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Wall Street Weekly | 03/06/2009 1:05 pm

Liz Peek: Stock Market Continues to Vote Nobama

By Liz Peek

Bears, Bulls, Chickens and Pigs: wOw’s Wall Street Weekly with Liz Peek (Week of 3/2) 

Editor’s Note: Liz Peek is a financial columnist and the author of wOw’s SHEconomics

Looking for good news? We can all stop worrying about President Barack Obama’s plans to redistribute wealth. At the rate we’re going, there soon won’t be any wealth left. The stock market has been in free fall since Obama’s Inauguration Day, falling now 20% since he took office. It has been one of the swiftest and most terrifying sell-offs I’ve seen, encompassing nearly every sector. How could the nation’s excitement about this new leader have vanished so abruptly? 

Investors are panicked on a number of fronts. First, the president’s budget torpedoed any hopes that he would follow in the centrist footsteps of Bill Clinton. Despite Cabinet appointments that appeared to signal a pragmatic and middle-of-the road approach to governing, the policies unveiled in the giant spending bill clearly celebrated a “government knows best” philosophy that seems quaintly dated – like bobby socks and poodle skirts. Most of us never expected to see them again.

Worse, as more bills and more plans have tumbled out of the administration, it has become clear to stock pickers that the president doesn’t much like business. So far, he has threatened higher taxes or punitive legislation for agribusiness, pharmaceuticals, defense contractors, banks, oil and gas companies, utilities, medical equipment companies, housing and hedge funds (list in formation). 

Moreover, as rattling as the housing and health-care programs (among others) have been, these initiatives are, so far, undefined. Obama has chosen to leave the fine print, which is to say, the actual plans, up to Congress. This has led to wild speculation about what will ultimately emerge from those dark chambers. Uncertainty is the most savage enemy of stock markets and these days we are awash in unknowns.

The unveiling of broad, new initiatives without much hard backup, combined with ongoing hiring problems has led many to view the administration as disorganized or worse. Nowhere is this more an issue than at the Treasury. Ever since Secretary Geithner’s disastrous opening speech, investors have waited to hear the details of how he plans to stabilize the banking system. Waited and waited.

As the markets tumbled, 19 days passed before Geithner reappeared. Dismay over his inability to soothe concerns about imminent bank failures – or, more important – his lack of a solution, is a catastrophe. The Wall Street Journal chronicles today his recruiting problems and quotes Paul Volcker describing the lack of staffing at the department as “shameful.”  With Congress regularly dressing down our most senior corporate executives and administrators, who would want these jobs? Long hours, poor pay and embarrassing bullying from elected officials who are desperately trying to avoid blame for the subprime crisis are hardly attractive perks.

So where do we go from here? The good news is that expectations have become much more pessimistic. According to powerhouse investment research firm ISI, the consensus estimate for S&P earnings among institutional investors is now $44.50; entering the year, some were still expecting earnings of better than $50. Also, unemployment is expected to peak at 11% – a much grimmer and probably more accurate expectation than that held a few months ago. Not until stock watchers can begin to revise up their estimates of earnings can this market bottom. As I described in a SHEconomics piece a few weeks ago, the market historically has traded between 10 and 20 times earnings, and averaged 15 times. If you put that average multiple on the prevailing earning estimate, the market should sell at about 670; today the market is at 685.

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Marjorie C.

Lady:  I think we are going to see this happen. 

Might be a good thing, although I’m sure there are those who are receiving help that deserve it.

People come to rely too much on the handout…  it becomes a mentality that is passed on from generation to generation.  

By Marjorie C. on 03/10/2009 11:12 am
JeJe De
I have one question about the recession/depression.  Who is making money off of all this? 
By JeJe De on 03/10/2009 9:01 am
Mommy Dearest
The market may be voting "Obama," Liz dahling, but this Mommy is voting, "No Peek-ing."
By Mommy Dearest on 03/10/2009 9:58 am
Marjorie C.

Mommy:  "Obama,"

Correction:  Nobama.  The market has been voting Nobama.  However, there appears to be a rally today. Citigroup posted a few good months.   Doesn’t take much to restore confidence… or take it away.

By Marjorie C. on 03/10/2009 11:17 am
Mommy Dearest

Marjorie, my dear, the market digests far more information than Presidential policies.  To simplify its movement to reaction to policy is to ignore the thousands of pieces of data that are digested daily, my dear. 

That, it seems to Mommy, is preposterously naive.

Today, using this simplistic argument, the market is voting "Obama," dear Marjorie, and "No Peek-ing."

By Mommy Dearest on 03/10/2009 11:55 am
Marjorie C.

Mommy:  Stock Market Continues to Vote Nobama

The correction was in relation to the title of Liz Peeks’s article.  I really do know the stock market is more complicated than the President.  A bank does well (Citigroup) and the market buys…  not a thing to do with Obama in this instance.  Once the market has confidence that the government will provide a stable environment for companies to prosper, the market will respond.  Today it liked what it saw, today it responded favorably.  The next article from Liz Peek, which I hope will come out around Thursday, will address the reality of what went on.

By Marjorie C. on 03/10/2009 3:33 pm
Lady Gator

Marjorie & Lori —-This is an actual letter sent to the Editor of the Wichita Falls, Texas Record News —-

Dear IRS,

I am sorry to inform you that I will not be able to pay taxes owed April 15, but all is not lost.

