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Question of the Day | 10/08/2009 2:00 am

Wannamaker's, Oldsmobile, Polaroid and PanAm … What defunct brands do you now miss?

Join Liz Smith and Joan Ganz Cooney on a walk down memory lane.
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 10/08/2009 12:00 am

Favorite Places and Brands That Liz Smith Adored (and Are Now Extinct)

Let’s see, there are so many of them I miss. But I miss the actual restaurants and nightclubs called Stouffer’s, Schrafft’s, Horn & Hardart, the Forum of the 12 Caesars, Romeo Salta, Quo Vadis, the Stork Club, El Morocco, Toots Shor’s and the Blue Angel and the Bon Soir. But I see you are thinking of "brands" one used to see in advertising. How about RCA: His Master’s Voice … Lucky Strike Green … Hostess Fruit Pies … the Edsel, Pontiacs, Thunderbirds, etc. On the other hand, if you tune in to TV’s "Mad Men" you’ll discover a number of defunct brands.

And while we’re in this vein of thinking, how about the ad campaign devised by the ad genius Mary Wells Lawrence (now of wOw fame). Who can ever forget her productions of "I Love New York," with its attendant music and its VIP stars?

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 10/08/2009 12:00 am

Joan Ganz Cooney: 'This Is Where We Came In'

I don’t miss brands so much as I miss the way we lived in earlier periods of my life. For instance, my father used to get up from the dinner table about once a week and say, "Let’s go to a movie." And we’d all jump up and have no idea what was playing at either theater in Phoenix, walk in in the middle of the movie, have no problem with understanding what was going on, and at some later point my father would say, "Let’s go. This is where we came in." No young person today would have the slightest notion of what "this is where we came in" means; it is a phrase that is forever gone from the language.

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Callie O
I, too!  I miss her dreadfully!
By Callie O on 10/08/2009 10:38 pm
joan larsen
Callie … I have still my best best friend from age 6 who I see or talk to every single day … and I wonder if anyone but me still has a good friend (albeit in San Diego) who I have had since age ONE????  I think I am beating everyone out.  These gals and more are so precious to me.
By joan larsen on 10/09/2009 3:35 pm
C jay

Does anyone remember the "Shaney Man" who would go up and down alleys tooting a horn to pick up trash (to recycle - they were millionaires!) on horse-drawn trailers? They were not unlike the iceman trucks - we ran after those trucks when I was a wee child, catching the wide drips sloshing off the rear of those truck, and slithering off the ice blocks, splashing the frigid water on our feet and legs.

Glenda, what is a BFF?

By C jay on 10/08/2009 8:49 pm
Glenda Glynn
C Jay —— BFF — Best Freind Forever!  And, that she is and will ever be.  It’s funny, we can finish each other’s sentences.  We have been known to be thinking about the same thing at the same time.  It’s really spooky sometimes. 
By Glenda Glynn on 10/09/2009 9:36 pm
C jay

OMG - of course! I had a BBF who passed away in ‘92 and it broke my heart. The whole horrible experience was almost too much for me. We were the same way. BBFs know more about one another than their own families know - that’s what I realized at my BBFs funeral … so sad!

By C jay on 10/09/2009 10:19 pm
Barbara

I am from Detroit.  I remember Hudson’s department store, especially the flagship store downtown with the beautiful brass elevator doors.  (When they closed and basically abandoned the building, vandals were allowed to strip all the beautiful interior furnishings.)  This store was where I learned what a mezzanine was.  Going downtown to see Santa was a production every year.  My mom would buy all of our school clothes there every fall but we walked out so breezily.  Everything was delivered for free.  The next day the big dark green Hudson’s truck would come, the driver would open our screen door, announce "Hudsons" and put the packages in the foyer.  (The gas and water meter readers would also just walk in the back door, head downstairs to read the meter and walk back out.  Those were such safe and idyllic days!)

And Sanders ice cream shops with their fabulous cream puffs and bumpy cake.

 Vernors ginger ale.

The Edsel car and the Ford Rotunda, which had a fabulous Christmas display every year.  It burned down in the 60’s when it caught on fire while they were repairing the roof.

Daly’s drive in where we would get a Daly burger, fries and a milk shake.  All the teens would drive through to see who was there and had been lucky enough to get a spot to be able to order.

It seemed like there were a lot more local brand names rather than the more anonymous national chains and brands we have now.  So it was very special to travel because you would experience very different stores and products in different cities.  Everything is a national brand sold in a national store now. 

By Barbara on 10/08/2009 2:23 pm
Zera Lee

They started selling Vernors here in Minnesota, but only in cans. IMHO, the can ruins the flavor - making it no better than any other ginger ale. :-(

I’m from Mich. too. Used to make runs to the Fanta distributor in Detroit to restock the pop machine.

By Zera Lee on 10/08/2009 3:36 pm
C jay

and … Barbara, New Era Potato Chips and their infamous Kosher ones made for Jewish Holy Days - I have a photo of them in fact! My grandmother made them in her basement for New Era supplying all the taverns around Chippewa Lake, and the Muskeogan River areas, up to Long Lake in TC! What about the "porceline room?" Do YOU remember what that was?

