The Liz Smith Column | 09/21/2009 5:00 am
Liz Smith: Peering Into Oscar's Crystal Ball
Also from Our Gossip Girl: Soaking up New York’s hurly-burly – and tequila, too! … Madonna: yes! Jesus loves her.

The cast and director of 'Precious' © Getty Images
"Prediction is very difficult, especially if it’s about the future!"
This remark is not one of movie mogul Samuel L. Goldwyn’s famous malapropisms. Though it certainly should be. It is actually the utterance of Niels Bohr, the Nobel Prize-winning Danish physicist who first applied the quantum theory.
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Last year at this time after the Toronto Film Festival, smart insiders came home to tell me that a little film, an independent called "Slumdog Millionaire," would go on to win the Academy Award. I had no opinion, but indeed it happened.
This year there seems to be no consensus. People say that the sleeper "Precious," which I’ve been writing about for over a year, and George Clooney’s "Up in the Air" will definitely be contenders.

George Clooney/Image: Nicolas Genin/Flickr
If there is a secret hoped-for winner, it would be the Weinstein Company’s glamorous musical "Nine," starring just about every famous female star in the international firmament.
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New York is a nervous breakdown. In Chicago recently, on wowOwow.com business, I was amazed at the rich and social citizens who approached me saying how "sophisticated, exciting and out-of-this-world New York is" – as if they’re apologizing for Chicago being backwater. I had to respond in amazement: "Are you kidding?"
Sometimes I think of an evening out in New York as the equivalent to picking cotton (really hard) or appearing onstage opening night without having learned my lines. Heart-stopping!) Here’s a sample:
Last Thursday I went to Swifty’s popular café where we had a meeting of the committee for the Fete de Swifty, upcoming on September 23. After that, I had a command performance to appear at the Doubles nightspot for the annual celebration of Quest magazine, in which my byline often appears. (I have to give publisher Chris Meigher credit. He got Doubles to make the best hors d’oeuvres of the night.
Segued from there to an East Side apartment of Elizabeth Stribling and Guy Robinson. They were pouring for the Landmark Conservancy benefit. This happens November 4 and we are turning a clutch of New Yorkers into "Living Landmarks" and legends in their own lifetime!
I guess you think I went home after that? But, no, popped into the new Renaissance Hotel opening at Lexington Avenue and 57th Street to celebrate with the Ritz Carlton folks at a party, hosted by Kathleen Matthews, who runs all their happenings. Had a chance to chat with that fellow Kathleen is married to, what’s-his-name of MSNBC TV. Oh yes, he’s Chris Matthews and he always accuses me of being "opinionated" where he is "dispassionate" and "reasonable." I guess so.
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Another evening, there I was, barefooted, on a rocking boat in the Hudson River off of Chelsea Pier 60 sipping some mighty fine tequila. I always like my tequila disguised in the mighty margarita, but the entrepreneur of this "sipping" event was the famous tycoon Bob Pittman and no margarita was in sight. He then taught me a thing or two about his new tequila, imported from San Miguel de Allende. The name is "Casa Dragones." The Dragones were historic cavalrymen who helped win Mexico’s independence. Bob’s tequila comes from the blue agave plant (actually it’s not a cactus as some believe, but from the lily family).
It takes eight to a dozen years for each plant in Mexico to be harvested. Then, in the end, the tequila outstrips all others, or so Pittman claims, in smell, taste and elegance. (It was pretty damned good!) I have to bow to this Mississippi native’s sipping expertise. He is an Internet phenomenon and offering up good tequila has become his offbeat passion. As I passed Rolling Stone’s owner, Jann Wenner, with my new blue Casa Dragones T-shirt, which I had snatched off a handsome hunk behind the bar, Jann said, "Don’t fall overboard, Liz"
This remark is not one of movie mogul Samuel L. Goldwyn’s famous malapropisms. Though it certainly should be. It is actually the utterance of Niels Bohr, the Nobel Prize-winning Danish physicist who first applied the quantum theory.
