Miss California Carrie Prejean, Gay Marriage | 04/24/2009 9:55 am

Miss California Carrie Prejean Becomes Conservative Darling Amid Gay Marriage Brouhaha

By The Staff at wowOwow.com

Carrie Prejean may have lost the Miss USA crown, but she sure won the hearts of conservatives. What is it with the GOP and beauty queens? Don’t forget that Sarah Palin was once an aspiring Miss Alaska! (swimsuit competition video here)

Miss California has been blasted since the Miss USA competition Sunday night, when she said on national television — much to the dismay of celebrity blogger Perez Hilton — she believes marriage should be between a man and a woman. She later said that while she doesn’t regret voicing her beliefs, her stance is what left her in second place. But since then, Politico reports, Prejean has found a slew of supporters from conservative bloggers, talk-show hosts and others on the right.

Family Research Council President Tony Perkins stated his "admiration and support" for Prejean and said she "has been victimized by this flagging production in a vain attempt to generate interest through controversy rather than substance." One Alabama state legislator even introduced a resolution praising her for speaking out against gay marriage; it passed by voice vote.

Others applauded her for speaking her mind, even if it may not have been politically correct enough for the pageant crowd.

"It was refreshing to see someone not give the politically correct answer," writes a Kansas City Star columnist. "Predictably, conservatives and some Republican politicians are embracing Prejean because of her comments. That’s fine, too, because she’s getting a positive reaction for speaking her mind."

Donald Trump, the owner of the Miss Universe franchise, told FOX News that he has received thousands of calls and letters, the majority of which support Prejean’s stance.

"Miss California has done a wonderful job, that was her belief … It wasn’t a bad answer, that was simply her belief," Trump said, adding that Prejean’s question was "a bit unlucky," and that no matter how she answered, "she was going to get killed."

Perhaps if Prejean’s current career plans don’t work out, she could find a niche for herself in politics. The GOP could use more women in its ranks!

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Tracy…did you mean Heterosexual? No….I am very different from my homosexual friends. Definitey straight…but I have no problems with them having sex anyway that they deem rewarding. I don’t care to see it, or hear about…they should keep it behind closed doors.

If you are asking if I have had sexual "urges" that too will remain behind closed doors.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/26/2009 6:33 pm

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If you are asking if I have had sexual "urges" that too will remain behind closed doors

was that urge a choice, or did it happen naturally? because if homosexuality is a choice, any bi or homosexual urge you’ve ever had must be a choice.

By Amanda C on 04/26/2009 10:21 pm

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what vile names? homophobic? prejudiced? those are not vile names, those are accurate descriptions of your biased opinions about an entire demographic of strangers you have never met. if someone said "marriage is between a white man and white female, period, that is my belief, to pretend that it is, is not true, it is a sexual choice, period. i do not believe marriage between a white and black person is a natural state, what they do behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors"

why do you think you are any different than a racist, except with your homophobia?

No one I know "teaches descrimination".

by you acting like you are better than gay people, you are teaching discrimination is ok - same as when men were above women, and blacks were slaves to whites - when a man or slave owner simply went through his day acting as though he were "naturally" better and above women and blacks, he was teaching discrimination.

Gays have every right that is available to other Americans

no, they do not kelly, and you know it, don’t act so naive - you know exactly what you want to deny same-sex couples. ninety percent of the population (straight people) have the right to marry the informed, consenting adult of their choice, and would even consider that right a fundamental, constitutionally protected right. gays do not have that right - they do not have the right to marry the informed, consenting adult of their choice. denying two consenting adults the right that 90% of their fellow citizens have to form a lawful union that is protected and respected by the state, denies them two of the most basic natural rights affirmed in the preamble of our Declaration of Independence — liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

However, marriage between same sex partners is not natural. To pretend that it is, is not true.

how is a marriage between same sex partners unnatural? how is marriage "natural"?

