shields too much – or too young? – in the nude … And Letterman marches on.
John Cleese/Image: Flickr/Paul Boxley
"I’m paying $20 million to a woman I believe is the love child of Bernie Madoff and Heather Mills!"

So exclaims the former "Monty Python" star, John Cleese, wherever he goes these days with his latest one-man show. He says he needs money because of the expensive divorce settlement with Alyce Eichelberger, a woman he wed back in 1992. Mr. Cleese calls this European extravaganza his "How to Finance Your Divorce Tour." He refers to his psychotherapist wife’s divorce lawyer as being one of the monstrous Orcs from "The Lord of the Rings."

John, age 70, likes to startle his audience by saying, "Imagine how much I would have had to pay if Alyce had contributed anything to the relationship – such as children or a conversation."

Mr. Cleese is a cult hero all over Scandinavia, where they love reruns of "Monty Python" and "Fawlty Towers."

***

You can tell I’ve been reading the British newspapers where sometimes the gossip about show business is so much richer than here in the U.S. For instance, the idea of the Tate Modern Gallery taking down a nude photo of Brooke Shields shocked everyone.

It may have been serendipitous, but really it wasn’t a comment on the controversial arrest of director Roman Polanski. But the gallery did have a picture of our Brooke, age ten, heavily made up and standing totally nude in a bath tub. It had been taken by New York lensman Richard Prince and was titled "Spiritual America" for his exhibition "Pop Life: Art in a Material World."

The background of this? It was a photograph of a previous photo made by Garry Gross who had been commissioned by Brooke’s mother back when perhaps she wasn’t thinking straight. Brooke made an unsuccessful bid to buy the negative back in 1981.

Child porn fighters swore that "Brooke could not have given informed consent to its being used. It must be bordering on child pornography. It is certainly not art." The British cops agreed.

***

I thought David Letterman came off real well in his second outing since the late unpleasantness, and then he had his pals Steve Martin and Martin Short come on after some "mea culpa" stuff and everybody had a grand time acting as if nothing has happened.

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Image: John Paul Filo/CBS ©2009

The Brit’s William Langley described Letterman like this – "his just-plain-Joe persona was a little bent out of shape." The writer went on to describe the talk-show host as "sharp and pesky" and said that Oprah Winfrey’s mood of forgiveness-for-all-things works in Letterman’s favor. He recalled Letterman’s words after his first divorce in 1977 from Marcia Cook: "I should rot in hell for what I put her through." He described Letterman in his early beginnings as "hard-up and considered dangerously eccentric," writing that Dave has kept his private life a closed book until now and saying he seemed "happier to be alone with his anxieties inside the elegant Connecticut fortress that he calls home … he can best be appreciated in the context of his shortcomings. They were on display again last week, and even if his audiences keep laughing, he may never quite be the same again."

I was personally amazed that so many readers e-mailed me the same words after we wrote on David Letterman’s troubles. They chorused: "Who cares?" Well, as the New York tabloids have kept running story after story and as Letterman has millions of fans and viewers and is one of CBS’s big moneymakers, I am here to tell you that quite a few people care a lot.

My own verdict: Maybe next week nobody will even be talking about this or remembering it. But sharp-eyed critics will observe his every gesture and comment in the future on the basis of this little scandal of questionable ethics.

And isn’t it odd that in a Manhattan world where David Letterman has met the most divine stars and women in the world, he was too lazy to go outside his own workspace for companionship? In all the time I have known of David Letterman, only once have I ever even glimpsed him in a normal social circumstance.

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Karen R

"And isn’t it odd that in a Manhattan world where David Letterman has met the most divine stars and women in the world, he was too lazy to go outside his own workspace for companionship?"

Well, excuse him for preferring to hang with the normal folk (who seem to be the Manhattan equivalent of the great unwashed).

By Karen R on 10/09/2009 6:02 am
Baby  Snooks

"I’m paying $20 million to a woman I believe is the love child of Bernie Madoff and Heather Mills!"
_______________________

After that comment, it will probably be $21 million.