***
Last year at this time after the Toronto Film Festival, smart insiders came home to tell me that a little film, an independent called "Slumdog Millionaire," would go on to win the Academy Award. I had no opinion, but indeed it happened.
This year there seems to be no consensus. People say that the sleeper "Precious," which I’ve been writing about for over a year, and George Clooney’s "Up in the Air" will definitely be contenders.

George Clooney/Image: Nicolas Genin/Flickr
If there is a secret hoped-for winner, it would be the Weinstein Company’s glamorous musical "Nine," starring just about every famous female star in the international firmament.
***
New York is a nervous breakdown. In Chicago recently, on wowOwow.com business, I was amazed at the rich and social citizens who approached me saying how "sophisticated, exciting and out-of-this-world New York is" – as if they’re apologizing for Chicago being backwater. I had to respond in amazement: "Are you kidding?"
Sometimes I think of an evening out in New York as the equivalent to picking cotton (really hard) or appearing onstage opening night without having learned my lines. Heart-stopping!) Here’s a sample:
Last Thursday I went to Swifty’s popular café where we had a meeting of the committee for the Fete de Swifty, upcoming on September 23. After that, I had a command performance to appear at the Doubles nightspot for the annual celebration of Quest magazine, in which my byline often appears. (I have to give publisher Chris Meigher credit. He got Doubles to make the best hors d’oeuvres of the night.
Segued from there to an East Side apartment of Elizabeth Stribling and Guy Robinson. They were pouring for the Landmark Conservancy benefit. This happens November 4 and we are turning a clutch of New Yorkers into "Living Landmarks" and legends in their own lifetime!
I guess you think I went home after that? But, no, popped into the new Renaissance Hotel opening at Lexington Avenue and 57th Street to celebrate with the Ritz Carlton folks at a party, hosted by Kathleen Matthews, who runs all their happenings. Had a chance to chat with that fellow Kathleen is married to, what’s-his-name of MSNBC TV. Oh yes, he’s Chris Matthews and he always accuses me of being "opinionated" where he is "dispassionate" and "reasonable." I guess so.
***
Another evening, there I was, barefooted, on a rocking boat in the Hudson River off of Chelsea Pier 60 sipping some mighty fine tequila. I always like my tequila disguised in the mighty margarita, but the entrepreneur of this "sipping" event was the famous tycoon Bob Pittman and no margarita was in sight. He then taught me a thing or two about his new tequila, imported from San Miguel de Allende. The name is "Casa Dragones." The Dragones were historic cavalrymen who helped win Mexico’s independence. Bob’s tequila comes from the blue agave plant (actually it’s not a cactus as some believe, but from the lily family).
It takes eight to a dozen years for each plant in Mexico to be harvested. Then, in the end, the tequila outstrips all others, or so Pittman claims, in smell, taste and elegance. (It was pretty damned good!) I have to bow to this Mississippi native’s sipping expertise. He is an Internet phenomenon and offering up good tequila has become his offbeat passion. As I passed Rolling Stone’s owner, Jann Wenner, with my new blue Casa Dragones T-shirt, which I had snatched off a handsome hunk behind the bar, Jann said, "Don’t fall overboard, Liz"
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That week Roots ran on T.V. was a revelation for my generation. I felt sick when Kizzy was violated. No one talked about slavery rape—real taboo. Not to mention that most of us still living in the south wanted to say we were mixed with Native American ancestry—right? Now I’m told my Great-Grand was Cherokee. Mom went to the archives and found the 1880 Census were Great Grand is listed as "M" for Mulatto. Now that racial designation was used when the census taker knew they were looking at a bi-racial person. Mom is still looking for Great Grand’s parent’s census information.
But back to the movie, I didn’t even recognize Mariah Carey! LOL I heard she did a great job as well as the new comer who plays Precious. I just don’t know if I can sit through the movie though, the book was very emotional. I absolutely hate to cry in public.