It is a sexual choice…period.

you are incorrect as a scientific fact, kelly - you are wrong, accept that you were taught wrong from a scientific standpoint. homosexuality is a natural variation within the human race and other animal races - it has been thoroughly studied and documented. my sources:

http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm

http://www.livescience.com/animals/080516-gay-animals.html

http://www.jstor.org/pss/40018070

http://www.librarything.com/work/248789

it is not a choice -if it is a choice, then i must ask you: do you struggle with choosing to find men attractive each day? do you struggle with not choosing to find women attractive? i’m interested, because i have never chosen whom to find attractive, ever. it just happens.

They most certainly have the ability to distinguish between a difference in beliefs and human rights.

they most certainly can not if you can’t! you wrongly advocate homophobia in law by denying same sex couples the human right to marry (and it has legally been determined that marriage is a human right as shown in Loving v. Virginia)

I do not believe that marriage between same sex partners is a natural state.

why? it seems to me that justice demands that if the straight community cannot show a compelling reason to deny the institution of marriage to gay people, it shouldn’t be denied. and such simple, silly declarations, with no real moral argument behind them, are hardly compelling reasons. they’re really more like an expression of prejudice than any kind of a real argument. the concept of not denying people their rights unless you can show a compelling reason to deny them is the very basis of the American ideal of human rights.

Plenty of others feel the same way and we are not happy with having the gay agenda forced on us at every turn.

there is no gay agenda kelly, except to be provided equal rights. but i will tell you with certainty, that there is a straight christian agenda that is being forced upon the entire nation when you try and legislate your homophobic hate.

What they do behind closed doors should stay behind closed doors.

i think that should be true for everyone - you, kelly, should have no say in what other couples do and who can get married.

so answer me kelly, if you have any answers, that is.

By Amanda C on 04/26/2009 3:08 pm

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Lemon Tea…animals are not homosexual. Period. Not true.

They display dominant and subordinate behaviors for many reason. Animals do not intercourse to the exclusion of the opposite sex as human do. More correctly, humans display homosexual behaviors for the same reasons that animals do. Animals behaviorist that specailize in differnent species can better explain to the layman, why these behaviors are displayed.

Give up the race baiting. It has no place here. Gays are not inferior to straights. They have the same rights as single heterosexuals.

You are so out there with all of your "hate" speech. There is no one trying to legislate homophobic hate. I wll certainly tell my children that marriage is between a man and a woman. I will not pretend that it should be otherwise. My children know, and respect gay individuals. My children are loving and kind. They don’t want to know about their sex life, and I don’t blame them.

Oh yes their is a gay agenda. You are not talking to some white bread dummie that has not be privy to the inner cirlce of the gay lifestyle. So knock it off. Not all gays are supportive of all of the same things, thank goodness.

I have every right to stand by my beliefs that are pretty evident. Marriage is between a man and a woman. I will speak my belifs whenever I wish. I will vote my beliefs.

Gays are free to have committment ceremonies, live together, what ever. But marriage is between a man and a woman.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/26/2009 6:49 pm

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animals are not homosexual. Period. Not true.

hahahaha KELLY OMG i swear, you just deny any science that you don’t like, don’t you?? it’s insane the way you just ignore anything you don’t want to agree with!

yes, there are homosexual animals, and homosexuality in animals has been seen, evidenced and proven by researchers who have much more information than you do.

Animals behaviorist that specailize in differnent species can better explain to the layman, why these behaviors are displayed

exactly, so maybe you should listen to them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior

This list includes animals (birds, mammals, insects, fish etc.) for which there is documented evidence of homosexual or transgender behavior of one or more of the following kinds: sex, courtship, affection, pair bonding, or parenting, as noted in researcher and author Bruce Bagemihl’s 1999 book Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity.

"No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphids. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue."

—Petter Bøckman

Gays are not inferior to straights. They have the same rights as single heterosexuals.

then why do they still fight for the same right - to marry whom they choose?

Oh yes their is a gay agenda. You are not talking to some white bread dummie that has not be privy to the inner cirlce of the gay lifestyle. So knock it off.

my darling, i was involved with a female for many years as loving partners - there is no gay agenda other than to have the same rights as straight couples - so you knock it off with your truly disgusting, prejudiced, biased, hateful B.S. you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and you are showing how ignorant you really are when you post untrue crap like that.

Marriage is between a man and a woman

why?

