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Question of the Day | 05/25/2009 11:00 pm

Given our current economic/career environment, what advice would you give to a 2009 graduate?

Candice Bergen, Liz Smith and Joan Ganz Cooney wish the graduates the best of luck and more. What advice would you offer someone new to the real world?
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Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 05/25/2009 11:00 pm

Liz Smith Advises Graduates on Careers, Shelter and Attitude

Keep your head down and your chin up. Really, how presumptuous that we old crocks should give these bedeviled young people any advice when nobody knows what they are doing these days!

First, I’d be sure I was a tech expert; up on all the latest gadgetry and ready to go. This could be crucial even if you have to go back to classes to learn it all.

(And seriously I might do something like that myself; I am so tired of not understanding this brave new world.) Second, try to find some inexpensive place to live – at home, with pals, share-the-wealth kind of thing. It won’t kill you, but high rents are a killer.

If you don’t get what you want, don’t give up before taking more menial jobs to eke out an existence while you look and wait. Be brave! Continue to educate yourself. Read everything. Be aware.

I once worked in three menial jobs at the same time. It finally all paid off. I arrived in New York in 1949 with $50 and no return-to -Texas ticket. And look at me years later, still hustling!

Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 05/25/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen Wouldn't Give Tips to a Graduate

What I would give to a graduate in ‘09 is a job.
Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 05/25/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney to Graduates: 'Get a Job'

Get a job, any job that will pay the rent, and start plotting your move (it will take time and peristence) into something you feel passionate about.

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Linda Myers
What you see today, are not the horizons of your future. Find the core of who you are, and what you want to be and create your future. Hold your vision.
By Linda Myers on 05/26/2009 12:06 am
kermie b
Forget about your passion.  That doesn’t pay the bills.  Get an education for a career that will survive hard times because the older you get, the more difficult it can be to stay afloat.  If something is REALLY your passion, you will find time for it no matter what.  Get a practical education first.
By kermie b on 05/26/2009 12:26 am
Carolyn K

"Get an education for a career that will survive hard times because the older you get, the more difficult it can be to stay afloat."

Hmm, and what might that be? At one time it was computer programming, that is until 2001 when offshoring took hold. At one time it was financial services - no explanation required. Management conultants still seem to be doing well, but as always if you haven’t gone to an ivy league school getting hired can be difficult. 

So what career is it that you think will survive hard times? 

By Carolyn K on 05/29/2009 4:31 pm
Andrea Brandon

Sense of entitlement does not exist in the workplace.  Anything worth achieving is worth working your a$$ off…..and then some.

By Andrea Brandon on 05/26/2009 1:11 am
joan larsen

Let’s face it.  Our almost grown-up children do not take well to advice.  Graduation speeches last just about as long as it takes to say them.  The best thing we can do for our children is to have been the best parents - the best examples - that one could wish for.  No, we didn’t know it all.  Who does?  But the love and caring, the belief and pride - voiced often through the years - should have given them the confidence that they, too, are going to make it.

I am not one for silver platters.  Face it, life is not easy.  Life is not smooth.  Adversity and hardship happens.  We "ride" with it better when we are young.  We learn how to make do.  And, speaking for myself, some of us look back on those couple of years living on lawn chairs as young adults as "the good years" with fond memories of times that - if truth be told - were rough. 

To me that is good grounding.  You’ve got to do your own growing up, no matter how tall your father was.  I feel that then - as now - we learn by our mistakes.  I call it growth.  I call it "good".  I call it "life". 

Times are very tough.  But times were equally tough for my parents and grandparents - and many of yours — and afterwards, they prospered.  If we have that core of belief in ourselves and keep it, we will do what it takes now to sustain ourselves, watch for opportunities, and know within that when we get our turn, we will make the most of it. 

The "seed" - as I see it - was planted deeply and well in our children.  We have said over time what needed to be said and hope the life we, as parents lived, was in some ways emulated.  Perhaps, that is asking too much, but I think not.  In my family, I would hope my children live by our example .  . for if they do, they will get through the valleys we live in now — and then, as we did, see the mountain tops.