Interesting, I never heard of that before. It seems to me that women think a little bit too much. I think about getting it on with a woman as most men do, but rape? Why would anyone fantasize about rape? Its not complexity of a woman mind, its a personal problem.
Precious cost a whopping 3 million to make. They spent more than that on catering for this film, which comes out soon.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avatar/index.html
You sound like Jimmy Carter. Its not about race. Oprah Winfrey is using race. Tell me I’m wrong.
You have a right to your opinion of course, but I would argue the millions of women who do have rape fantasies do indeed have complex issues at play that are not black and white or easily understood. As I am sure you gleamed from the article. So it is a complex subject. It only becomes a personal problem when these women attempt to make a fantasy into reality.
As far as your comment about the cost of the film Precious, I am going to try my best not to sound condescending, so please forgive me, but…
You do realize this is an Independent film right? Hundreds of movies are produced each year on an independent bases for a lot less than 3 million dollars. Award winning movies (as is the case of Precious which has already won awards). So I’m not quite following what your comment is in regard to costs….it may simply be that you are not familiar with Indie, Tribeca and Cannes Film festivals, as well as many others that are a showcase for independent & low budget films.
Lastly your comment about me sounding like Jimmy Carter. I’ll accept that as a compliment because I completely agree with his recent comments about race and President Obama. As for Oprah Winfrey "using race" I have no idea what you are referring to. This is a movie about a Black girl, her Black family, neighbors, friends, etc. etc. No different than if it were an Irish girl, her Irish family, neighbors and friends.
Belinda: Are you aware that you, me and everyone else have the ability to control what we think? I hope that any woman that has rape fantasies will stop today. I don’t purport to have any know-how on why women have these, although you want me to conclude that its complex just to satisfy you. Men and women both have complex thoughts.
I’m well aware of Independent films. Monsters Ball cost 4 million dollars to make, in which Halle Berry won an Oscar. We have that same situation here with Precious. The lead character that is not known for her acting ability thrust into a small but powerful Independent film hoping for an Oscar. With all of the young and stupid kids in this country fixated on Obama, the time is ripe for Winfrey to bankroll a film about (as you said yourself), an overweight black girl, her black family, neighbors, friends, etc.
You should be embarrassed saying that everyone that disagrees with Obama has a problem with a black man in the White House. I wanted Colin Powell to run for president, and was upset when he endorsed Obama. He has since backpedaled on that endorsement, for good reason. Do you agree with Powell?
Let me answer your comments in reverse order. President Carter never said "everyone that disagrees with Obama has a problem with a black man in the White House" That is called selective recall on your part. I would suggest you visit Youtube.com and watch his interview again and listen closely to his words. You and others are distorting his comment.
As for the film, you are the one that demeaned the film Precious by stating it only cost 3 million to make. Comparing it to another film in which you stated the catering bill for the other movie was more than the total cost of precious. Why you are attempting to back-peddle on your statement is something you don’t have to explain to me, as I stated, I don’t care whether you see the movie or not and honestly would prefer that you not see it.
Lastly, if you had taken the time to read the article by the psychologists and researchers who have studied rape fantasies by women, you would see they have provided 9 different (suspected) reasons for this occurrence. You may not consider that complex, I do as well as most women. And most assuredly the women who are having these fantasies.
Your comment that "Everyone has the ability to control what they think" is something most of the world I would guess, does not believe. So to use your line of logic pedophiles shouldn’t be faulted for their desires to sexually abuse children, they need only change their thoughts on the subject. And women who stay in abusive relationships, they need only change their thoughts on the subject. People who have suicidal thoughts, they need only change their thoughts on the subject. According to you these are not complex issues of the mind because afterall, "Everyone has the ability to control what they think"
That’s very short-sided of you and naive. The mind is far more complex than you think.
"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man," Carter said.
Carter continued, "And that racism inclination still exists. And I think it’s bubbled up to the surface because of the belief among many white people, not just in the South but around the country, that African-Americans are not qualified to lead this great country.
Belinda: I’m not distorting his comment, you’re not listening.