By Amanda C on 04/26/2009 10:28 pm

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Lemon Tea…animals are not homosexualS. No matter how you want to spin the information. Animals display behaviors that may label as homosexual in appearance. However, animals do not engage in penetration with the same sex to the exclusion of the opposite sex. Pair bonding, shared parenting , etc. listed are behaviors. They occur for many reasons in the animal world. Male dogs hump each other to establish dominance. Primates will offer sexual favors in exchange for food. Mares in the 3rd month of pregnancy may mount another due to hormonal changes. There is safety in numbers a a small group of animals may pair up to survive regardless of being the same sex. The list goes on…but the fact remains that animals do not engage in penetration with the same sex to the exclusion of the opposite sex. It does not happen. Period. It is described as BEHAVIORS even by the authors themselves . Animals are not homosexuals, these are behaviors displayed for lack of a better word. Big difference. There is most certainly a gay agenda. It is called such by some gay rights advocates. If they can call it such, then so can I. That is not a bad thing, to have an agenda. Since when is that a bad word…agenda. I have no idea why your name calling, vile post stands. Others get deleted for far less. I know PLENTY about what I am talking about…animals…and my own opinion on gay marriage. Marriage is between a male and a female. I support civil partnerships and commitment ceremonies for homosexuals.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/26/2009 11:23 pm

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sorry dear, you’re wrong and you can’t do anything about the truth of reality.

animals do not engage in penetration with the same sex to the exclusion of the opposite sex. It does not happen. Period

wrong. you must have ignored the existence of the black swan. homosexual black swancouples account for up to 20 percent of all pairings annually. almost a quarter of all families are parented by homosexual couples that remain together for years. at times, male couples use the services of a female by mating with her. once she lays a clutch of eggs, the wanna-be fathers chase her away and hatch the eggs. other times, they just drive away heterosexual couples from their nests and adopt their eggs.

this means: they want to be together, with the partner of the same sex, to the exclusion of female swans. wrong again kelly!

animals that live a completely homosexual life exist. this occurs especially among birds that will pair with one partner for life, which is the case with geese and ducks. four to five percent of the couples are homosexual. single females will lay eggs in a homosexual pair’s nest. it happens, kelly.

when you see a colony of black-headed gulls, you can be sure that almost every tenth pair is lesbian. the females have no problems with being impregnated, although, they cannot be defined as bisexual. if a female has sex with a male one time, but thousands of times with another female, most logical people would know that she is homosexual. this is the same way to have children is not unknown among homosexual people.

or have you ever heard of the the "Guianan-Cock-of-the-Rock" - males of this stunning perching bird delight in homosexuality. almost 40 percent of the male population engages in a form of homosexual activity and a small percentage don’t ever copulate with females.

well guess what! that means that YES - some animals DO engage in penetrative sex in exclusion to opposite-sex members of their species!

older male walruses are typically bi-sexual, mating with females during breeding season and copulating with other males the rest of the year. males rub their bodies together, embrace each other and even sleep together in water. homosexuality has been documented in almost 500 species of animals, signaling that sexual preference is predetermined. considered the closest living relative to humans, bonobos are not shy about seeking sexual pleasure. nearly all of these peace-loving apes are bisexual and often resolve conflict by the "make love, not war" principle. they copulate frequently, scream out in delight while doing so, and often engage in homosexual activities. about two thirds of the homosexual activities are amongst females. bisexuality is practiced throughout their entire lives. yes, they are behaviors - and animals show their desires and motivations through behavior. any animal lover would know that instinctively. that’s how we know when an animal is heterosexual, or homosexual - or that’s how we know when they enjoy eating a certain kind of food. this is how we know what an animal likes to eat - what they are driven NATURALLY to do, they do it and we observe it. saying their behaviors don’t show they are homosexual is ridiculous, kelly! LOL behaviors tell us what they like, and what they don’t like, and what their instincts are. animals have sex when they have the DESIRE to - just as humans. so when we observe homosexual behavior, we can safely conclude that those animals felt the urge to engage in that activity - that it pleases them to do so, and they wanted it to be that animal - male or female.

