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Margo Howard | 10/06/2009 10:45 am

A Stupid Human Trick, by Margo Howard

Margo Howard
Editor’s Note: A longtime journalist, Margo Howard went into the family business (her mother was the fabled Ann Landers) in the 1990s as Dear Prudence. Her broad experience and understanding of human nature provide answers for the troubled — and entertainment for everyone else. Margo’s advice column, Dear Margo, appears twice a week — on Thursdays and Fridays — on wowOwow.com.

I know, as I write this, it ain’t gonna win me any friends with some women (OK, feminists) but I honestly feel sorry for David Letterman. I am sympathetic to his situation, which is not to say that I don’t ache for his wife, as well. Can any of us really imagine what it’s like to be such a public person, and on television, at that, having to deal with this stuff so publicly? He did what many married men do: dallied with women from work. I mean, think about it: where would a guy who is locked up with writers all day and taping a show at night meet any women who were not in his workplace? At that deli down the street?

I do not know why people are in such a lather about this. Apparently when Ms. Burkitt was involved with the boss he was unmarried. Although certainly committed to Regina (recently Mrs. Letterman – after God knows how many years together) and overjoyed when they had a child – looking at his history makes this less than a big surprise. Rumor has it that the man had such an unpleasant first marriage and divorce that he decided one was enough. He was in his late 50s when he remarried. In his head I’m guessing he thought single, even when he did marry … which I suspect finally happened so the little boy would have married parents. Fooling around would not be unheard of in show business. Hell, in any business.

Many men are caught out in extramarital and workplace affairs, but their lives aren’t such that they have to inform to millions of people. And apparently keeping the secret wasn’t worth two million bucks to him. There’s a lot of talk in the public prints and of course the blogosphere about workplace harassment, in all its iterations. This is just me guessing, but my hunch is that not one woman he’s done the horizontal mambo with ever felt pressured. (Just as an aside, both I and my daughter would have volunteered. She happens to be 27 years younger than I am, and yet we both find him appealing and smart. Dark in nature, perhaps, but appealing.)

The workplace/HR issues seem to me a red herring. How far could someone rise in that organization from personal affection anyway? He doesn’t have a co-host, and Paul Shaffer seems pretty well-entrenched. Do please note: He never fired anyone when it was over. I also give him props that Ms. Burkitt was an average-looking young woman. He did not go on the hunt (or a hiring spree) with starlet types in mind. I am aware that my stance might seem odd coming from someone whose day job is being an advice columnist, but I am pragmatic and realistic. I think all the hoopla is so much noise, given what we know of Letterman and the way his office is run. Not that he asked, but when he’s through doing penance at home I think a trip to the jewelry store would be in order. So for what it’s worth, Dave, all the dames out there are not steamed at you. While Betty Friedan may be rolling over in her grave, some of us here like you just as much as we did before Assistant Gate.

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Connie  L
Right-on, Kay!! I completely agree.
By Connie L on 10/08/2009 9:27 am
R.J.B. Reed

There is no law that states sex between a boss and his or her subordinate is automatically sexual harassment, nor should there be.  Sexual harassment laws are important, but we also have to make sure we do not go overboard, either.

By R.J.B. Reed on 10/08/2009 11:33 am
T B

"It doesn’t matter if it was "between consenting adults", sex between a superior and an employee always counts as sexual harassment."

Where did you get your JD? Absolutes U School of Creative Law Interpretation?

Here’s a word I’ve used before…..CHOICE.

Women are responsible for their CHOICE to sleep with the boss.

If someone is PHYSICALLY FORCED into an act with the boss, well then that’s called rape or assault.

Sexual harassment means you consult an attorney or HR; not AFTER you sleep with the boss…INSTEAD of sleeping with the boss.

By T B on 10/08/2009 2:11 pm
Katharine Gray

Ho hum.  Dave Letterman is a whoredog.  Who cares? 

 

By Katharine Gray on 10/07/2009 9:48 pm
Rain in Minneapolis
Letterman’s worst nightmare.  Letterman has a false bravado on his show.  Opposite of his television persona, in real life he is constantly worried about his image and how he appears to the general public.  He reviews each show after the fact and critiques his every move and every word—beating himself up for not being perfect.  Letterman’s worst nightmare has come true of being exposed to the world at large in a negative light. 
By Rain in Minneapolis on 10/07/2009 10:28 pm
Lizzie R.
I have read all of these posts and am amazed at some of the really vitriolic ones. I wonder how many of you actually watch him, or if you are just being judgmental? I watch him every night and he’s just not quite as bad as some of you seem to indicate. I wonder if part of your judgment is because he leans to the left, and the Palin, incident which is enought to crucify him without this latest? Nobody has seemed to show this much outrage over Ensign, who theoretically paid a ransome of sorts - or Sanford. Men of power and fame have no problem with woman wanting them. He is no exception, with the big difference he made the news big time whereas others have gone unnoticed. 
By Lizzie R. on 10/07/2009 10:32 pm
Brenda Kloos

I support him for not going along with the extortian and I guess he made the right choice on that—given no good choices at the time, but no one got him in that spot but himself.

