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Travel on wOw | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

There are thousands of places to travel to before you die. What are your top three?

There are thousands of places to travel to before you die – and many best-selling books written about them. What are your top three? Join Candice Bergen and the wOw Women in the conversation …

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Judith Martin

Judith Martin | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Judith Martin: 'Once You've Found It, Why Shop Around?'

It’s no use; I’ll never get there. Time was when I went everywhere in connection with my father’s United Nations assignments. (I still get mileage from having climbed to Machu Picchu on donkey-back when nobody had even heard of it; and from staying at the Peninsula Hotel in Hong Kong when a three-bedroom suite was $12 a night and the streets were full of magicians performing by firelight.) Then my husband and I made annual trips to Spain, following the feria circuit from small town to small town. But that was before we rediscovered Venice. Now we may dream of other places, but when it comes down to planning a trip, it is always Venice. Once you’ve found it, why shop around?
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney Has a Thousand Places to See Before She Dies

Yes, there are thousands of places to travel to before I die but I probably won’t see any of them. I have terrible jet lag and always feel sick when I travel far away both while I’m there and then for days when I get back. I’ll doubtless get to Europe and London again and I keep threatening to go to St. Petersburg, but I have no plans at the moment.
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Liz Smith on Her Last Trip and Other Destinations

My top three places are Greece, Italy and France. I also liked Turkey and Russia and Australia.

And Fiji and Hawaii and Mexico and Costa Rica and Canada. I can take or leave Great Britain and I have decided that observing the poverty in Africa, Asia or the Middle East would break my spirit right in two. So next I will opt for seeing America as a finale!  
Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 06/04/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen: Out of Africa

I always loved historic novels but also pure travel memoirs like Paul Theroux. I loved Alan Moorehead’s The White Nile and The Blue Nile and have visited most of the countries in that book. That was a great read. Of course, Out of Africa was an absolute favorite and I spent a lot of time in Kenya. Beryl Markham’s West With the Night, also set in Kenya. But all the countries I traveled 40 years ago are no longer recognizable and we have such lovely houses that I don’t travel much now. Especially when I spent the last five years going back and forth to L.A. twice a month.

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Rainbow Power

Many people don’t realize that the United States is actually the Land of Opportunity when deciding "where to go".  Many persons want to travel to the Orient, or to Sweden, or to some other place on another continent, but have you visited a lot of places in the United States?

It’s fun to take visual tours of places in the United States to see the wonderments of our country.  Chances are you will find some really interesting places to visit which you never knew were here.

I’m still waiting to go to Hawaii…. I really want to hula dance on Hawaiian sand, while I’m drinking a Mai Tai.

 

By Rainbow Power on 06/05/2009 6:53 am
Barbara
I love going just about anywhere, whether in the US or other countries.  I enjoy seeing different geographical wonders, experiencing different cultural nuances, savoring new food experiences.  I’ve been fortunate to have been able to travel to various places around the world and I can’t think of many that I have not enjoyed.
By Barbara on 06/05/2009 7:09 am
Van Derstap

1 Havana (to dance, dance, dance)

2 Madrid (tapas & vino blanco)

3 Paris (walk and wander)

By Van Derstap on 06/05/2009 7:33 am
EKA -

Now that Cuba is opening up, and it’s about time, isn’t it, I’d love to go there also. 

But I would have loved to be there during the heyday in the 50s !! 

By EKA - on 06/05/2009 8:08 am
MK P
I’m with you on Cuba — EKA — I’d also love to go there.
By MK P on 06/05/2009 8:45 am
joan larsen
EKA … as a child growing up, Cuba was so close to our coast that our family thought it was the place to vacation.  A different area, permeated with the sights and sounds of Hemingway.  It was a time when I did scrapbooks — who didn’t way back then.  And so there I am in photos on Verodero Beach, and on our stays at San Souci Hotel, the Havana newspaper still noted visitors from the States — so I have the yellowed clippings of our listed names during our visits.  Today would I go?  If I were to make close-by choices, perhaps not, as other islands are far more beautiful … but like you, I guess my curiosity would win out on that one. 
By joan larsen on 06/05/2009 10:24 am
EKA -

Hi Joan, I enjoyed your earlier post , knowing that you are the MOST traveled member of our group, to the MOST exotic places … lucky you. 

