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Poll | 03/12/2009 11:00 pm

Bernie Madoff: Does the time fit the crime?

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James the Game
Madoff’s just the whipping boy for the 24/7 media that craves a face to put with any scandal. Any dunce knows Madoff didn’t pull this thing off by himself. A lot of hands are dirty, not only in this case, but thousands of others. I’m not saying Madoff doesn’t deserve to be the poster child, but it just isn’t sexy to font up 30 or 40 faces on the TV screen.
By James the Game on 03/15/2009 11:28 am
RoseMerry Hoffman

He has not been sentenced yet. We don’t know what his punishment will be. Isn’t this poll premature?

 I think 100 years without parole and losing every penny of his assets would be fair. I am against the death penalty as it gives the government too much power. But sometimes, I wonder about exceptions. Like is sexual assults of child, mainly.

By RoseMerry Hoffman on 03/16/2009 2:43 am
Nancy Pigeon
I think if more people had to stand face to face with the person they hurt, the world would be a kinder, safer place.  Have B.M. live the life of honest working middle and lower class Americans, instead of laying around a jail cell with the rest of the losers of the country.
By Nancy Pigeon on 03/16/2009 8:50 am
Riene Alphin

Let’s take into account the man had a continuing criminal interprise going. He should be charged under the RICCO ACT. There sould be no "propr petens" allowed, in order that the least wealthy victims which are most likely to be unable to afford counsel. Everything both, he and his wife own, should be forfited and sold. Harsh thing to say, but, in my humble opnion, the least wealthy should have their monies restored and refunded first.

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time. He should do community service ie. Work release and make it his job to find and pay for suitable housing and expenses to those he scammed.

By Riene Alphin on 03/16/2009 8:54 am
marita dorr
surely there is some way to put the money he has into a fund for the people he robbed
By marita dorr on 03/16/2009 9:33 am
Kate Walsh
I am not saying this man isn’t smart enough, but he stole millions of dollars, so much so, that I doubt he was flying solo on this.  Where is his wife and why doesn’t she have a matching cell?  They should confiscate all their personal wealth and distribute it to those poor people who put their trust in him!!! 
By Kate Walsh on 03/16/2009 9:44 am
Hogue Shippe

Much more needs to be investigated. Just how did this happen and who else is involved.

I adhere to the Marx/Parker school of financial investing:

I’d never join a club that would have me as a member, and I don’t put all of my eggs in one bastard.

 

 

By Hogue Shippe on 03/16/2009 9:47 am
Julie Fuller
I have some experience visiting people in prison.  Sure, they have lost a lot of their normal freedoms (which isn’t a physical hardship!);  actually, they have better care and activity opportunities than probably half of the ‘free’ people in our country! BUT, the fact that however long their sentence, everything they have is costing US!  It costs them NOTHING to be in prison.  So, in my opinion, Madoff with his billions should be paying the upkeep on prisoners, NOT U.S. taxpayers!!!
By Julie Fuller on 03/16/2009 9:50 am
HA BIBI

JewishWorldReview Since December, the media seemed to be obsessed with every detail of the Madoff scandal. And the public obliged in lapping it up.

Now, there’s no denying that Bernie Madoff’s crime, with all of its titillating elements, made for one humdinger of a story. After all, without the least bit of hyperbole, the damage he wrought was historic.

But if all the Madoff scandal becomes is the tale of the rise and downfall of one man who hoodwinked shrewd, intelligent, powerful people; charities and others, then we, as a society, have missed the point.

 The delusion of superiority enjoyed by the super-rich is reinforced by the masses who pay homage to them. Even clergy who speak out against the worship of money often defer and bend over backwards to please the wealthy in their respective communities.

A rich man commands respect and attention wherever he goes. People point him out when he walks into a room. His counsel is sought on various matters, much of which he often knows little about.

Everyone wants to be associated with success and, more often than not, the barometer of success is the size of one’s bank account. Usually it matters not a whit how the money was made.

With very few exceptions, this is the way of the world. It’s common today for honesty to be confused — indeed, synonymous — with naivete. One who declines participating in money-making schemes for ethical reasons or refuses benefits he may not be entitled to, is scorned as a fool or too "morally straight".

The hardworking electrician or craftsman who sweats from early in the morning to late at night, never overcharging and remaining fastidious about paying his taxes, may not earn anyone’s admiration. It’s the one who cuts corners, gives dishonest answers on government forms, overcharges and plays fast and loose with the rules who often seems to be more respected for the resulting windfall of his "accomplishments" and "skills".

An honest middle class man who pays his tuition and is punctilious in the giving of charity to the less fortunate isn’t respected enough for his integrity and reliability. The same goes for the kindhearted fellow who doesn’t push his weight around trying to dictate what others should do.

We have in our midst people of sterling character, individuals who are intelligent, capable and resourceful, who can envision solutions and follow through on a project to completion. These people realize that all their talents and possessions are gifts from the Divine. They remain humble and G-d fearing and loving. It’s precisely this kind of person we need in positions of leadership.

