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Candice Bergen | 03/11/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen: Art World Has the 'Moral Compass of a Mobster'

Candice Bergen
Art world, schmart world. This depression is causing so many people to suffer that the art world, which has the moral compass of a mobster, is the least of our concerns. We have a house in France near the great cave paintings and people can always go back to something more primitive since the urge to create is primal anyway.
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Karen R
You do realize that the majority of Americans don’t purchase Prada, right?
By Karen R on 03/12/2009 9:46 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Gee, Karen, ya think?  On the other hand, one of the stakeholders in wOw recently was "forced" to ship her yacht back to the states because of the economic state of affairs? So, how much shipping did she shell out to ship her ship on the big ship?  I suspect I could have lived on whatever the freight was for the next five years. So I certainly hope she’s buying women’s art along the way.
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/12/2009 10:01 pm
Jeannot Kensinger

Oh Candice, I adore you but today you are making me angry.

My husband made a living as an artist/painter. If you asked him why he did not get a "regular job" he was ready to punch you in the mouth.

That is all he could do, he drew, painted, since the age of 6.

He was obsessed with art.

He was a great artist, he was awards in Belgium and was the only American to be decorated there as Commandeur for his trompe l’oeil work.

I do not think that you were writing about the smaller galleries and artists who often are hungry. We had a good life but still it was it was always a question mark what we would make month by month.

I was in a small NC town just yesterday and always visit the galleries but they were empty of customers. The answer being do you need this painting or do you need groceries.

Moral compass of a mobster? Not my husband, never ever.

He refused to go commercial with prints as he saw this as robbery. He always told me that all the people are buying is a piece of paper and a signature. That was high way robbery. Not all artists followed that plan. He only sold original work. Still it was feast or famine. 

Lets try and support an artist if we can. If we see a small piece of pottery, drawing, or sculpture lets just see if we can try and SUPPORT an artist. 

Chinese quotation:

When you have only two pennies left in the world, buy a loaf of bread with one, and a lily with the other.

I would change it to a piece of art. 

By Jeannot Kensinger on 03/12/2009 8:30 am
belladora smith
Jeannot, thankyou for such a real life opinion of the life of an artist. I worked in the airline business and loved it, but my life as a muralist brought me my soul work. I run into people that either look up to me and my God given talent, or they see me as just another wacky artist type. I know the value artists bring to this dark world. I could not imagine life without artistic creativity. And let me see just anyone paint a masterpiece.
By belladora smith on 03/12/2009 5:30 pm
Jeannot Kensinger

Belladora, How great that you found a calling as a muralist.

I have nothing but admiration for the people who get into the art field. Most if not all do not go into it for the money, they know ahead of time that there will be lean times. They do it because that is what drives them.
I hate to hear the comment :"ok, so he is an artist, what is his real job?"

Good luck to you. 

By Jeannot Kensinger on 03/12/2009 5:46 pm
Diana T
Jeannot, this statement of Candace’s burned me up and somewhere on this thread you will see the statement I made.  But, this is in the NYTimes that I just saw:  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/13/arts/design/13metr.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss  And, if this is what is happening to the Metropolitan Museum, what does that mean for the majority of artists and museums all through the country that don’t have the resources that the Met has?  Sometimes I think that these masthead ladies are so wealthy and so insulated in their New York life, that they have no idea what the rest of us are going through.  But,  I would hope you would find my posts around this area because I would like to know your thoughts.
By Diana T on 03/13/2009 12:46 am
Jeannot Kensinger

Diana, I was stewing all day about what Candace wrote. 

Being European by birth, I always have felt that the "arts" in any form in this country always take second place.

It should start in the schools. Instead art programs are vanishing there too. 

Respect for the artist here is extremely low, I have been in that millieu now for 40 years. In the 1970’s I remember that we, husband and I , were considering moving to the Netherlands. The Dutch offered subsidising artists they’d give you enough to survive modestly but survive you could. In exchange you were to give them X numbers of your work  and the works were placed all over the country in different museums and galleries. In other words, the artist had some value to them.