By Amanda C on 04/28/2009 12:24 pm

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Lemon Tea…I am not wrong and I am not your "dear".

Your little list does not prove homosexuality in animals. You have just posted a list of behavior that are displayed for many reasons that are species specific. Taken out of context regarding food availablity, hormonal surges during the seasons, and the availability of partners and safety issues are just a few of the things that effect animal behavior.

How silly to call those swans homosexuals! OMG…there are plenty of animals that only come together for the sexual act and then go separate ways. Many batchelor groups of animals pair up or herd up for protection. They are not in LOVE how silly! It is a question of survival…there is safety in numbers. Period.

Females will lay eggs in other nests…Yes that happens…many males in the animal kingdom do not get to mate. They do not measure up to the others, either by strength, or attaction, for the females. That is why certain substandard genetic do not survive…they do not measure up…they do not GET to breed. They are not ACCEPTED.

Once again Lemon Tea your lack of understanding of animal behavior is astounding. Female gulls do not have penetrative sex with members of the same sex. Simulative sexual behaviors happens for a number of reasons, one of which is to establish a pecking order of dominance.

Once again, Walruses NOT have penetrative sex. They have batchelor herds, as do horses.

Your comment that "any animal lover would know that instinctively. that’s how we know when an animal is heterosexual, or homosexual " is perhaps the single most ridiculous statement of this site. I am a prosfessional, expert on certain animals behaviors. You are trying to apply your own human desires to those of animals. How ridiculous.

Once again ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE PENETRATIVE SEX WITH THE SAME SEX TO THE EXCLUSION OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.

You have listed behaviors observed because of pecking orders, dominance, survival…not that animals choose to engage in penetration with the same sex. THEY DO NOT. And you have not proven otherwise.

You would be better off to just justify human homosexuality to a personal choice (as it is) and stop this frantic search to blame it on nature. Or prehaps you might ask yourself if homosexual humans may be acting out a desire for dominance, or protection, etc. as in the animal world….

That would be the better choice.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/28/2009 1:22 pm

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You have just posted a list of behavior that are displayed for many reasons that are species specific.

uh, yes, because every species of creatures have different physiologies and reasons for behaving the way they do. it’s logical - not all species act the same way - if that were true we’d have republican dolphins and democrat bottle-necks.

They are not in LOVE how silly! It is a question of survival…there is safety in numbers. Period.

typical. since these many animals do not couple together for survival - it is their instinct.

Female gulls do not have penetrative sex with members of the same sex.

uhhhhhh…. because they have nothing to penetrate with. many lesbians do not engage in penetrative sex, and they are still lesbians.

Simulative sexual behaviors happens for a number of reasons, one of which is to establish a pecking order of dominance.

and one of which is because they have the desire to couple with a member of the same sex. that means - those behaviors are instinctually homosexual. they can’t be heterosexual… so they must naturally be homosexual in desire.

I am a prosfessional, expert on certain animals behaviors. You are trying to apply your own human desires to those of animals.

what is your profession, and what is your expertise? i have no desire to couple with a black swan or walrus.

Once again ANIMALS DO NOT HAVE PENETRATIVE SEX WITH THE SAME SEX TO THE EXCLUSION OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.

yes they do and i provided you with scientific evidence for several EXCLUSIVELY HOMOSEXUAL couples in certain animal species. you are denying fact. that is your problem dear. also - most females don’t have something to "penetrate" with unless they use fingers - but they still couple with and form close bonds with females. that means they desire homosexual relationships - not a heterosexual relationship. if they did, they would form close bonds with a member of the opposite sex.

And you have not proven otherwise.

oh please, you didn’t read anything i gave you.

Or prehaps you might ask yourself if homosexual humans may be acting out a desire for dominance, or protection, etc. as in the animal world….

oh yes, because all gay couples have dominance issues. *snort*

i bet you’d say heterosexual couples have no dominance or submissive issues just to save your face.

By Amanda C on 04/28/2009 3:37 pm

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So sorry Lemon Tea…I know that this is hard for you to take. But it is…what it is….animals are not homosexual.

You have lost this debate.

