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Travel on wOw | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

There are thousands of places to travel to before you die. What are your top three?

There are thousands of places to travel to before you die – and many best-selling books written about them. What are your top three? Join Candice Bergen and the wOw Women in the conversation …

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Judith Martin

Judith Martin | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Judith Martin: 'Once You've Found It, Why Shop Around?'

It’s no use; I’ll never get there. Time was when I went everywhere in connection with my father’s United Nations assignments. (I still get mileage from having climbed to Machu Picchu on donkey-back when nobody had even heard of it; and from staying at the Peninsula Hotel in Hong Kong when a three-bedroom suite was $12 a night and the streets were full of magicians performing by firelight.) Then my husband and I made annual trips to Spain, following the feria circuit from small town to small town. But that was before we rediscovered Venice. Now we may dream of other places, but when it comes down to planning a trip, it is always Venice. Once you’ve found it, why shop around?
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney Has a Thousand Places to See Before She Dies

Yes, there are thousands of places to travel to before I die but I probably won’t see any of them. I have terrible jet lag and always feel sick when I travel far away both while I’m there and then for days when I get back. I’ll doubtless get to Europe and London again and I keep threatening to go to St. Petersburg, but I have no plans at the moment.
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Liz Smith on Her Last Trip and Other Destinations

My top three places are Greece, Italy and France. I also liked Turkey and Russia and Australia.

And Fiji and Hawaii and Mexico and Costa Rica and Canada. I can take or leave Great Britain and I have decided that observing the poverty in Africa, Asia or the Middle East would break my spirit right in two. So next I will opt for seeing America as a finale!  
Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen: Out of Africa

I always loved historic novels but also pure travel memoirs like Paul Theroux. I loved Alan Moorehead’s The White Nile and The Blue Nile and have visited most of the countries in that book. That was a great read. Of course, Out of Africa was an absolute favorite and I spent a lot of time in Kenya. Beryl Markham’s West With the Night, also set in Kenya. But all the countries I traveled 40 years ago are no longer recognizable and we have such lovely houses that I don’t travel much now. Especially when I spent the last five years going back and forth to L.A. twice a month.

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Andrea Brandon

I’ve been pretty much everywhere I’ve ever wanted to go…….except sailing the North Mariana Islands. Hopefully this winter.

Return to Greece and sail the Greek Isles.

Bora Bora again. Yep, more sailing.

By Andrea Brandon on 06/05/2009 12:15 am
joan larsen
Andrea … the beauty of the islands themselves, but my experiences underwater both there and in the paradise of Palau, are truly wonderful.  Have you sailed the Kimberley at the Top End of Western Australia from Broome to Darwin?  That is one of the last of the untouched pieces of our world - the forgotten world?
By joan larsen on 06/05/2009 1:22 am
Andrea Brandon

Joan,

Yes, I have been diving in the Kimberley about 15 years or so ago and it is indeed gorgeous. Definitely takes you back in time. Went with a dear friend, his wife, and a small group of people. Now retired, he used to teach kinesiology at UCLA; he’s a renowned diving authority and has written several books about diving. Palau is his favorite place. What an experience going with them.

But diving isn’t my passion;  sailing is. When we were there I checked into leasing a sailboat for another trip, but but I didn’t care for the boats or the arrangements. I’ve checked back over the years and not much change. A sailing buddy checked again more recently and had the same experience. Now if I were still into diving I’d be there in a New York minute.

By Andrea Brandon on 06/05/2009 10:36 am
joan larsen

Andrea,  The thing about the Kimberley is that you can actually wade at low tide and see the most beautiful underwater displays.  It is here we saw the elusive blue octupus and photographed it.  A gorgeous deep blue, its looks are deceiving as I believe it is the only poisonous octopus.  That in itself does not bother me — as I have had many such encounters in other places.  Normally, you find that unless you pose a threat, the animal is not interested in you as prey — of course, there are exceptions.  But for those of us who choose to take our chances, our world opens up in a way that we would never see otherwise.  In the Kimberley inland - when needed - a helicopter would land on the beach and bring us inland to a place without roads or trails and yet with waterfalls and rock sculptured into forms of incredible beauty that only a few have ever seen.  The memories remain so vivid.

