Question of the Day | 10/05/2009 12:30 pm
Should Roman Polanski go to prison?

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He is not a pedophile. That is per the psychiatrists who evaluated him at Chino. Who are you to say her is. Who is everyon else to say he is? This is all so deplorable. This waving of the torches demanding the witch be burned at the stake.
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I wonder why you are so defensive of Him………
a 13 year old girl was sexually abused………….he even admitted that.
Isn’t it suspicious to be so defensive of this man???????????
He has a history of sexually abusing underage girls………….I’ve always thought that was identified as a Pedophile.
I guess from your comments you think he is innocent and shouldn’t be pursued for anything.
I also haven’t read anyone making comments about lighting matches to burn the witch. (as you say)
I’m not particularly defensive of him but I am going back to what happened in 1977 and 1978 and putting this into the proper perspective. Which few if any are. This was a closed matter back then. Until a judge decided it wasn’t. The same judge who closed the matter. Why no one is willing to see that is beyond me. Except perhaps that indeed they just simply want to burn a witch. The American people for some reason always seem to need to have a witch to burn.
Beware the young girls, as Dory Previn once put it in a song. She was talking about Mia Farrow. Who of course years later would be talking about her own daughter. Men and their Lolitas. And it doesn’t matter if they’re 13 or 18.
There is something wrong with luring a man and then screaming rape. Sorry but that’s how I feel. How I felt at the time. If she was old enough to take off her top and pose topless, she was old enough to know what she was doing. And obviously did.
I am an advocate for stalking victims. I know all about "guilty victim syndrome" and being revictimized and retraumatized. Been there, done it all. Many stalking victims are also sexually assaulted by their stalker at some point. I take it very seriously. Whether the victim is 13 or 31. I do not believe she was raped. He was guilty of statutory rape. He should have known better. But, well, Lolitas have their ways. She was not some innocent 13 year old girl dragged off the streets and raped as so many seem to be implying. A victim of herself as much as of him. He also a victim of himself as well as her. Both, really, again, victims of her mother. This most likely will become a trial and the truth will come out. I doubt anyone will like the truth. Americans don’t like truth. It disturbs them. It becomes a mirror for their complicity in things.
I am actually a bit black and white when it comes to sexual assault. If a man you don’t know comes up and grabs your butt, to me that’s sexual assault. If, however, you’re walking back and forth in front of him shaking your butt, forget it.
It’s a shame Dominick Dunne is not here to wax and wane about this. I suspect most would not like what he wrote either. And he probably would start with those words of Dory Previn. And remark on how odd it all is. Interconnected in a way. As we all are. And then comment about how both were innocent, both were guilty, both were victims.
Perhaps in a way I am defensive of him but I suspect I am really being defensive of Sharon Tate who is being victimized as well in all of this - she was not married to Mr. Perfect any more than many other women including Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis. But she was not married to a pedophile or a rapist. I defy anyone to find anyone who knew her who ever had an unkind word about her. Despite all the innuendo after the murders, during the trials, during this when it happened and now during this again. I defy anyone to find anyone who knew him at the time who ever had an unkind word about him. Or about them. Despite the innuendo there were no wild parties with platters of pills being passed around. No orgies.
And then the phone rang in London. He went nuts. His judgement was clouded. What was Lolita’s excuse? That sounds cruel but it’s honest. What was her excuse? She stood in the kitchen at Jack Nicholson’s house drinking champagne with Roman Polanski and Anjelica Huston. A cool chick she was. How Anjelica Huston described her. A chick. Not a little girl. He offered her part of a Quaalude. She took it. He didn’t slip it into her champagne. He didn’t tell her the champagne was fizzy grape juice. She knew what it was. She took her top off the day before. She took her clothes off that afternoon. Willingly.
Anjelica Huston defended him. She could have ended up destroying her career doing so. I suppose that makes her dangerous around children as some believe I am. Simply because she defended him. She really didn’t defend him so much as she simply told the truth. As she saw it . And she was there. None of us were. We can call into question the "he said, she said" but it is difficult if not impossible to call into question what Anjelica Huston saw for herself.
This is, again, about agenda. Growingly a political agenda. But also an agenda of advocates. Several of whom I intend never to speak to again as long as I live. They should know better just as Roman Polanski should have known better that day. Just as Samantha Geimer should have known better. And certainly just as her mother should have known better.
It was and is a tragedy. Something horrific that happened. To everyone. All of us. It was a reflection of mores at the time that were not healthy for our children. We should not glorify Lolitas. Nor should we glorify their men. I am not despite what seem apparently believing I am. I am, however, putting it into perspective. Lolitas and their men. You have to look at both.
The moral considerations aside the real issue here is the matter of the case itself. It was closed. Samantha Geimer has stated that in her statement in 2003. This is not about what she did or what he did. It is about what the judge did.
Do we really want our judges and our juries to be able to change their minds for no reason other than they have changed their minds after pleas are entered and agreements signed off on or after verdicts are rendered because someone has criticized their decisions? Do we want mob rule after the fact?
Do we really want judges who reverse themselves because it holds political advantage? That is what happened here. And so Roman Polanski left the country. If he fled as some claim, he fled the Nazis once more.
Pedophile: an adult who is sexually attracted to a child. Um, I think that pretty well desribes anyone who has sex with a child. He obviously was sexually attracted to the 13 year old or he would not have had sex with the minor. But if you don’t like the label pedophile, I am sure I can come with some terms that would be as equally apt and descriptive as pedophile.
We can judge any person based on "she said", "he said"…
She has a proof she said "no"? Nobody grabbed her and pulled in dark corner for rape. She was sexually active with adult boyfriend… Her mother brought her for hollywoodian adult soiree and left for night…Girl starlet wanted career advantage … Who knows exactly what and how it was?
At the same time we see vulgarity of american women portrait (Sex and the city) They open legs for any man passing by. American parents and schools supply teens with condoms. After that :"Ah,my child! Oh, my child!" sound at least as irresponsibility.
We should judge not Roman Polanski but ourselves for vulgar femminists ( buildig masculine muscular species with sexual "freedom")
And as result "Three million new infections of sexually transmitted disease occure annually among 13-to-19-year old"(NYTimes,1997). On
that social atmosphere Polanski’s behavior is perfectly appropriate. The root of evil is we all.
And we are not designed to change specific of creative nature psychology. We must adjust ourselves behavior or …live without Charles Chaplin, Woody Allen, Nabokov, Polanski and many others we .. love not for their mistakes , but their spiritual artistic achievement.
And as result "Three million new infections of sexually transmitted disease occure annually among 13-to-19-year old"(NYTimes,1997).
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And how many statutory rape charges have been filed where a minor was involved in the "transmission?" When it comes to statutory rape, it seems to be that only the men with money or the boys whose parents have money are charged. Usually after a parent screams rape.
Which is what happened here. Samantha Geimer did not scream rape. Her mother did. She did not go home and tell her mother she had been raped. Her mother found out after she told her boyfriend what had happened. No one knows if she told him she was raped. Even then there were some questions that weren’t asked of her. But were asked just the same. No one asked how old her other two sexual partners had been. Maybe they were 13. Maybe they were 15. Maybe they were 25. Maybe they were 45. We may yet find out now that Pandora’s Box has been reopened.
hmm ..don’t trust the judge, the girl or polanski.
don’ trust her mother either. Porn is the biggest industry in america. brings in more money than all of the sports combined. much of it with underaged kids. Polanski needs to do some time, he needs to make amends other than paying off the girl’s mom. the water has been too muddied to make a perfect decision but Polanski is just the tip of the iceberg. let’s not pretend different and make him pay for all..

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