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Reader Forum | 03/26/2009 7:39 am

NY Times Calls Them Hoovervilles ... Isn't It Time For A New Name? (Reader Forum)

What do YOU think we should call these new tent cities? How about "GeorgeTowns"?
Deborah Barrow

The sad story of tent cities popping up in towns across America made a spectacular leap this morning from the confines of the blogosphere (where they’ve been covered for months, BTW) to, finally, the front page of the New York Times.

Gee, that must mean they’re real. 

The story got the full-on Mainstream Media Treatment in the Times: big splashy photograph of Sacremento’s notorious tent city running across four columns above the fold. That’s prime newspaper real estate and certainly laudable. But one thing perturbs. 

The New York Times article calls these encampments Hoovervilles — the name given to their Great Depression-era antecedents in (dis) honor of President Herbert Hoover, whose administration rode herd over the 20s-era Wall Steet greedmeisters and whose policies plunged the nation into economic armeggedon. 

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C’mon, isn’t it time for a new name for these places?  Oh, the mind spins with possiblities.

Here’s one choice:  GeorgeTowns, a 21st century update to Hoovervilles.

It would both "honor" George W. Bush, the President who for eight years let Wall Street and its lobbyists run amok over our country’s personal wealth and 401-K plans (which was, in fact, just another scheme by Wall Street to divert money out of traditional pension plans and into their newly minted mutual funds, and how has that worked out for you?). 

The fact that many of Washington’s lobbyists bed down at night in the pampered precinct of DC’s real, ritzy Georgetown gives this name added charm.

But, we want to hear your names to replace Hooverville. There are so many possibilities! (Doddville, anyone? Frankfurt?)

Log on and post your suggestions below.

Editor’s Note:  Have fun with the naming on both sides of the issue, but remember, play nice with each other in the community. wOw values all responsibly posed points of view.  And we love funny ones!!

Editor’s Mea Culpa!  When I mentioned a call for "funny" names (above), I did not make it clear enough in the article I was engaging in gallows humor, such as that which ran rampant during the Great Depression of the 1930s, when lots of sly, caustic, highly politicized "names" were created by the people-punditry on both sides (yes, they were also called Rooseveltvilles) to describe the many kinds of sad situations that people of that era of financial distress found themselves.  That’s how words like Hooverville, Dust Bowl, etc., which were at first considered cynically "funny," became part of our national lexicon.  As to the real tragedies behind these appalling new American shanty towns … those are never appropriate objects of humor. Thanks for the comments, and for your suggestions of new "names" to replace the dated "Hoovervilles" as caustic titles for these sad places. -DB

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Rainbow Power
Oh my I am still chuckling to myself.  After reading this, my first thought was Can-o-peecity …. I think I thought about tents being canopies.  Sorry!  It just hit me as funny.
By Rainbow Power on 03/26/2009 8:46 am
Elizabeth L
Chuckling?Funny? How about we call the tent cities Shameful ?
By Elizabeth L on 03/30/2009 7:57 am
Al ias

The economic collapse of the US and world financial markets lays at the feet of the entanglement of the housing and financial sectors.  The triggering cause of the current financial crisis in the United States was the decline in housing prices that began in the summer of 2006.  That decline was the bursting of the housing bubble, supply finally exceeded demand (economic principle).

This decline in housing prices caused a large increase in foreclosures because many people owned houses with mortgages almost equal to the initial value of the houses (loosened lending criteria). When the values of those houses fell and went below the amount of the mortgages, lenders often foreclosed on borrowers.  Rather than pay their debt, some people simply walked away.  This began the ripple effect of failure that resulted in collapse.

Because so many financial institutions owned securities based on these mortgages– so-called mortgage-backed securities (MBS), the large decline in value of these MBS’s led to large losses for these institutions. And because so many of the owners were financial firms that held only a tiny percent of the value of their assets in reserve, even a small percentage decline could, and did, destroy almost the whole value, and sometimes the whole value, of the financial firms that held these securities.  AIG and many other entities bought or invested in securities that were "bundled" by FreddieFannie.  FreddieFannie could have been regulated in 2005 but it was blocked.  FreddieFannie was the entity that bundled the "toxic" loans into securities and sold them to the financial industry.  Franklin Raines was at the head of one of these and resigned after it was found out that he cooked the books to hide the loses.

Virtually all commentators on parts of the political spectrum agree with these facts as stated. Where they part company, though, is on why this happened and on what should be done about it.

The best evidence is that the problem was triggered by previous government regulation (loosening of lending criteria in the 90’s) combined with an unrealistic belief on the part of many people that housing prices could only go up. It is important to understand the cause because, if we do not, we are unlikely to choose good solutions. Indeed, the US federal government has, for over a year, chosen one bad solution after another (bailouts, handouts). 