I have paid these taxes: Accounts Receivable tax, building permit tax, CDL tax, cigarette tax, corporate income tax, dog license tax, federal income tax, unemployment tax, gasoline tax, hunting license tax, fishing license tax, waterfowl stamp tax, inheritance tax, inventory tax, liquor tax, luxury tax, medicare tax, city, school and county property tax, real estate tax, social security tax, road usagetax, toll road tax, state and city sales tax, recreational vehicle tax, state franchise tax, state unemployment tax, telephone federal excise tax, telephone federal state and local surcharge tax, telephone minimum usage surcharge tax, telephone state and local tax, utility tax, vehicle license registration tax, capitol gains tax, lease severance tax, oil and gas assessment tax.  And, many more that I can’t recall but I have run out of space and money.

When you do not receive my check April 15, just know that it is an honest mistake.  Please treat me the same way you treated Congressmen Charles Rangle, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and ex-Congressman Tom Dashelle, and of course, your boss, Timothy Geithner.  No penalities and no interest.

PS.  I will make at least a partial payment as soon as I get my stimulus check.

 

 

By Lady Gator on 03/10/2009 12:22 pm
Marjorie C.

Lady: I will make at least a partial payment as soon as I get my stimulus check.

That was good for a laugh.  We are nearly taxed to oblivion, not to mention the heaps of fees.  If only we could all be treated like the politicians…  good health care for all, good pensions, long vacations, sick leave a-go-go, and … no penalties or interest on honest mistakes.

By Marjorie C. on 03/10/2009 3:42 pm
Lady Gator
Marjorie—I loved what one of the Republicans said today, "Let’s quit this raise each year, maybe we should have a "review" of each Congressman before we give ourselves a raise"!  Now, that is great thinking.  Of course it won’t happen, but I was pleasantly surprised that someone thought of it.  After all, we "common" folk go through a review each year before we receive a raise - why not the people we elect.  But, maybe that’s TOO common for those folks!
By Lady Gator on 03/10/2009 5:28 pm
deber B
Lady Gator, good letter.   More people should send that in on April 15th.  What a hoot!!   They say we teach people how to treat us…so I guess this is how we treat the government now.   Way too funny.
By deber B on 03/10/2009 12:54 pm
Carol Gino
As far as the stockmarket, is it hard to fathom why people are puzzled if someone offered .25 cents or even .50 cents on the dollar, I would not be seduced into throwing my money at them?  People who worked and saved for years, who considered their 401 K’s part of their “package” have been betrayed by the very people who were charged with caring for their retirement funds.  What has that got to do with Obama?

I’m trying to figure out why nobody on Wall Street gets it, about the lack of trust in the market and the economy I mean.  Even the politicians seem to be looking in the wrong direction. Both Repulicans and Democrats.  And certainly most of the newcasters and reporters are at the very least misguided.  Why is everyone blaming Obama and the administration now for the market fall? 

Where are the biggest Corps cutting costs first?  Layoffs.  So much for loyalty.  I don’t know whether that’s the best way to profitability but I do know it doesn’t inspire me to invest in their companies now. 

Whether the market is corrupt and greedy without enough oversight, or whether they are just incompetent makes little difference to me.  If I’m going to throw my money away, it will be for my own pleasure not someone else’s.  What has that basic lack of trust in Wall street itself, in the brokers and the companies that these organizations tout, got to do with Obama and a new adminstration?

And where were all the smart newscasters who know so much about the capital markets and financials now when we needed them the last 5 years at least to warn us about no oversight, greed, and corruption in the last years?

 

By Carol Gino on 03/11/2009 7:17 pm
Kelly In Texas

Nobama…OhBombUs…whatever…. He has a plan and that plan is based on the America people fearing a collapse of the country. To impliment his socialist agenda, it is a must that there is a perceived threat to our financial well being.

His negativity lowers consumer and investor confidence. Then he is the one that all must "support" if we are to get through this. He is leading this county down a path that was planned and executed. Be not mislead.

 Like sheep to slaughter, like sheep to slaughter.

By Kelly In Texas on 03/11/2009 8:37 pm
Carol Gino
I don’t fear the collapse.  I fear ignorance, if I fear anything.  And capitalism has not been a party of late, in case you haven’t noticed.  For those who are buying into the "fear" it is being transmitted by everyone and the media.  And were we safer when Bush treated us like children?  Were our 401K’s not in danger?  Were our soldiers safe?  Were our houses worth what the markets and the optimists said?  Get real!  Stop buying the propaganda.  It is capitalism– companies with no government regulation– that got us here.  I don’t know what socialism means in this case.  Are we going to be less safe?  Bush didn’t scare us? Wow, pure capitalism!  Can you see that the people who don’t want the government in our wallets do want them in our bedrooms?
By Carol Gino on 03/11/2009 10:06 pm
Kay Sara
Wall Street Journal survey of 49 economist - gave Obama a failing grade for his handling of the economic disaster.  Geithner also got a failing grade- even lower than Paulson.  Since Obama won’t listen to the stock market - I hope he listens to the  WSJ economist survey. 
By Kay Sara on 03/12/2009 3:45 am
Suzanne M
Dear Liz ,
     I find your reference to Obama a tad insulting (why can’t you disagree with policies without the hype?) and regardless of one’s politics, he has been president for 7 weeks! I guess it is true we all want it all, instantly. Let’s step back a few paces and have some rational thought here. I am so tired of the screaming headlines and the screaming pundits- how about some calm, rational, HELPFUL discussion where we don’t spend our energy bashing and smashing?
    Shame on WowoWow and shame on you. I don’t like to listen to people who are insulting to make a point. If your point is valid, make it and it will stand on its own. Nor do I think nasty sarcasm is a valid communication device.
By Suzanne M on 03/12/2009 8:53 am