While our Thanksgiving dininer was being prepared the men in the family would take us down to "the parade," where we’d wait for Santa, sitting on their shoulders, along Woodward Avenue. Later, when I was older, I’d meet my dad under Kern’s clock and we’d go to Eastern Market for a "corned beef sandwich, and buttermilk (which I hated), and back to JL Hudson’s to shop for my mother’s gifts, freezing every minute. By that time, we didn’t need to hop a bus home - tires were back ‘legal,’ and everyone had their cars, but those early years, were interspersed with shopping at Sear’s on Gratiot Ave., and grabbing a v-shaped carton of A&W and a Daddy-Burger, or Mommy-Berger or "Kids-berger."

By C jay on 10/08/2009 8:56 pm
Barbara
How about shopping at Best and Company, Peck & Peck, Hughes & Hatcher (a Detroit store with fabulous service in their downtown main store).  Buying Capezio shoes (fabulous image…I always felt like I was a dancer because they also made ballet slippers), Villager a-line skirts and "poor boy" sweaters that came with a little ladybug pin.  Bass Wejun loafers with a real slot for a penny (I kept dimes in mine so I could make a phone call.  A pay phone call cost ten cents back then.)
By Barbara on 10/08/2009 2:48 pm
C jay

Ha, Barbara, I mentioned Best’s … and Peck & Peck had the best shoes, opps, besides Fyfe’s! Do you remember the Tycora sweater sets with the "scatter pins?" We had a hay-day with them at my 50th - I flew back for that one!

Now, I remember those darned white suede shoes, with the miserable puff we had to use to keep them clean, and ‘saddles,’ too - I went to a h.s. where we had to wear uniforms, though, and hose, too! We could wear "bobbysocks" but had to have hose covering our legs (then we suffered unimagineable pain with garter belts - or later the miserable Playtex (rubber) girdles! i CANNOT begin to tell online what happened to me in one of those things.

For formal events, 4-5 a year, most of us relied on "Best’s" (I still own a lovely, thick, black velvet coat that was a feature in an ad from them!) to buy our gowns in advance to be "checked out" by our teachers to ensure we had no flesh showing below the armpits, nor the pits themselves! If we did, we were tucked, and stuffed, and sent to the seamstress. I never got that far ‘south.’

How about Wright Kay Jewelers? In Boston for me, later, it was Shreve, Crump & Low. ahhhh memories. Capezios kept me dancing at Elaine Ardnt School of Dance in GP. I can hear the taps and thuds to this day.

By C jay on 10/08/2009 9:04 pm
Barbara

Ah yes, my engagement ring came from Wright Kay Jewelers.  It is still sparkling on my finger.  I remember the day my boyfriend and I went ring shopping.  We walked in and in the first case facing the door this ring was in the middle nestled in black velvet with a light shining on it.  The back of the case was mirrored and that ring was spectacular.  It’s not like the rings now with tons of huge diamonds; just one perfect stone in a simple setting, under a carat, but sparkling like nothing I had ever seen.  It was exactly my size, like it was there just waiting for me.  We bought it on the spot, he put it on my finger and it has never left.

And for your other comments.  I do remember (try to forget) the garter belts.  I remember putting holes in stockings because I would cinch them into the garters too tight.  My stockings were always bagging down around my ankles.  I very much remember the first panty hose, which were a godsend, even though the originals were not great.  They bagged too but we were free from girdles and garters.

I went to a Catholic school with plaid skirts and the clunkiest saddle shoes ever.   Knife pleated plaid skirts with the waistband rolled so the hems were always unbelievably uneven.  White blouses with blue blazers.  The nuns didn’t need to worry about keeping boys away from us…I felt so unattractive.  It took me years to get over!

I still have a beautiful wool coat I bought at Best’s with one of my first paychecks.  I didn’t realize it at the time but it is a very classic wrap shape and I’ve worn it off and on for 40 years and still get compliments.

By Barbara on 10/09/2009 8:25 am
C jay

Barbara - which school? I later truly abused myself (after Wayne) with a misererable 2 years at Mercy - those nuns were the living and real end. Boston beckoned, thank goodness.

My Best & Co coat is still in my closet - I’m going to have it remade into a cape keeping the huge shawl collar (it pulled up into a thick headcovering) … because … the arms are too tight (at least!).

 

By C jay on 10/09/2009 10:25 am
Barbara
Ladywood - four years of misery and listening to nuns tell me how stupid I was.  It took me years to realize just how wrong they were.
By Barbara on 10/09/2009 12:54 pm
C jay

Oh gosh - I never heard of that one… in fact Regina opened after "my" time. :-( I’m sorry they did that to you - The Mercy order was like that - primarily b/c they were a wealthy Order - the Dominicans were not; later they became rather ‘odd,’ though.

 

By C jay on 10/09/2009 4:35 pm
Ann Hipson

I miss:

Saturday movies at 10:00 for kids and we would walk two miles in a wad of kids to see it.  No adults.

Maas Brothers in downtown Tampa.  When I finished university, that was the only store or entity that would give a single woman a credit card.

Downtown Tampa.  Remember downtowns?

Coke made with sugar in little glass bottles.  The only soft drink ever worth drinking.

Early Rolling Stones.

Radio when it played a mixture of music styles on one station.

Chicken that actually had taste.  You know, chicken that tasted like chicken not like tofu.

Fresh peas in the spring.

I don’t miss:

Sanitary belts

Stockings before pantyhose, held up with non-sexy rigging.

Girdles

Not being able to get a Mastercharge or Sears card because I was a single woman.

Not being able to get a car loan without my father co-signing.

Segregated schools.

Being asked if I was going to be a teacher when I told people I was going to go to college.

By Ann Hipson on 10/08/2009 2:57 pm