 

Child porn fighters swore that "Brooke could not have given informed consent to its being used. It must be bordering on child pornography. It is certainly not art." The British cops agreed.
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For those of us who remember it, it was not child pornography but merely a sign of the times.  And of the times coming. And more Jon Benet Ramsey than Samantha Geimer. What I meant about our "mores" of the times with regard to the "Roman thing" and this is yet another example of how we create our own monsters. And certainly did back then. Brooke at least always had more common sense than her mother. She at least knew the difference between a photo-shoot and something amiss. But then perhaps we all do. Even if we don’t want to admit it.  I always thought she drew more attention to it than she should have by trying to buy it back.  It is, really, quite innocent in itself.  The problem, as always, simply in the eye of the beholder.  So maybe the London cops have dirty minds.

By Baby Snooks on 10/09/2009 6:24 am
Lila Kuh

I agree with you on the Brooke Shields thing.  Nude people - children or adults - are not, of themselves, porn. 

When we were stationed in Germany I got a bit of a wake-up that first summer from seeing scores of nude people in Frankfurt’s Grunberg Park.  Whole familes - all ages from little children to the grandparents - would just be hanging out in the buff, eating, drinking, and napping.  And in spas, everyone is expected to be nude.  This goes on all over the country; you would never see these people walking down the street naked, but nudity has its proper place.  The human body is neither shameful nor mysterious, and frankly, they probably have a healthier attitude as a result.

On the other hand - the children are not generally made up like little Lolitas.  Is it the make-up that makes Brooke’s bathtub image so offensive to some?  And if so - why DO we allow these child beauty pageants?  Now those creep me out.

By Lila Kuh on 10/09/2009 7:11 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Interesting, Snooks, that you should mention the Ramsey girl, as I was just thinking how that whole creation of child seductiveness resonates in our culture. Having had a thread full of Polanksi these last days, I got to thinking about how segments of our society pursue this premature sexuality. Dressing little girls up to look like sirens, training them to wiggle and gyrate up and down the stages. There are many mothers who, pass their prime, dress down to their daughters, emulating them rather then the other way round. I recall the girls I counseled when working with disturbed kids, and how so many of them, as young as thirteen, were already sexually active, and talked about it as though it was nothing really serious––"How did you feel? " I remember asking one after she told me about a particular  sexual encounter, "Nothin much––but then I never really do, I just like to be kissed."  Projection of our own fears, prejudices, and anger onto  these very emotional issues causes much passionate responses. But the hypocisy surrounding these issues in our culture should be recognized and evaluated as such. 
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 10/09/2009 10:07 am
Baby  Snooks

We really are having to deal with our "mores" finally and with the hypocrisy - Lolitas, and Lolitos, are very much a part of our social milieu and we are fookling ourselves if we don’t think they are.  

We tell our children to act responsibly.  And then hand them condoms and tell them to have "safe sex."  A mixed mesage if ever there was one.  Our laws are not much better.   The "standard" of child versus adult at least sexually is 13.  A 13 year old is a teenager and can consent even if not legally which is the basis of our statutory rape laws.  A 12 year old is a child and cannot consent at all. And yet the reality is a growing number of them do. 

By Baby Snooks on 10/11/2009 9:56 am
S A
It ‘forgiveness-for-all-things’ really Oprah Winfrey’s signa? I ask because I really don’t know. I believe that being able to accomplish that is admirable. I find it a struggle at times. It certainly is the highest courageous act in my opinion.
By S A on 10/09/2009 6:35 am
Baby  Snooks

I can only speak for myself but I have found that there are things in life that only god and your mother can forgive and sometimes, well, perhaps it is wise to always be nice to your mother. 