Humping, mounting, sexual simulation are not homosexual acts…they serve a purpose in herd group, flocks…etc…you are in denial and have no understanding of animals and what is necessary for survival from different species and why. Pair bonding is not homosexual sex. Close bonds are not homosexual sexual acts.

I will close now with the same statement as before…Lemon Tea; " Perhaps you might ask yourself if homosexual humans may be acting out a desire for dominance, or protection, etc..as in the animal world"

But I will add that only humans then have penetrative sex to the exclusion of the opposite sex. = Homosexuality. It is a choice based on sexual preference.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/28/2009 9:59 pm

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That is YOUR opinion and as long as you don’t marry a woman, you’re fine. However, you do not get to dictate to others what their civil rights should or should not be, anymore than people were able to dictate that a white person could not marry a black person, once the Supreme Court straightened out THAT attempt at keeping rights away from a certain segment of society.

By DeBúrca obj on 04/24/2009 4:13 pm

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Joe…you are far from alone. This gay push to be preceived as "just like heterosexuals" is an illusion. This 1% has been over represented from Hollywood, to the mainstream liberal media. The lifestyle is not "just like the heterosexuals".

Most Americans have just come to accept what they say as truth because of the over representation. They push guilt and lies. I have been privy to the inner circle of gay couples, I had close friends… I saw much more than I cared to. No one should be told what they can or can not do behind closed doors, as long as it is legal….none of my business.

But that’s just it…they force it to be my business. It is everywhere, the over exposure and blatant propaganda. Our children are confused and we have every right to speak out.

I have come to believe what I do because of what I know…not out of a lack of knowledge on this subject. Some of my gay friends are mad that I do not agree with them, others respect my right to disagree. They understand that I do not seek to take away their individual rights, because I do not.

Behind closed doors is where any sexual proclivity belongs. Marriage is between a male and a female.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/24/2009 3:19 pm

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The lifestyle is not "just like the heterosexuals".

oh really? you have experience? what is it like? and what exactly do you mean by "homosexual lifestyle"? what’s the difference between a homosexual and heterosexual lifestyle? thank you for your detailed response in advance.

But that’s just it…they force it to be my business

actually, you are making it your business 100%. do you get involved in every heterosexual marriage to make sure it measures up to your standards of marriage? why do you care so much what private people do in their own churches and in their court hosues? if homosexuals had the equal right to get married, you wouldn’t have to hear about it dear.

They understand that I do not seek to take away their individual rights, because I do not.

then your "gay friends" are just as ignorant and uneducated as you are on their civil liberties.

Marriage is between a male and a female.

who says?

By Amanda C on 04/24/2009 4:27 pm

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Marriage is between a male and a female. who says? By Lemon Tea on 04/24/2009 5:27 pm

Well apparently plenty of citizens that did not vote for it….Must you insult even my friends? They are quite capable of standing up for their own rights. They understand that they can live in a state that has voted for it, and I have a right not to…if that is my choice.

I will not go into the differences between a heterosexual lifestyle and a gay lifestyle. Those that know are very aware that there is a difference, no matter how some in the homosexual community would like to pretend it isn’t.

Sex should be a private thing. I don’t care what is done behind closed doors.

Marriage is between a male and a female.

By Kelly In Texas on 04/24/2009 9:44 pm

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as i said in another post to you, the definition of "marriage" has never been static in any case, and at any given moment, different people already have different ideas of what it means.

in some cultures marriages are still arranged. in the past, marriages have been used to end wars or seal treaties. it was once expected that the father of a bride would be paid a dowry for the privilege of marrying her. in the early 20th century it was unheard of to have two working parents, but by the end of the 20th century it was common. definitions and ideas change over time.

They are quite capable of standing up for their own rights.

they were not standing up for their rights, they were voting on restricting the rights of others. there is a huge difference. it’s called prejudice.

Those that know are very aware that there is a difference, no matter how some in the homosexual community would like to pretend it isn’t.

go ahead, give me some examples. because as a woman who was invovled with another female for many years, we had the same relationship as i had with men - we got up, brushed our teeth, had breakfast, went to work, took care of our pets, watched tv, gardened, and went to sleep. with the men i have loved, the same routine. now, what were you saying?