Here, unless you make it in a N Y gallery you are either a bum who does not want to work, a hippy, a Bohemian, or someone who can fill your walls with paintings that match the walls. Very few will come to your shows, your exhibitions and see that you heart and soul is reflecting in your work. It may not be your cup of tea but at least we should learn to know that there is an artist alive in that work. 

The same with the theatre, the ballet, these artists do not rehearse and go to lessons hour after hour because they expect great  monetary rewards, they can’t help themselves, they want to dance and act. 

I get so angry at the whole "art" package. 

When my mother visited me in 1960, the first thing she said was : I so want to see the Metropolitan. She did not ask for Macy’s or some famous restaurant, she wanted the museum and a show in Carnegie hall. She loved both. 

Every time I went home, we visited the news art shows in the town.

How many schools have field trips to Museums? To ballets? To the theatre?  Yet my grandson has done numerous trips this year , all to sport events. Enough said, I am on a furious roll here.

I do not know what the answers are for the big guns, the Museums, the big Shows. I know about the "little people" with the big heart and mind full of exciting ideas they would want to share with Mr and Mrs America. 

Get an art book at the "Goodwill" show your kids that there was a Monet, Matisse, Rubens and Rembrandt. Take them to your local art show and for pitty sake do not ask the artist for something that matches your new sofa. Look at the work and see what feeds your soul. Teach your kids that there is another art out there besides the ones on their games. 

Fight the schools so they will have an art department, demand it. Keep the music dept. going, have bake sales if you must for uniforms but do not let these kids get to be a grown up without that opportunity.

 As you well know, Diana, we just can’t survive without the arts. 

By Jeannot Kensinger on 03/13/2009 8:54 am
Diana T

I guess that people think that art is free of charge, and it costs nothing to produce it.  Oh, and the artist is "playing".  My husband was always gracious enough to sing a thing or two at certain parties, but he really resented it if he thought that was the only reason the people invited him. 

The Arts have always been a watermark of the civilization producing them.  What does our scant respect for them say about us today?

By Diana T on 03/13/2009 9:12 am
Terrie Coles
I agree with Candice!  Art is important but there are so many other major issues during this recession.  I live in Chicago where the Art Institute has raised the fee to get in to such a ridiculous price - that the common person won’t be able to go and appreciate the art anyway.  The prices to go and see Art like Alvin Ailey dance Theater have sky rocketed.  In a recession, do you make things affordabale or does Art become only for the rich?
By Terrie Coles on 03/12/2009 10:05 am
Mugsy Peabody
What about the people who produce the art?  How can you support them?
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/12/2009 4:15 pm
Kay Sara
Artist would like to be hired by the government just as firefighters, police, teachers are hired by the state- since they provide a service for the entire community.  That is a fantastic way to keep artists and their work pure from commercialism & marketability.  Also art is not about creating "pretty paintings for a wall".   This country needs to learn what exactly the artist contributes to their society.  There is an art movement that is so incredibly intriguing - that just really makes you sit back and THINK.  it is so stimulating and awesome- yet the works are anything but "pretty".
By Kay Sara on 03/14/2009 6:38 am
Mugsy Peabody
And certainly artists are warriors, Kay… 
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/14/2009 3:32 pm
Kay Sara
So true, Mugsy.  At my son’s graduation from MICA I was moved at how the focused  the faculty was in their mission to nurture and develope this creative innovative challenging warrior spirit in their students.   The commencement speeches were the best I have heard talking about the role of the artist —not to mention the challenges  these committed people accept in their pursuit of their consuming drive to create . 
By Kay Sara on 03/14/2009 6:40 pm
Beth Cornell
Bravo!! Well said, Candice. You rock as  always!
By Beth Cornell on 03/12/2009 10:58 am
Serena .

Okay, okay, for all you anti-art buffs, why don’t you stop reading books, watching movies, watching television, listening to the radio or your CDs, etc., etc.

By Serena . on 03/12/2009 11:05 am