Years ago someone was betrayed in the worst way by a man she loved and trusted, there is nothing like reading in a gossip column that the man you’ve lived with for 15 years is having an affair with someone else, and she made a comment that really sums up "forgiveness" best -  it’s not a matter of forgiveness, it’s a matter of not wanting to see or talk to them again as long as you live. I doubt his mother forgave him either. 

By Baby Snooks on 10/09/2009 6:56 am
Sherry Conner

"And isn’t it odd that in a Manhattan world where David Letterman has met the most divine stars and women in the world, he was too lazy to go outside his own workspace for companionship? In all the time I have known of David Letterman, only once have I ever even glimpsed him in a normal social circumstance."

Liz, that was a snobbish comment.  It sounds as though us "common" folks don’t count for much in your opinion and I thought you were better than that.

By Sherry Conner on 10/09/2009 9:48 am
Ilse Daniel
It’s not odd at all, Liz, given his paralysing shyness! In case you haven’t heard Letterman does not enjoy ‘normal social circumstance!’ Your comments aren’t so much snobbish, as others have said, just ill informed! Such comments reveal much more about Liz Smith than about Letterman and cause me to wonder whether I should ever read anything of yours again!
By Ilse Daniel on 10/09/2009 9:59 am
phyllis Doyle Pepe

Sherry: the fact that you read into Liz’s remark a discounting of "common" folk makes me wonder about your self esteem. "Camelot" has a lovely song about the simple folk. When Guenevere asks Arthur how these folks shoo away their blues, he responds:

I have been informed by those who know them well

they find relief in quite a clever way

When they are sorely pressed, they whistle for a spell

And whistling seems to brighten up their day

And that’s what simple folk do

So they say~~~~~ 

Liz was one of us common folks before she rose to fame, Sherry, so let’s continue to be clever, whistle a happy tune, and be grateful you are you are. 

By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 10/09/2009 10:24 am
Richard Bassett
Phyllis, well….I believe that even the divine women and stars were one of us common folks before they rose to fame. The question is: Does Liz Smith believe that she is one of the divine women/stars in the world or is still basically one of the everyday people who part of the ‘common’ workplace? Her answer would address the intention of snobbery. I think that (still) today, Ms Smith sees herself as living in the world with the rest of us working class folks so it, most likely, never entered her mind that her remark would be taken as snobbery. We all know Liz Smith better than that. That is not her MO
By Richard Bassett on 10/09/2009 3:50 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Dear Richard––YOU BET!
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 10/10/2009 6:50 am
Lee Harrison

Sherry,

I’d bet my last dollar that Liz is no snob.  She was simply saying she’s never seen him at the kind of events he would naturally be invited to…openings, galas, charity events, restaurants, etc.   Since we know how much our girl gets around, I’d say that’s a pretty telling observation!

By Lee Harrison on 10/09/2009 4:18 pm
Carole Del Monte
Let’s let the Letterman thing die.  The relationship(s) were consensual.  Nobody’s going after the women (nor should they), as if it was all Letterman & his peccadilloes.  His problem is that he got caught, even after a period of time.  Also, what were the intentions of "diary girl" when she kept a running account of their affair?  Hello!  Not our business.  He is a successful comedian who is human like the rest of us. 
By Carole Del Monte on 10/09/2009 10:00 am
Maggie W

…"….a previous photo made by Garry Gross who had been commissioned by Brooke’s mother back when perhaps she wasn’t thinking straight.".  

Although carefully worded, it appears that was not an isolated moment.  How the lovely Brooke became the well rounded lady she is today is indeed a mystery.

When small children are frolicking in the tub or running nude through the lawn sprinkler, that is sweet.  But full frontal nudity with heavy makeup and special lighting is child porn.  Brooke’s mom should be serving time.

I don’t think it was laziness on Letterman’s part that he found companionship on his own set.  It happens every day in corporate America as well.  People chat each other up near the water cooler or coffee pot.  Relationships begin.  Heck of a lot more comfortable than a blind date or hanging at a bar or trolling online sites. 

 

By Maggie W on 10/09/2009 10:09 am