That’s what Liberty Unviersity seems to want as well: stop all the talking, but it adds ‘and just do as I say.’ Interesting convergence. You might want to check out the following:

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I saw survey results last week that reflect pro-choice advocates as having moved into the minority.  To me, this is an alarming trend.  Though it would be nice to stop talking about it -  and I agree with Lizzie R. that there is no talk only constant bickering due to the volatile nature of the discussion, I have to believe that saying nothing may have it’s consequences.

The Pro-Life movement has never stopped.  In my town there are bill-boards, flyers, and I recently saw a doctor who wears pro-life feet on her lapel.  

I remember a time when prominent individuals, celebrities and Hollywood stars used their voices and influence to support free choice.  Now however, the Pro-Choice "movement" no longer has momentum nor does it feel a pressing need for it.  We have the law on our side… for now.  But don’t think for a second if Pro-Choice advocates stop talking, that Pro-Life advocates will do the same. 

Complacency is often a larger threat than the opponent itself.

It occurred to me that the recurrent theme of both Obamas to "give back" and to sacrifice for the community, - code for the state -  is BEST epitomized  in the sacrifice made by a mother to carry a baby for 9 months and then either give the baby up for adoption, or personally raise that baby to be a productive member of society and a well adjusted family member, who is successful, and healthy and stable enough to produce and raise the next generation after her.

I’ve given back 7 separate times - with awesome results: 7 extraordinary human beings who make this world a better place. Other than giving my life for my country, this is the greatest sacrifice that a person can make for the good of the community.

I think we need an updated version of the Good Samaritan:

Once a tiny baby was lying on a table fighting for her life and each shallow breath, having had the audacity to survive her own abortion. 

The abortionist said, "I cannot give comfort care to this baby, because I might get sued." And he washed his blood-covered hands, and walked away. 

Obama, peering in the surgery window, said: "I will not help this baby because I crave the votes of my abortion allies." And he straightened his Armani tie, crossed to the other side of the hallway, and hurried on his way to a fundraiser.

A young nurse said: "I will help this baby." And she wrapped the babe in swaddling clothes and laid her in an incubator, in a utility closet, because there was no room for her in the nursery. And the closet lights shown round about and through the transparent skin of the young babe. And the janitor and the lowly laundry woman came to honor her. 

"Father forgive them, they know not what they do," whispered the nurse. And the young babe gave up the ghost. And the nurse washed the babe, and dressed in her in burial clothes, and placed her in the morgue.  

i will ALWAYS be pro-choice. but that doesn’t mean i would be pro-abortion. i could never get an abortion myself (unless the child would be in such pain or so horribly filled with birth defects that life would be horrible for that child then i might say differently). my daughter couldn’t either. BUT we believe that EACH person has their own right. i will not be FORCED into an abortion either.

i used to have a bumper sticker that said "if you cannot trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a child!" i miss that bumper sticker. i got all kinds of interesting responses. one person took lipstick and scrawled BABY KILLER all over my windshield. somebody else wrote me a nice little letter and stuck it under my windshield about it. very polite. but very pro-life (at least SHE was polite). 

sure a mother could carry the baby full term, but what if she couldn’t give it up and then later abused it, didn’t love it or even killed it? i would rather see a fetus destroyed that way, before it has concious thought, then destroyed later by someone who didn’t want the child. as for late term abortions, NO WAY! 

yes, we need more sex education in schools and more birth control available for anybody that needs it. kids are going to mess around because their parents cannot keep an eye on them every minute. they also will pick up STD’s (remember when we used to call it VD?). i would rather educate my child than see her or him messed up, pregnant and accidently getting some disease just because i was afraid if i talk about they will run out and have sex.

i educated both my daughter and son (even tho my son is mentally disabled) and my daughter waited til she was in her 20’s to do anything. she is 10x more modest than i am. 10x more exacting about who she sees. where i was raised with no knowledge of anything and ended up running wild when i divorced my husband because i had married the first guy that would shown me some attention. 

keeping knowledge from people just makes them stupid. nobody wants stupid children. we don’t want a nation of stupid children PERIOD!

You know not talking about the subject is absurd.  Arguing over it incessantly is equally absurd.  But trying to understand the argument and all it entails would help.  Pro-Lifers are also frequently pro-war and pro-gun which is baffling to me.  Pro-choice is not pro-abortion it’s just not anti-abortion. Geez, pro-life is not concerned with quality of life but quantity, which is diabolical if you think about it. 

But how about understanding and acknowledging what causes pregnancy in the first place.  Vaginal/penial intercourse is the only activity that can result in pregnancy.  Why don’t we call that activity Reproductive intercourse instead of "sex"?  Why not make it taboo to have such intercourse unless the woman wants and intends to become pregnant?  Sex is any other sexual activity that does not include vaginal/penial penetration/intercourse.  Both female and male human beings can achieve orgasm without reproductive intercourse in many other ways, reproductive intercourse is not necessary for either sex to achieve sexual satisfaction.  In many case studies it was shown that men prefer oral sex and other sexual activities to achieve orgasm than vaginal penetration.  Perhaps this implies that we overuse vaginal/penial penetration and so it is less satisfying for men.  And we already know that most women do not achieve orgasm during intercourse.  Also a woman who desires a baby but has fertility issues may wish to have intercourse during fertile times of her cycle irregardless if she achieves an orgasm or not, her desire during intercourse is reproductive in nature and not sexual.   So it would seem from pro-choice to pro-life we have little understanding of our true biological natures which are quite unique in the human female because if we did we would have made this distinction long ago as a better argument.  But I would bet that the pro-lifers would be the loudest against such a position, even though they promote abstinence from all "sex" kissing, oral, foreplay, etc.. none of which causes pregnancy.  What is the reason they continuosly promote something that is impossible to achieve?  When we grow up to know what causes "reproduction" versus what is the purpose of "sexuality" our bodies tell us best.