 I guess I really wish I could be in the Havana of yesteryear, not the relic it is today. To be doing the mambo to Prez Prado  while watching Meyer Lansky and Frank Sinatra and Ava Gardner at a nearby table … the decadence and fun, never to be repeated. But I like the idea of opening the country to Americans once again.

By EKA - on 06/05/2009 1:08 pm
Dora M

Go, EKA, go to Cuba soon! (Not that I’m biased just because I was born there, haha!) But there’s something really special about that place, as Joan says, it’s admittedly not the most beautiful island but definitely worth experiencing IMHO.  After going five years ago for the first time since I left at the age of three I was struck by the fact that the word that best sums it up is "bittersweet", I expected to see poverty and need and that part was worse than I had imagined (especially in the small towns across the island that rarely get seen by tourists, everyone typically goes to La Habana and Varadero) but I have to say that the PEOPLE were much more wonderful than I could have ever imagined.  It’s an odd place, people there dance and laugh through their struggle and it’s been so isolated for so long that it just feels authentically weatherbeaten and raw but there’s also an innocence and sweetness to it that I don’t know how long will last after it finally opens up (which of course I think is 50 years overdue…).

 Also, my three choices right now include a trip to Africa and I had selected Botswana and Namibia, so to hear your endorsement, Joan, was perfect :)  New Zealand and Amsterdam. 

By Dora M on 06/06/2009 1:55 am
joan larsen

Oh my gosh - Dora!! Big hi’s .   .   . and from my own experience when life has dealt some cruel blows, start planning one of those journeys now as the reading, the planning is so much part of the whole experience.  It is also "the carrot" that we all need to fulfill our dreams.  Let me know if it will be the best of the best - Namibia/Botswana combination as so much of your enjoyment is in the guide who knows that you want to get into out-of-the-way almost "secret" places that only one born and raised there will know so well.  I know that person - a person who has written coffee table books on that piece of the world.  Down there you can travel close to animals in small open-topped cars - not like the zoo of Kenya experience.  YOU are alone in this wilderness and will see African animals that are not seen elsewhere.  Have you heard of the desert elephant that goes right to the Atlantic shore in Namibia?  The mountain zebra who is mostly seen in the heights?  I am a reptile afictionado as you know, and my goal was a spitting cobra close range.  The guide had never had anyone ask to search for one before - but my dreams were answered, letting a couple of us see him spit his venom at close range.  Incredible. 

And I have never ever seen or heard of a lion digging a cave at a water hole that drew all the the larger animals in Namibia — and yet we saw and photographed this phenomenom.  Lying hidden like a sniper in a fox hole, he observed the animal world in front of him, planning his move.  Well, off and running for prey several times and thank God he did not win out as I cannot stand death.  But our photos are of behavior rare in lions and in isolated Namibia we were alone for this event. 

In Botswana it is all tenting, with hippos coming out of the Okavango Delta at night to graze.  Looking out, we were always surrounded by hippos, some brushing against the tent in their quest for greenery.  The thrills never stopped, nor did our memories.

As for New Zealand, I always thought it might be wonderful to live with such gentility and in such beautiful surroundings with so much to see and do outdoors.  The South Island - and I love Christchurch as a city - is the greatest attraction but nothing is too far away.  But we all know on trips that the added plus is the "people element" - and sometimes, it is those moments when we connect so well with another in a faraway place that provides that flash of memory that causes us to smile long after.

Dora, your choices are such good ones that you can’t go wrong - and do read and plan, using that as the carrot taking your mind off now.  When you can, get going as the charge the change of scene give is priceless.  We only live once.

