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Candice Bergen | 03/11/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen: Art World Has the 'Moral Compass of a Mobster'

Candice Bergen
Art world, schmart world. This depression is causing so many people to suffer that the art world, which has the moral compass of a mobster, is the least of our concerns. We have a house in France near the great cave paintings and people can always go back to something more primitive since the urge to create is primal anyway.
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Blue Circle Girl

Candy is talking like dummy!  She has no regard, after all she was born into her actor schmactor life. 

NEXT?!

By Blue Circle Girl on 03/12/2009 8:17 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Runs in the family.  Her brother was a real dummy.
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/12/2009 9:01 pm
Kay Sara
Unfortunately, my esteem for Ms. Bergen has declined since she has opened her mouth uttering her own words that her own brain generates on this website.  She should stick to reciting the written words of others brains that are handed to her in a script.  No wonder she has no appreciation for the artist work - it takes a brain and the time to comprehend what the artist is trying to convey.
By Kay Sara on 03/14/2009 6:45 am
Republican 4Life

Interesting, that Ms. Bergen, whose whole career has been in the arts, and whose father’s career was also in the arts, would say this.

She is either parodying the anti-art crowd, or she is showing signs of early dementia.

By Republican 4Life on 03/12/2009 8:20 pm
chef Zee
I can’t imagine what kind of personal experience Ms. Bergen had with the "art world" which would cause her to blatantly label it so negatively. She sounds angry and nasty. I admire her contribution to the performing arts and would like to give her the benefit of doubt; but her unfair, blanket labeling and condemnation of a whole community makes it hard to do. I am dismayed and disappointed.
By chef Zee on 03/12/2009 8:42 pm
Diana T

I have spent the whole of my lifetime supporting the Arts, as well as my late husband, who was in musical theatre, an actor and a trained opera singer, and a sister who is a pianist, and parents who gave us the legacy of understanding the importance of the Arts in our lives and our civilization.  I have read with amusement, I guess, the posts of Candace and Liz, and it is obvious that they are so entrenched in their world of wealth and international reknown, that they are not aware of the grave danger most of our art groups, our symphonies, our opera and ballet companies.  I guess they don’t realize that the major museums such as the Smithsonian are having to seriously consider cutting back their research and staffs.  The NYTimes wrote an article today of the possibility of huge problems with the Philadelphia Philarmonic.  I don’t know how people think these companies support themselves, and I resent having anyone use the expression of "moral compass of a mobster".  How so?  Please be specific.  Tell that to the hundreds of curators, librarians, Department Heads of Universities, music/art/performing students who are hanging on by the skin of their teeth because their grant money and scholarships are in imminent danger of drying up.  Where do you all think the money comes from? Most all of the theatre, music,opera and ballet companies in America are privately funded.  Most museums are local, and if you think the Metropolitan, San Francisco or Smithsonian are having troubles, it isn’t anything compared to the regional ones.

I am sick and tired of our Artists/Writers/Performers(no I’m not thinking of Britney) and all of those who work so tirelessly trying to create something to make this a better world, being cast aside as though they count for nothing. 

Are any of you aware of the Federal Art Project that was written into the New Deal by FDR because he and many others recognized the importance of the fine arts in the lives of their citizens?  If you aren’t then get familiar with it.  And, that goes for you too Candace, because you and I are about the same age, and you ought to know better.

http://www.geocities.com/bettye_sutton/greatdepression.html

By Diana T on 03/12/2009 8:44 pm
Diana T
And further more, how many of us do you think have a country house in France that we can go to anytime we wish?
By Diana T on 03/12/2009 8:45 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Candice, I guess what I’m saying is, if you think about the amount of money you were paid for even one episode of Boston Legal or Murphy Brown, that would be what most women artists live on a year in this country. 
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/12/2009 8:48 pm
rocky rocky
I suspect a whole lot less, Mugsy. If William Petersen ("CSI") is paid  $500,000/episode; Mariska Hargitay ("Law & Order: SVU"), $350,000; and Eva Longoria ("Desperate Housewives"), $200,000 — well,  artists can and do live on the money paid for one episode for more than 10 years!
By rocky rocky on 03/14/2009 11:27 am
Mugsy Peabody
Right.  So I could live on one episode for 10 years, you’re saying?  Candice, I think your only way out of this is to buy the exciting and vibrant work of women artists.  Ask Anne Hathaway who she is collecting, because I hear she buys original art from women. So does Lily Tomlin, I’m told.
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/14/2009 3:35 pm
DeBúrca obj

It is my guess that when Ms Bergen talks about the moral compass of the ‘art world’ she is referring to the ‘art’ world she is a part of and has most experience with, grew up in and works in. This would be LA, Hollywood and particularly the Entertainment, Movie and Television Industry. That is not what the majority of people think about or are referring to when they talk about ‘art’. So I think we are talking about apples and oranges here.

By DeBúrca obj on 03/12/2009 8:50 pm
Mugsy Peabody
DeB, you mean the art that’s pulled screaming out of the soul of an artist vs. the art that attracts buyers to advertisers on teleivison?  Like that?
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/12/2009 9:02 pm
Mugsy Peabody
Well, and of course for the ladies who lunch there are the wonderful wearable art pieces of that wonderful designer, Holly Badgley.  Could probably pick up something quite nice for the price of a pair of those Christina Louboutins.  http://www.hollybadgley.com/
By Mugsy Peabody on 03/12/2009 9:30 pm
Karen R
What’s really ironic is that many of the fine classical artists now considers masters died penniless.
By Karen R on 03/12/2009 9:50 pm
Blue Circle Girl

Dear Candy,

OMG, you made a huge mistake here … you sound like an art Nazi?

Oh, yeah, I am jewish, I have the blood to prove it …

May I ask that you retract this "art schmart" whatever comment before this gets any bigger? PLEASE!

Who am I to ask this of you?, nobody, yet somebody ….

I think for sure you must have been drinking to make such a comment about the art world … I can get you the information for meetinings and whatnot.

Retract this portion of the wowspew, please!

Wake up woman, you made your living from the arts!?!

 

By Blue Circle Girl on 03/12/2009 9:55 pm