Margo Howard | 08/20/2009 1:45 pm
Margo Howard: The Last Reporter to Speak to Jimmy Hoffa
Editor’s Note: A longtime journalist, Margo Howard went into the family business (her mother was the fabled Ann Landers) in the 1990s as Dear Prudence. Her broad experience and understanding of human nature provide answers for the troubled — and entertainment for everyone else. Margo’s advice column, Dear Margo, appears twice a week — on Thursdays and Fridays — on wowOwow.com. Here she recalls her most memorable interview moments. Click here for the most memorable on-the-record moments from the wOw Women.
One of my "unforgettables" was Jimmy Hoffa, just out of the clink. I was the last and only newspaper person to get to him before he was offed – and I wasn’t even a hard news reporter. I got to him in a crazy way. One of the investigative guys at my paper, The Chicago Daily News, suggested the way to get to him was through the head of the Teamsters’ Union in Chicago. I somehow got him on the phone and told him I was a feature writer and really wanted to talk about Hoffa’s "being out" and what it was like to be "in." He kept saying no, Hoffa wasn’t giving interviews, and for some reason I just kept going with him so we could keep talking. At some point something clicked and he said, "Are you Eppie Lederer’s daughter?" I said yes. Well, he had gone to high school with Mother in Sioux City, IA, and of course he knew who she was professionally. (Because, c’mon, Sioux City, IA?) I wish I could remember his name, but I can’t. (This was decades ago, and I was maybe 30.) He said, "I will help you," and that is how I got to be the last reporter to speak to Hoffa. Of course, all he wanted to talk about was prison reform, but at least it was an interview.
I also had a doozie of an interview with Shelley Winters, where she wanted to end the interview when I asked if she were the "inspiration" for "Same Time Next Year." She started to holler and said she didn’t know this was going to be "that kind of an interview." I somehow kept the conversation going (apparently my strong suit); she didn’t throw me out. The interview continued. The way I knew that she was the inspiration was that I knew the playwright, Bern Slade, and he told me. For you young ‘uns who don’t know the story of that play, it is about two former lovers who meet every Christmas Eve to … well, relive the good old days.

























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Margo, this is delightful, but way too short!
I do not remember if it did come to light, so forgive me if I am asking the obvious, but do we know who Shelley Winters met each year?
Coming from north of Detroit originally, we heard a lot about Jimmy Hoffa. I always hoped we would someday learn the true story about the end of his life..there was so much violence, and corruption during that era, and the unions were very strong. What made it unforgettable? Did you feel uncomfortable interviewing him? Some reported being afraid when they met with him, others thought he was a gentleman. How was your experience?
Always a delight to read your features! Thanks!
Catie
Catie,
The former head of the FBI’s Detroit office claims the Feds know what happened to Hoffa but won’t release the information due to certain concerned parties still surviving.
Even Hoffa’s daughter - a retired Associate Circuit Court Judge in Missouri (and currently an Asst. AG for Missouri’s Attorney General) - has sued the Feds for the information and been denied.
While Hoffa might have only been interested in talking prison reform after being sprung in early 1973, he was fully set on regaining control of the Teamsters and the internecine warfare between the Hoffa and Fitzsimmons factions of the Detroit Local was full blown at the time Hoffa disappeared in July 1975 (though a month earlier Hoffa denied to a radio reporter that he was involved with blowing up the car belonging to Fitzsimmons’ son).
Ooh Margo, you can’t drop a bombshell like that and leave us hanging! I had no clue you were the last person to interview Jimmy Hoffa.
I’m no big fan of Same Time Next Year, but I would like to know Shelley Winters met up with also.
MARGO:
You can’t leave us hanging like this. TRY TO REMEMBER who the guy was. I always got a kick out of Ms. Winters, she was a very funny talk show guest. So unpredictable.
Re: Hoffa, whew, glad he didn’t fit you with cement shoes and drop you in a lake somewhere. We would have missed out on so much fun reading your column and some of your crazy commenters.
You’re right Baby Snooks. It could be anybody. I just looked it up in her book "Shelley."
She had a 7 year one night stand with William Holden every 4pm to 4am on Christmas Eve. During the same time, she had an affair with a married Burt Lancaster who almost caught her with Marlon Brando one night. Then she almost married bi-sexual Farley Granger but quickly married Victtorio Gassman when neither knew each other’s language. She then picked up again with William Holden for that yearly one-night stand and explained she had missed a year when married to Victtorio. Then she married Tony Franciosa. Yet years after their divorce she failed to recognize him. Tony had to remind her he’d once been her husband. Busy…and crazy lady…