I must add that I totally agree with the writer here who said that our own country can easily hold its own in wondrous place to see.  As I look at a U.S. map, there is not a road I have not been on more than once - and a few that we should not have ventured into without 4-wheel drive, giving us close calls of never getting out (before cell phones).  I personally find Sedona, AZ the most breathtakingly sited town in our country.  For red rock, there is no equal to Arches National Park in Utah — and hiking in a few miles brings you to wonders that do not exist from the road.  Monument Valley, AZ takes my breath away as does the Eastern route into Yosemite when seen from the heights.  Majesty - the word must have been invented there.  Jumping borders, the Canadian Rockies are splendor that must be seen to be believed.  The danger with bears - especially in the earlier years with fewer tourists as I would go as a child - has given me more than my share of "starts" when we have come face to face, but when I hike now, chance encounters are more the name of the game.  At one time, the area was "the bears’ world!)  So yes, we DO have the glories right at our own doorstep.

 

By joan larsen on 06/05/2009 1:07 pm
Andrea Brandon

Blue octopus - sounds truly amazing. Mother Nature certainly is full of surprises. I’m not sure I’m up to dodging creatures that could be dangerous. I guess I’m more of the "swim with the dolphins" in Moorea. A far cry from your face-to-face with Papa Bear.

Some friends just got back from San Alfonso del Mar in Algarrobo, Chile; this is the largest man-made salt-water pool/lagoon in the world - about 3300 long. Deep enough for small boats, jet skiing, even scuba diving………..except there’s no plant-life or fish or anything to make it entertaining, they said.

Yes, indeed, our own country has so much to offer, so much to see and do. I’ve never quite understood going to theme parks when there are so many places rich in culture, beauty, and history. I once spent 3 days straight in the Smithsonian and would have stayed longer if I didn’t need to be elsewhere the next day.

By Andrea Brandon on 06/05/2009 6:56 pm
joan larsen

Andrea .   .   .  as you might guess, I too have seen the photos of this largest swimming pool, wishing somehow it was my own as for half or more of my life I lived to swim long distances without turning, without the waves, and - of course - there was no such conditions that were so perfect.  It is set apart, but so close to the larger cities of Chile, like Valparaiso.  Perfect location.  . like a dream.  Few Americans seem to know Chile.  They think of it as "South America" all balled into one . . and it is not.  Chile is European, cosmopolitan, charming — a 2500-mile-long string bean with its own islands, icebergs in the south that are dreamlike, and scenery to kill for.  In its center is the city of Puerto Montt on the coast, flanked by turquoise blue clear lakes that reflect the Fuji-type volcanoes fringed with snow — you know, the perfect ones with the small holes with smoke coming out.  Yes, if fit, you can try to climb the famous Oscorno volcano … but we mortals instead will stand forever and gape at this other-worldly beauty.  I have been on a very remote beach - hard to get to but worth it - far to the south, and suddenly like in a movie script a gaucho on horseback galloped down the beach to nowhere.  Did I die and go to heaven.  Close.  For those who ski - yes, ski resorts.  For those that mountain climb - you can try but it is one of the riskiest climbing areas on earth.  The katabatic winds sweep down the mountains - well, like a roller coaster picking up speed.  One day I was one of the unlucky ones, already knowing the winds were far too high and on my way down when a 100mph gust drove me to the cliff edge.  The end result was not the most wonderful - let’s put it that way.  But would I go back and try for it again?  Those who know me know I am not easily daunted. 

I think Chile is one of the best-kept secrets on Earth and when I return for yet another go-around, I still pretend it is my own.

By joan larsen on 06/05/2009 9:05 pm
Andrea Brandon

I’ve not been to Chile - you’re right. It MUST be one of the best kept secrets. Now how did I miss this? My climbing or heavy duty hiking days are over [am on my second round of Synvisc] but the rest sounds sensational. [I could live without the cliffs.] I just checked out some beautiful photographs of Osorno Volcano. That’s some 8700 feet high!

 I just love your travelogues, Joan. Thanks.

By Andrea Brandon on 06/05/2009 9:42 pm
joan larsen

Andrea — perhaps you are aware of these magnificent sculpture gardens in Victoria Australia, recently burned.  If this site works, you will be able to see one of the gorgeous manmade wonders of that continent:

Click here: Bruno Torfs - Art & Sculpture Garden - art, fantasy, and Other

Enjoy!!!!!

By joan larsen on 06/05/2009 9:58 pm
Andrea Brandon

Joan,

I have seen the Sculpture Garden - a different trip, to Melbourne for a seminar of some sort. I remember that the "Garden" was some distance from the hotel and I really didn’t want to go for some reason…….but was so glad I did. I would have been sad to have missed out on this. And no, I had no idea it had been destroyed by fire. Oh how terribly sad. The sculptures were priceless.