 I’m pretty disappointed, Margo, because I believe you have often taken the stance of "throw him to the curve" when a man cheats.  You acknowledge he was in a committed relationship and that he was marriage shy because of past experience, yet you seem to think not being legally married is a bright line that makes this not so bad.  I’m guessing he stated his commitment to his now wife and told her marriage was not necessary to prove his commitment.  Just guessing…

One point and one question.  The point is that workplace harassment is not just about the woman he might have currently been involved with, who may or may not have been on a par with him and thus able to freely consent.  It is also about the environment for all workers.  It is never a non-harassing environment for other subordinates when the boss is involved with one of the co-workers, no matter how nice and funny all the people involved may be.  The current "friend" always has a higher status and an ability to influence not available to the other workers.

 The question, though, is about your use of feminists.  It is being used lately as a dirty word, much like liberal.  When I hear some say are you a liberal in a tone like "are you evil"? I always try to step back and ask them to define  what they mean so I can answer point by point.  Yes, I believe in civil rights, no I don’t believe in [insert whatever crazy thing might come out].  So I will ask in a future column, please explain what is is you meant by feminist when you calmly stated with no regrets that you were aware you were going to upset the feminist.  

 I view feminism as (unfortunately still) standing up for women to be treated equally in the workplace, in business relationships, and so on.  Please tell me what you mean by it and why you find it so easy to not be concerned about dismissing us.

By Brenda Kloos on 10/08/2009 6:34 am
Margo Howard

because I believe you have often taken the stance of "throw him to the curve" when a man cheats. >

I don’t actually take that position as a matter of course. It always depends on the situation. (And I think you mean "kick him to the curb." It’s interesting how people hear things; another poster called Letterman a "whoredog," when I think she meant "horndog." I, myself, have a few of those pronunciation bloopers.)

By Margo Howard on 10/08/2009 12:48 pm
Margo Howard

 I view feminism as (unfortunately still) standing up for women to be treated equally in the workplace, in business relationships, and so on.  >

On this we agree. My approach is that I do not go in for gender politics, while some feminists will sail for any candidate, for example, simply because she’s female.

By Margo Howard on 10/08/2009 12:51 pm
Rainbow Power

Only one has the right to judge Letterman. That’s God.  If Letterman did anything wrong, it won’t go unpunished. 

People who call him a deviate, a harrasser, a civil rights violator, scum, one who exercised his "power", or any other name posters used, this is wrong.  It’s none of your business.   I haven’t seen his current wife post a tirade of accusations anywhere with the media like some posters have done here nor has she called him names in the media.  And, he’s still working, so his employer must not think he did anything to violate laws.  Taking the liberty of judgement, when you don’t have the right to make the judgement, is certainly telling. 

These same posters re-phrased Margo’s words and made them into something they were not.  Accusations against Margo were made in some posts.  What in the world is wrong with people nowdays?? 

 

You can’t depend on your judgement when your imagination is out of focus.
- Mark Twain’s Notebook

 

 

By Rainbow Power on 10/08/2009 8:35 am
Mary Larose Nett

David Letterman did the only sensible thing he could do.  I don’t understand people saying he would have been better off paying the blackmailer.  That makes no sense, it would have never ended.  He went on t.v. & told his side of the story.  From everything I’ve heard about the man, that must have been very hard for him to do as everyone says he is such a private person.  He did this because  gossip mags & shows would have been digging for the "dirt" & it would have eventually all come out anyway.  I do feel sorry for his wife.  People say  he wasn’t married but they had been living together for a long time.  This is something that only the two of them can try & work out together in private.

As for the sexual harassment people are talking about, come on people, it takes TWO to tango.  Please.  If you don’t like what is happening in the workplace there are other jobs.  I would take the most menial job in town before I would sleep with someone that I didn’t care for just to keep a job.  Yuck.

Interesting how we are all putting our spin & judgements on this situation when none of us know all the facts.  What about innocent until proven guilty?  David was the one being blackmailed remember?   

 

 

By Mary Larose Nett on 10/08/2009 9:04 am
DAWN TRAN

Margo was right on about the Letterman ‘scandal’. While I absolutely

do not condone what he did, it does not appear as though these

women were naive youngsters. I do feel for his wife though. This is

humiliating for her. It remains to be seen whether he can repair the

damage there and keep his pants on in the future.

By DAWN TRAN on 10/08/2009 9:36 am
Paul W

I don’t understand why people just don’t act like adults and live and let live.  Nobody was hurt, there was no force or extortion from the involved parties except from the blackmailer.  It’s pretty obvious here that no hostile work environment was created, and I have full confidence that the people on set were mature enough to own their feelings.  The people involved in whatever sexual escapades went on in their private lives were not forced and made their own choices. 

From a pretty good Star Trek episode:

Riker: "Captain, it’s about Commander Daren.  I’m beginning to feel uncomfortable with her requests."

Picard: "Because of her relationship with me."

Riker. "Yes sir."

Picard: "Well, are her requests unusual?"

Riker: "No sir."

Picard: "Would you say she’s just trying to do her job?"

Riker: "Yes sir."

Picard: "Then let her do it.  And feel free to do yours.  Ship’s resources are your responsibility, and I’ve always had complete confidence in your judgment."

This is the way business environments SHOULD be.

By Paul W on 10/08/2009 11:26 am
Laura Scott
Reading through a lot of the comments….wow. I don’t know about everyone else, but personally, I rather not be so judgemental unless I am in possession of ALL the facts…not just one side or the other.
By Laura Scott on 10/08/2009 11:37 am
Cecile Tunstead

Wow, the way everyone is commenting kind of reminds of a car wreck or a train wreck.    Everyone has to slow down and gawk at what is in essence a personal tragedy.

By Cecile Tunstead on 10/08/2009 1:29 pm