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The Liz Smith Column | 10/07/2009 5:00 am

Liz Smith: Polanski Conversations Prevail

Also from Our Gossip Girl: The ‘evolution’ of Fred Thompson … Danielle de Niese, opera goddess on Bleecker Street … Barry Manilow’s holiday jingles.
Roman Polanski © PR Photos
"Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you mad," wrote Aldous Huxley.

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Remember the presidential race? It was only "yesterday" metaphorically speaking, but it seems now like a million years ago.

Well, if you do remember, you should vividly recall Fred Thompson, the senator from Tennessee, who was also on "Law & Order" for several years as the gruff district attorney.

Fred decided, well into the race, that he really didn’t want to be president and dropped out fairly early. But this big, tall conservative is back in action.

He and his wife, Jeri, do a daily radio show for Westwood One, which is heard in 173 markets all over the country. Fred also just returned from Kentucky where he shot the first part of his role in Disney’s upcoming feature, "Secretariat," opposite Diane Lane and John Malkovich.

In a few months, he’ll be in Flint, MI, to portray William Jennings Bryan in the feature movie "Alleged." This drama is about the famous Scopes "monkey trial" where he argues with the great Clarence Darrow about the origins of man. The Darrow role will be played by Brian Dennehy.

Hmm, talk about typecasting – Fred Thompson as William Jennings Bryan!

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Soprano Danielle de Niese knocked them dead last night down at Le Poisson Rouge on Bleecker Street in Greenwich Village. This performance kicked off the singer’s new hotly anticipated Decca recording, "The Mozart Album." She squeezed it in on her night off from her adorable performance as saucy Susanna in "The Marriage of Figaro" at the Metropolitan Opera.

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Danielle de Niese © Decca/Chris Dunlop

Danielle, born in Australia and raised in Los Angeles, is of Sri Lankan and Dutch parentage. She got her first break at age nine when she won a competition with a Whitney Houston medley. Danielle is in the tradition of the new opera stars – beautiful and trim and, in December, she’ll be marrying Gus Christie, the Englishman who runs the prestigious Glyndebourne Opera Festival.

This is a big week in New York for opera buffs. The late great Beverly Sills’s collection of gowns, paintings, opera scores, jewelry and everything else she garnered in a lifetime goes on sale at the Doyle Galleries this very day. Bidding will be especially hot for a helmet that the Wagner Society is bent on nabbing for its own.

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Arguments as to whether filmmaker Roman Polanski should get what he deserves or whether he should just waltz off into the sunset scot-free after all these years are dominating dinner tables.

But it looks as if about 80% of people polled think he should face the music, at last, and only the showbiz crowd (ever tender-hearted) and European intellectuals are on his side.

Any day now, we will have on wOw a "Conversation" where Julia Reed, Joan Juliet Buck and yours truly debate this matter. Here are some points I wasn’t smart enough to make in regard to that argument as it was happening:

Polanski acknowledged in his 1984 memoir that he caused his young 13-year-old victim "considerable pain" when he committed statutory rape on her in Hollywood. He made her submit to oral and vaginal sex, plus sodomy. But according to his biographer, Chris Sandford, he made little or no visible show of contrition. He was warned at the time to limit his public appearances with "nubile young actresses" during the trial. Polanski said back then that he was "a hard-working professional obliged to deal with these distractions."

After he fled from L.A. he continued to denounce what he called "bureaucratic interference" in his life. When he left France for trips to off-limits Holland or Switzerland, he was heard to say, "I’ll be home again before there’s any legal nonsense." He even bought a home in Gstaad.

Sandford remarks, "No wonder, perhaps, that one of Polanski’s friends told me last week that Roman had possibly come to believe over the last 30 years that he was less and less bound by any restrictions on his liberty." The biographer adds a P.S."If so, it’s an assumption that may yet be tested by events in the weeks ahead."

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S A
applaud
By S A on 10/08/2009 8:02 am
Baby  Snooks
A very dangerous question but who or what are you applauding?
By Baby Snooks on 10/08/2009 8:12 am
S A
I still believe this is about agenda rather than justice and that is not about what he did and shouldn’t have done and what she did and shouldn’t have done and what her mother did and shouldn’t have done but simply about what the judge did.  The judge, alas, is dead and so we can’t burn him at the stake. So we will settle for Roman Polanski without realizing we will be burning Samantha Geimer at the stake as well.  A sad day in America when we do so. 

I agree. I also think that this type of thread, and we all know there are probably thousands of them, must be sheer torture for Samantha Geimer. That is not to say she hasn’t coped well with the after affects of what happened to her but to be forced to face it again and again and be ignored when she pleads for it to stop. I wonder how it is possible that not one of these people who are relishing the moment to condemn Polanski do not give a moment’s thought to what all of this must be causing Samantha Geimer and her family right now? 

I think the only resolution to this is for Polanski to come back to the US and face sentencing for fleeing the justice system. Only then can the motion for a mistrial be made and a new trial begin. However, fleeing will also have it’s penalty. It is the state’s obligation to bring to justice any criminal act. A court of law is the place where the action should take place. Not on forums where the victim and the victim’s family is going to continue being victimized.

By S A on 10/08/2009 9:15 am
Baby  Snooks

Let’s not forget that he has a family as well although I suspect some would like to see them burned at the stake as well.