While your link did not allow me into the "Garden" I found another one that shows an amazing slide show of his work. Thank goodness he took photographs! While the photos are wonderful, they do little justice to the beauty of the sculpture when seen in person. Everyone must view the slideshow.

http://www.brunosart.com/

Check out the "Rebuilding" webpage for information on the current status. Good news.

http://www.brunosart.com/rebuilding.htm

In the middle of the above webpage there is another slideshow, this time showing how he found the sculptures after the fire. He said most of the damage came from the falling trees. I just felt so sad when I watched it. Can you imagine? Your life’s work gone up in smoke? But he has an indomitable spirit and I’ve no doubt he will recreate the beautiful setting.

Thanks for reminding me of this most unique treasure, Joan.

By Andrea Brandon on 06/05/2009 10:40 pm
James the Game
I know this is going to sound strange, but I have no interest in traveling whatsoever.
By James the Game on 06/05/2009 12:22 am
Chloe Weatherford

nope…not strange at all James!!

Thankfully, my family hasn’t been affected by the economic downturn.

Regretfully, whenever we tell people we don’t travel often, they assume it’s because of NSF.

My husband and I enjoy the nature in our backyard. We aren’t ‘hurting’ for money. We are homebodies.

Is that so wrong???

By Chloe Weatherford on 06/05/2009 12:10 pm
Irish Eyes NY

No James: not strange, I know alot of people who feel the same.

I personally would love to travel more than we do. My husband has a fear of flying, so we mostly drive to our destinations. I did however, travel to Paris, Zermat Switzerland (thought I had died and gone to heaven), and Italy back in 99 with my son and his family. Would love to go back and also see the rest of Europe especially Ireland.

So the top  3 destinations for me would be: Ireland, Greece & Spain.

By Irish Eyes NY on 06/06/2009 12:01 pm
James the Game
Irish: Yeah, I’ve heard Ireland is sweet. There is so much in the U.S. I haven’t seen: Mount Rushmore, etcetera.
By James the Game on 06/06/2009 12:57 pm
KatyDid Wells

James, you remind me of my first husband (and no, that’s not an insult). :-) It’s only that he always said that there was so much in the U.S. yet to see, he had no interest in traveling elsewhere.  To each his own. Some people find contentment right at home, but as for me, I want to see it all… Luckily, my husband now is a traveler as well, which makes each new place twice as sweet since we get to share it.

The U.S. is unique and breathtaking and I’ve traveled to the majority of it. I’ve driven across country six times, traveled to nearly every state including Alaska and Hawaii, and even lived in a half-dozen different states in my adult life, but until recently I never had the opportunity to go abroad and now that I have, I want more! 

Last year, we went to Southern Germany, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, and Austria and not only do I want to go back to these places (soon and often), but I want to keep going!  Zurich was fascinating, but I feel as though I only touched the tip of the iceberg (the Swiss Alps were wonderful).  I adore Southern Germany and I completely fell in love with Salzburg, but I still haven’t seen Vienna and there were so many towns in Germany that I also didn’t have time to see.  I also want to see Northern Germany and Italy, Greece, France, England, Ireland, Prague… Now that I’ve finally fulfilled the dream to get to Europe, I can’t get enough! 

It’s the history and grandeur that has captivated me.  In Munich, we sat outside at a cafe in the moonlight in the shadow of the Cathedral - incredible.  We visited ancient castles dotted across the countryside that now stand in ruins, yet we couldn’t help but imagine the former residents and their lives.  On our travels, we stayed a night in Oberau where we could see Hitler’s Eagle’s Nest up on the mountain in the distance from our room.  When in Dachau, we experienced the striking dichotomy of the quaint little town and the concentration camp that stands alongside it.  In Salzburg we looked up at HohenSalzburg, the castle that sits above the city, knowing that even when Mozart lived there, he too looked up at that "old castle" that was already centuries old! 

If I had the resources, I’d travel constantly, but alas, I’ll have to dream and carefully plan, but it’s a guarantee that I’ll get to Europe again.  I’ve also studied Russian history (and love Russian novels) so Russia is also on my to-do list.  I’ve never had as great a desire to go to Central or South America (I’ve never even been to Mexico) or to visit Asian countries.  Granted, I’d love to see the remnants of Incan or Mayan civilizations or view the Great Wall, and I certainly wouldn’t mind a chance to experience the uniqueness and beauty of Japan, but since the fiscal reality means I have to pick and choose, I’ll choose Europe.  There’s enough there to keep me busy and visiting for many years to come!

By KatyDid Wells on 06/06/2009 3:14 pm
James the Game
I hope you have fun, Kat.
By James the Game on 06/06/2009 4:25 pm