By joan larsen on 05/26/2009 1:14 am
C jay

100% true, Joan! The hue and cry of our new grads seems to have come out of the world economy not at all realistic. Every class has spent at least 6-9 months finding employment, either during the last year of education and the first months, or if they waited, after graduation. Nothing’s changed, really - except the present 20s generation has yet to reach a level of responsibilty that keeps them from relying on their parents, and "just doing it (working)."  I don’t know about you, but I would never have asked my parents for help, as long as I could function, and move about.

What today’s youth do not yet understand, in every decade we had low employment years, and it took many of their parents months to find new jobs, especially when the aerospace jobs crashed, and then, the high tech industry crashed (the 90s). Everyone was urged to accept "lateral placements with training" in their own companies, or plan on no job! Most did not take that training, fearing lower wages, etc; however, the outcome was the same, no job.

The problem was that few parents told their kids about "it" or how bad things really were. Suicide? You bet. We saw a lot of it in the 70s, 80s, 90s during such "crashes," and the S&L horror took many lives, and many life savings, thanks to the grande Arizona S&L that started it all - and it’s head honchos.

Nothing is perfect, but we must realize that our youth have the energy and ability to live in communal settings, earn little and make it just fine, while they work on developing their minds towards a career, and contacts to carry them forward. Tough Love is in order.

 

(We have 2 grads in the family this month - common for us. One from college, and she started interviewing mentors the summer before her junior year, and started working as an intern in her secondary major the following November - guess where her best job offer came from?)

By C jay on 05/30/2009 10:33 pm
katywon LA..
Never give up. The old song says it all, "Pick yourself up,dust yourself off and start all over again." Life will not always go as planned but the truth is that nothing stays the same. Everything changes in time. You the graduate may have a perfect life and that would be nice but if reality exists then you can have a good long life in spite of some downs that come along. Look forward to the ups!
By katywon LA.. on 05/26/2009 1:51 am
James the Game
Don’t go into radio! The health field will be a strong field for years to come - a lot of jobs in it.
By James the Game on 05/26/2009 3:31 am
Rainbow Power
The business world is a "you" world and it’s your world to conquer. As a woman, you will most likely have more difficulty proving you are the best, but "can’t" is not a word in the business woman’s world.
By Rainbow Power on 05/26/2009 5:56 am
C Hardy
No advice, just wish them tons of luck.  I have cousins who are graduating and I wish them luck in finding a job.  One went into Education and the other into Engineering.  Good Luck to both!
By C Hardy on 05/26/2009 7:35 am
Green Tears
Flexibility is key to getting where you want to be. Life’s paths are usually far from the straight lines that we envision them to be. The dream job might not be attainable at the moment, so take whatever job(s) are available and work on establishing yourself as a responsible financially independent individual. Be grateful for any support parents or other family members still choose to provide - you are a ‘grownup’ now so all those extras are optional for the donors and if you alienate those who help you, you may find yourself out in the cold.
By Green Tears on 05/26/2009 7:35 am
DeBúrca obj
I know lots of grads this year and all I would say is find any job and then keep looking. The great thing is that the majority of grads are in the same boat so there is nothing to prove… and in a way that is liberating.
By DeBúrca obj on 05/26/2009 7:55 am
Chris Glass`
If you can’t find a job right away do volunteer work. You meet a lot of people that can lead to employment contacts. Volunteering proves you have a work ethic.
By Chris Glass` on 05/26/2009 8:00 am
Green Tears
Excellent point, Chris, and volunteering also is very personally rewarding.
By Green Tears on 05/26/2009 8:13 am
kermie b

Chris—With all due respect, in 1978, by the time I finished putting myself through college, I was so broke I did not have money for basics, like food and rent.  Telling young people to volunteer is, in many instances, not realistic.  Not everyone had a home with parents to go back to and rely on until they were on their feet financially.  Some of us had to hit the ground running out of necessity. 

However, at this point in my adult life, after being laid off, I have realized volunteer work is perfect to find a different niche.  The work I spent 25 years of my life doing does not exist anymore, not in large cities.  I have contacted volunteer groups at the NYC library and elsewhere, in hopes of eventually finding work that has a paycheck.  The surprising part is, in this economy, volunteer groups have a waiting list.  I think a lot of us need the social networking that a job used to bring.

By kermie b on 05/26/2009 10:07 am