I never backpedal (the word I used regarding Powell). I don’t care if you care if I see the Precious. Winfrey is playing the race card at an opportune time. I’ll tell you now, I will never see this film.
If taxpayer money is going to research women having rape fantasies, that’s a problem, not complex. I did read the article you provided. I found it interesting but a complete waste of time. I understand you’re pro woman, but you overdue it.
Let me say this again. Everybody has the ability to control what they think. Pedophiles wish to think about abusing children. Women in abusive relationships has nothing to do with this, as an outside entity is causing their harm. People that have suicidal thoughts can absolutely control their minds. It is the weak that actually commit suicide.
The mind may be complex (what is it with you and that word), but can be easily controlled. Only the short-sided, naive, and weak believe differently.
You said: "You should be embarrassed saying that everyone that disagrees with Obama has a problem with a black man in the White House."
Jimmy Carter said: "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man"
I agree with him. An overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward the President is indeed based on race. It is only in your head (and those that think as you do) that the word portion is magically transposed to mean everyone.There are millions of Americans that disagree with Barack Obama who are not racists. And there are millions of Americans that disagree with him that are. They are getting their 15 minutes of fame on our TV’s nightly by way of loud and boisterous protests.
You may not want to admit that, but like Former President Carter, I choose to acknowledge it for what it is.
As for your other comments, they are so insensitive and inappropriate, I can assure you I have no response.
Belinda: You can agree with the worst president this country has ever had, you would be wrong. You really believe those people in town meetings were looking for 15 minutes of fame? The one million protesters were looking for 15 minutes of fame?
Nobody cares that Obama is a black man, they only care that he doesn’t know what he’s doing, and ruining the country at the same time. What happened to all of those promises for job creation? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MjQ17kDng
Teenage unemployment is over 25%. His stimulus allocated 1.5 billion towards employment for young people. This was a complete disaster, as it was just money being distributed without a plan. Cash for Clunkers was a disaster. Dealers were supposed to be paid within 10 days. Here are two dealers in IL.
Out of 142 deals they owe us for, we’ve gotten paid on seven," Lou Tornabeni of Ettleson Hyundai said.
"We had 102 cash for clunkers," Carm Scarpace of Westfield Ford said. "We’ve been paid for one."
Equating african american experience with women and rape fantasies? For one thing men would understand rape fantasies because men commit rape. Negative cultural experiences shape the human psyche, are internalized by oppressed groups and projected back onto the social environment. Simple as that.
Unbelievable! You need to get together with Liz Peek, the two of you have a knack for taking complex and complicated issues, issues that have been and are being studied by hundreds if not thousands of professionals; yet you offer up simplistic, definitive solutions and answers. You need to contact as many psychiatrists, psychologists and professionals as you can to tell them they need not study this issue any more because you have the answer and as you said "Simple as that"
Wow, you’re good.
Explain to me this complex black experience. What is it, can’t flag down a cab in NYC? Mexican people where I live, barely get by with the money they’re paid, but they’re the nicest people you could meet. They don’t have hang ups, they have picnics every weekend. Black people could learn a lot from them.
So is it true that "tequila makes your clothes fall off"? that was a fairly big hit song recently. i can’t drink tequila so i never got to find out.
I actually bought Christopher Ciccione’s book. I like to read about the "before years" of famous people. The struggle and the choices always interest me. I feel kind of sad for him when I read it. and Liz pegged it… in trying to avoid just being Madonna’s brother the book reduces him to just that. I have always thought that it must be very difficult to be the siblings/family of mega stars like Madonna, Tom Cruise, Oprah…. You would have to be a pretty healthy person in your own right to not take on some kind of pathology around it.
Liz, I want to know how you remember every one’s name when you have 4 or 5 of these "obligations" to visit in one day. I stutter when I see my neighbor coming. I am thinking is it Celine? Celia? Turns out to be Mary. What was I thinking?
I admire you for having the legs, feet, stamina for all these events but most of all that you remember who made the best hors d’oeuvres, drinks and names.