Conversation | 10/09/2009 3:30 pm
The wOw Conversation: The Predicament of Polanski? (Audio)

wOw recently asked its community and Contributors: Do you think Roman Polanski should go to prison? The passion behind the arguments was evident, and so we invited a few of our wOw women to continue the discussion.
Liz Smith, Joan Juliet Buck and Julia Reed’s discussion follows. Click the play button to begin:
JULIA: "And I think Liz’s point about the fact that in this country, and every country, you’ve got privileged people having a different set of rules. And, like you say, if this were … I mean, for a long time Catholic priests could get away with this kind of stuff."
JOAN: "This particular chick in the case that happened back in the ‘70s; the girl who Roman Polanski photographed for French Vogue. The assignment was for French Vogue. And this girl was not a random chick. She was a little girl around town in the hot pants who was used to doing qualudes. He was not the first man she’d had sex with … Now I’m not saying bad things about this kid, but I’m saying that this was not a 13-year-old schoolgirl in a uniform on her way back from school, got pulled into a car and raped by a strange man of 43."
LIZ: "So he went from being that rotten little joke that you heard to being somebody very distinguished. But he still broke the law and ran away and never took any chance to go back and mitigate what he had confessed."























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Raquel: Read what this 13 year old went through, then tell me if he should be let go. If this was your daughter, would you think differently? http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/polanskicover1.html
I’m sure Polanskys lawyers are offering this girl a goldmine.
Lock him in a 3’ by 5’ by 4’ cell, then throw away the key. Let him feel what its like to be helpless.
Hey John:
wowOwow, another intelligent, attractive man posting on this site. Actually, I think your being a little extreme, however I wouldn’t mind locking up some of the women on this thread. Their lack of knowledge, empathy and/or intelligent insight is shocking. Great to have a man’s point of view, showing that "feminism" isn’t just a bra burning phase some of us endured, but a movement that made real changes in men as well as women and women’s rights.
Bravo John!
Their lack of knowledge, empathy and/or intelligent insight is shocking.
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Actually your lack of knowledge about the case itself is scary. This was probably a question raised by the prosecutors at the time and most likely will be asked by the defense attorneys now if this goes back to court and trial which may explain why all the charges except the statutory rape charge were dropped. How do we know that she wasn’t saying "oh, oh, oh" instead of "no, no, no" and I would point out that when she got home she didn’t run to her mother to tell her that she had been raped. She ran to the telephone to call her boyfriend. We don’t know that she even intended to tell her mother.
AND it REALLY doesn’t matter if she said Oh OH OH, she was a MINOR (not a child). What part of that don’t YOU get?
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It absolutely does matter. But there is no point in trying to explain it to you.
A 28-page probation officer’s report completed in September of that year presented a broadly sympathetic portrait of Mr. Polanski and his behavior, even while acknowledging that the victim, Samantha Geimer (who has since publicly identified herself), had offered grand jury testimony of forcible rape.
Submitted by the acting probation officer Kenneth F. Fare, and signed by a deputy, Irwin Gold, that report, which recommended against further jail time, said “the present offense appears to have been spontaneous and an exercise of poor judgment by the defendant.”
In a further conclusion that appeared to shed blame on the victim, it said, “There was some indication that circumstances were provocative, that there was some permissiveness by the mother,” who had allowed Ms. Geimer to spend time with Mr. Polanski. And, in a conclusion that might particularly jar readers today, it pointed toward evidence “that the victim was not only physically mature, but willing.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/movies/11polanski.html?_r=1&bl
It’s very hard for victims to look into a mirror. The reflection at first is black and white. And then suddenly there are these shades of gray. I know because I’m a victim who looked into a mirror.
Those shades of gray run from completely innocent to completely guilty. They don’t make us less a victim nor do they make someone else less a victimizer. But they are there. And everyone from the police to the prosecutors to the juries see the gray. That is reality. The mob never does. But then our system of justice is such that we do not allow the mob to determine innocence or guilt. Or punishment. Sadly, it times, the mob prevails just the same.
We as a society also have to look in the mirror. And we have to look at the grays as well as the black and white.
"Hey John:
wowOwow, another intelligent, attractive man posting on this site. Actually, I think your being a little extreme, however I wouldn’t mind locking up some of the women on this thread. Their lack of knowledge, empathy and/or intelligent insight is shocking. Great to have a man’s point of view, showing that "feminism" isn’t just a bra burning phase some of us endured, but a movement that made real changes in men as well as women and women’s rights.
Bravo John!"
By Lin Cercone I don’t Lin, if we lock everyone in this thread for "Their lack of knowledge, empathy and/or intelligent insight", well Baby Snooks and I might be the only one’s posting :)