This is, as Candice Bergen put it, complicated and in the end no matter what our positions are the only positions that will determine any possible resolution are the positions of his attorneys and the prosecutors who are not the same prosecutors who filed the original charges which complicates the matter further.  And our courts, interestingly, may not be the courts that decide the resolution.  It will be the Swiss courts and they may decide, as the French courts did, that this, as Samantha Geimer herself stated in 2003, was a closed matter and the judge did not have the right to reopen it as he attempted to and therefore under the US laws regarding "double jeopardy" there is no validity to the claims made by the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office.  Either way no matter what the resolution it is doubtful that there ever really will be resolution.

One of the things that really is wrong with this is the matter of "victims rights" and I am sorry but I am a victim and an advocate for victims and to me what the victim wants is all that matters.  Sadly, it doesn’t matter to anyone else.

By Baby Snooks on 10/08/2009 9:43 am
S A

I am the family of a victim of violent rape at 13. If she were alive today and her case brought to the attention of the media I believe I know how she would be affected. I know what it would do to her family because we all loved her. This type of ‘public indignation’ may seem harmless but supportive of the victim but it is a far cry from that. I sincerely hope that all these people posting rants will never have happen to them or anyone in their families anything similar to rape.

By S A on 10/08/2009 9:58 am
John G

Lock ‘em up and throw away the key…

C - great idea! 

By John G on 10/07/2009 8:48 am
Baby  Snooks

Well to be fair let’s toss in some of the Hollywood Mothers and the Hollywood Mothers-Wannabes - I’ve known two of the daughters and through the years have grown to like their mothers less and less.

"Go with the nice man, sweetie, he’s going to make you a star."  And make the mother rich.

By Baby Snooks on 10/07/2009 9:25 am
Maggie W
Every year, I have this bet with a friend.  The first to hear the first Christmas song of the season on the radio gets treated to dinner by the other.It has to be documented by the radio station, not always easily done, so we also go by the honor system.   For the past three years, I’ve been picking up the dinner ticket.   Bah Humbug!  This year, I hope I am first to hear Mariah & her mom or Barry’s " Christmas Is Just Around the Corner".  New Cuban restaurant has recently opened, and I hear the paella is magnificent.  Fingers are crossed.
By Maggie W on 10/07/2009 9:59 am
S A
My closest friend and I exchanged the same Christmas Card every year for nearly two decades… Alas! it was lost in the mail.
By S A on 10/08/2009 10:00 am
Glenda Glynn

Maggie - I had to laugh when I read your post — "The First Christmas Song of The Season".  Well, today I heard my first Christmas Song of The Season -at the post office - a cell phone rang to the tune of Jingle Bells!  Everyone turned around to see the lady holding the phone.  Some guy standing next to me said, "And we haven’t even eaten the Thanksgiving Turkey yet"! 

How very true!! 

 

By Glenda Glynn on 10/08/2009 8:39 pm
Michael Fox

The Scopes trial has always been meaty material for actors, but  I think Fred Dalton Thompson is biting off more than he can chew - yet again.  Fredric March put his brilliant mark on this part in Inherit the Wind.  Thompson is no Fredric March. 

March and Spencer Tracy’s performances were definitive.  Dennehy may be up to the task, but, really, Thompson?

By Michael Fox on 10/07/2009 11:09 am
joanne in jax
Michael - That’s exactly what I thought when I read Liz’s column.  Good old boy Thompson never had more than half a dozen lines on any episode of Law and Order, and willingly admitted that he didn’t like to learn ‘lines’.  His presidential bid was cut short by him because he was too ‘lazy’ (his words) and put off by all the public speaking.  Being a good old boy will only get you so far.  I have little hope that he is up for the rhetoric of such a demanding role.
By joanne in jax on 10/07/2009 11:45 am
Norma Grooms

He thought in politics maybe he would get plenty of do-over scenes like in the movies, wrong!

 

By Norma Grooms on 10/07/2009 1:21 pm
Horse Lover

Roman thought he was above the law.  Well every dog has his day and I welcome him coming back to Los Angeles to serve his time.  It’s sad that I will never see a Harrison Ford movie again.  While, RP may have been a great director, forcing a child into the situation he put her in is revolting.  We as women should stand up and applaud the Swiss for finally arresting him.  Bring him back here to face the charges.  Women we must stand united on this.  What are we telling our daughters and sisters when we tell them to report a rapist no matter who they are and they see this person (RP) getting away with it.  Double message.

I am surprised at the women of Hollywood who support him.  Are they looking for parts in his future films?  I have never seen a Woody Allen movie after what he did and I will have no compuction about NOT seeing the movies or shows of anyone who supports RP.

By Horse Lover on 10/07/2009 1:45 pm
Baby  Snooks

"Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you mad," wrote Aldous Huxley.
_______________________________

In case you missed it that is the quote Liz began the column today with and the truth in this obviously makes quite a few quite mad. 

Among other official documents filed with the court at the time is the probation report which assesses many things including interviews with all the parties so to speak and the probation report, which is what courts usually use to assess punishment on the basis of in terms of whether the person should be imprisoned or released, clearly states that it was "consensual sex" under the laws of California which of course most rational people knew then and know now simply because all charges except statutory rape were dropped by the district attorney’s office with complete acceptance and agreement by all the parties including the judge.  He was not determined to be a rapist or a pedophile at any point in this.

 

By Baby Snooks on 10/07/2009 2:18 pm