But sadly, we don’t appreciate these people. We seek folks who radiate glitz and glamour. Awed by their material success, we invest our trust, imagining that they possess the brilliance and competence to lead us to success.

Then, suddenly, our eyes are opened when we see the wealthy cut down by the cheapest trick in the book. We are astounded. How were such successful and prosperous people taken in? How did they allow themselves to ignore the most basic laws of investing that relatively unsophisticated people are familiar with?

The very people who inspired so much envy and hero-worship, and who we turned to for advice and guidance, have been exposed as fatally blinded by their hunger for more money and power. It fascinates people to realize that the rich are no smarter than they, and may even be less intelligent. Middle class people are amazed to see that the wealth they so covet is fleeting and meaningless, while the money they have earned and the homes they own are not figments of imagination and bustable balloons of fantasy.

 The media will get over its obsession with Madoff; the public will soon lose its fascination with this story. Yet, long after the allure of this bizarre incident fades, we must remember its lessons.

Don’t rush for quick gain. Don’t become enamored by people who seem to prosper no matter what the economic situation. Don’t judge a person by the amount of money he has. Remember that prosperity is a Divine gift intended for the recipient to better mankind and those around him.

He who uses his gifts wisely has fulfilled his obligations and accomplished what is expected of him. The one who disburses his largesse to institutions of religiosity and kindness has earned Eternity for himself and his loved ones. He who squanders it in selfish pursuits leads an empty and purposeless life. He fritters away the benefits he could have accrued in this life and wastes numerous opportunities for Eternity.

People who lead honest lives don’t chase after pots of gold behind the rainbow. They make their money the old-fashioned way. They avoid subterfuge and dishonesty. When investing, they take great care to diversify, never putting all their eggs in one basket. They know that nothing works in a straight upward curve; life has its ups and downs that affect every sphere of finance.

They don’t become broken and give up hope when things are pointing down. They maintain their faith and belief. In the good times, they don’t flaunt their success and don’t force others to conform to their idiosyncrasies. They remain committed to the greater good at all times.

We are currently experiencing a financial recession. Many good people are losing not only their jobs but their savings and the possessions they worked so hard to earn. Everyone we know seems to have been forced, at least somewhat, to lower their standard of living. In the dark as to what tomorrow will bring, many are now cutting back on all forms of spending and holding on to what they have.

People upon whom charitable organizations depended to continue their work are no longer in a position to be of much financial assistance. People with hearts overflowing with the desire to help, and who formerly supported religious institutions and social service organizations and enabled them to maintain the golden chain stretching back millennia, are themselves broken-hearted and in need of support and mercy.

In difficult straits, people may find themselves contemplating various unethical schemes to attain wealth and success by taking moral shortcuts. When tempted by dishonesty and duplicity, one has but to remember Madoff’s downfall.

In the end, the truth always emerges.

Frauds and lies will only get you so far. Eventually, the treachery will catch up with you. Together with your wealth, all those adoring friends who couldn’t do enough for you will disappear. Everything temporary comes to a crashing end. Only truth is enduring.

 

By HA BIBI on 03/16/2009 9:54 am
Donna Hammett-Tooker
Sell his $7 million penthouse and redistribute the alleged inheritance his wife is claiming to those who have lost their lives due to his arrogant self-privileged assumption that he deserves to have what so many unknowingly gave him in trust.
By Donna Hammett-Tooker on 03/16/2009 9:57 am
jill jackson

I feel he should be treated as if he were any other criminal.  The problem is that if you are rich you seem to get away with a lot. If you are among the average to below income bracket, you seem to always get the worst out of the judicial system.

By jill jackson on 03/16/2009 10:10 am
Isabelle Fallon
He is most certainly despicable, a cheat and a swindler and deserves to pay for his crimes. But in comparison to rapists and murders who get parole and finite sentences, to be let out again in their lifetime (this opinion won’t be popular) - it’s "only" money. While his impact on the people he has wronged is huge, I think the response is disproportionate to the actual crime, when the actual nature and morality of it is taken into account, in comparison, as I said, with crimes of evil for which all too often, life does not mean life.
By Isabelle Fallon on 03/16/2009 10:20 am
Debbie Miller
The time will fit the crime when he and his wife pay/divide their assets to their victims…we all know the money she claims is hers came from those people!
By Debbie Miller on 03/16/2009 10:21 am
michele kennedy
Take everything he and  his wife owns and sell it.   Split it amongst investors, and let them have nothing….   There has to be a way to get back the money he has transferred to other countries, hopefully, in time this will be done.   Then put him and his wife in jail, solitude, for the rest of their lives.   She was a part of this as much as he.  Unfortunatley, its their clients and family that looses.
By michele kennedy on 03/16/2009 10:23 am
tracy kostelic
Should he stay in jail,, yes. But I think he should put his talents to good use and help the Tresaury Department by showing them how he did it and how tht type of scam can be prevented in the future. His knowledge can be crucial to putting new stop gaps in place. If he truly remorseful, he will be forthcoming and help.
By tracy kostelic on 03/16/2009 10:44 am