By joan larsen on 06/06/2009 11:01 am
Dora M
HI, Joan!  As always, it’s so wonderful to read your posts, and dangling a carrot with Botswana and Namibia is exactly what I am doing right now, you’re description of what you experienced there sounds like a dream come true.  I was hoping to go in September (Carol would spank me for planning it so soon :) but it turns out it’s going to be delayed a bit but I truly can’t wait and your advice to read and plan is very well taken, it will be like getting a jump start on my travels.  So much wonderment, beauty and life out there to see and absorb, NOTHING is going to stop me!
By Dora M on 06/06/2009 1:30 pm
joan larsen

Dora,  Love that positive attitude you have!!!  And have had you in my thoughts each day.  Looking back, when I too was in a situation like yours - not the same but close - I too picked the one journey that I just was NOT going to miss in my lifetime.  While I convalesced, I became an expert on Antarctica, my own choice - as it turned out to be heaven.  But mind off myself, my excitement built and so did my determination to go.  By the time I was well enough, I felt like the world’s expert on my destination and the level of anticipation drowned out any sorrows that I had left. 

Your choice is perfection, but I always have another top place in the running just in case I have bit off more than I can physically chew.  Either way, I am going to go!!!  Keep me up on all of your thoughts - please!!! And I send you love.

 

 

 

 

By joan larsen on 06/06/2009 4:48 pm
Dora M

Dear Joan, sorry I didn’t see your response until now.  Thank you so much for your warm thoughts, I was very glad to hear that our girl was able to get you some help with your back and hope you are feeling better by the minute (isn’t she the best?)

As far as my trip goes I am completely taking your advice, researching away!  I had decided I was going to go to Africa in September because there is a seminar being held by a writer that I love, Martha Beck, at a reserve called Londolozi that’s on the South Africa/Botswana border, the seminar was only five days so of course I wanted to spend more time traveling after.  As it turns out out I won’t be able to make it after all because my treatment will be extended a little longer than I expected.  I am pretty sure she is going to do the seminar next year too and if that’s the case I think that I should shift my focus to New Zealand as my dangling carrot; Africa will be a subsequent celebratory trip, and the second in a long line of them I hope.  And to be honest, any new place I go to, near or far, will be a treat, I’m feeling very much in soak-up-life-like-a- sponge mode lately :)

By Dora M on 06/08/2009 12:46 am
joan larsen
Dora … I find that portions of New Zealand are so stunningly beautiful that I find them providing what I call a "spiritual experience" — that hard-to-explain sense of peace that we find we often need, making it a particularly good choice.  You certainly will not be sorry.  The company we most often use - Zegrahm Expeditions (the tops) is making it easy by using their wonderful ship as home and taking you ashore for day trips, more often than not to tantalizing places most travel will not get you to.  You might want to get their brochure, Dora, just to whet the appetite.  You can always stay on longer afterwards for lounging.  Our Botswana guide headquarters at the Reserve you mentioned as their expert on leopards - but he is the expert on everything. . again I think with Zegrahm.  I do subscribe to the dangling carrot as the reading gives you motivation to get better and get going … I have been in a similar position to you and found that knowing my dreams would be fulfilled was the answer to prayers.  I am thinking of you, dear Dora —- and if you feel a hug, you know where it has come from!!  Joan
By joan larsen on 06/08/2009 1:55 am
Jeannot Kensinger
For the moment I have one goal in travel. April 3 2010 Foligno Italy. That day would be the 100th birthday of my mother born there with Belgian parents.  She always wanted to go back and never did. I will do it for her. (If I save up enough, haha )
By Jeannot Kensinger on 06/05/2009 7:48 am
Chrome Toe

I like to travel but I’m not "passionate" about it. I prefer to ride my motorcycle. My number 1 top travel destination is across the U.S on my motorcycle. My number 2 is NYC. WHICH I am going there in September! As far as out of country goes… not real sure. Probably Thailand, Vietnam, maybe China. Just because it’s a truly foreign culture and country to me. Greece and Italy are my "food" fantasies. But really…. anywhere on my motorcycle.

By Chrome Toe on 06/05/2009 8:11 am