Bailouts are a bad choice if you understand that free markets can correct themselves.  I believe the bailouts were a bad choice, except for backing the government (taxpayer) insured loans.  Otherwise I do not believe we should spend any money beyond humanitarian support to families until they can get back on their feet. 

Hence the name "George towns" is not an apt…call it Rainesville…

By Al ias on 03/26/2009 9:06 am
Dab-a- do

You have written a very informative piece. However, I think calling the tent cities anything other than what they are - tents for the homeless is not right.

Thanks again for your explaination of how the current economic crises came about.

By Dab-a- do on 03/26/2009 1:18 pm
Al ias

And thank you Dabs for your compliment.  You are right about the name, it should be tent city for the homeless.  I just get so fed up with people just blaming the president (Clinton, Bush, Obama) when they are too damn lazy to look up the facts and see who is truly at fault.  They are snipers…

I liked the person who said "let’s open up the closed military bases and put folks there" - it is a noble idea but is very costly.  I would like to be the businessman who had the contract to open those bases for homeless, I would work for a salary of $1…

GBY !

 

 

By Al ias on 03/26/2009 5:08 pm
l d

i liked Georgetowns - not politically correct, but still appropriate in terms of causation.  Maybe the real work to be done though would be in eliminating homelessness from our vocabulary because we have ended it.  Maybe we need to create a national priority that quits putting band-aids on poverty and all its symptoms, takes care of the folks who cannot care for themselves, gives work to those who can work, trains everyone to the max so that they can contribute back to the economy, and reduces the stress of daily life faced by all of us over things like sufficient medical care, cost of education for our children, safe food, and global warming…  I would like to call the movement The Audacity Plan - its big work, but we CAN do this if we all work together - its audatious, and YES we can…

By l d on 03/28/2009 5:47 pm
Mel Berg
Somehow I don’t find this anything to "have fun with" these are real people who are in need of help. To make light of their plight isn’t right.
By Mel Berg on 03/26/2009 9:32 am
Lee Harrison

Mel,

Amen.  My thoughts exactly.  Plus there’s plenty of blame to spread around both sides of the aisle and up and down Wall Street.

By Lee Harrison on 03/26/2009 9:56 am
Libra Lady
Lee…I totally agree with you and Mel….I think posters should boycott this site now!!!
By Libra Lady on 03/26/2009 11:12 am
Chris Glass`
Those laughing at tent cities need to realize that there might be just the safety net of their job to prevent them from joining that cadre. Many people did not invest in inflated housing or spend unwisely. They ended up there because their jobs vanished and they used up what little savings and retirement they managed to accrue.

As a former reporter I have seen many people down and out on their luck through no fault of their own. It wasn’t that many years ago that many families lived in places fueled by the local industry. When kids without the ability to get further education graduated from school they went to work fore these places. Quite often you could find three generations of a family on a factory floor. Once these factories closed other places followed because the money to support them was gone.

Instead of poking fun at these tent cities and trying to find cutesy names for them they ought to brainstorm ways to help. Maybe some of the lobbyists could lean on those employing them to invest in America again rather than seek tax breaks for going out of the country.

How about opening up some of the closed bases and allowing people to start cottage industries?  Maybe offer retraining and relocation for a fresh start? I find it distasteful that we are looking for names for these places rather than helping the residents of them.



By Chris Glass` on 03/26/2009 9:43 am
Jane Heir
I feel badly saying this but how about something after Barbara Bush’s comments about the Katrina victims who fled to Houston and stayed at the Astrodome?  Millievilles, maybe…  ?
By Jane Heir on 03/26/2009 9:48 am
DeBúrca obj

These tent cities have been cropping up over the last year or so and are America’s dirty little secret and a legacy of the Bush years. This didn’t just happen with the bubble bursting in September either.

I find it disturbing but very telling that the first post on this thread would be someone making a joke about it. I believe the wowOwow demographic has changed dramatically in the last couple of months. And the "Editor" should be ashamed to post the following:

"Editor’s Note:  Have fun with the naming on both sides of the issue, but remember, play nice with each other in the community. wOw values all responsibly posed points of view.  And we love funny ones!!"

"PLAY" nice with each other over naming TENT CITIES at the expense of the misery of our fellow Americans?? Just WHO is running this website these days? I am appalled. SHAME ON YOU wowOwow.

By DeBúrca obj on 03/26/2009 9:57 am
Dab-a- do

DeBurca, I couldn’t agree with you more..I am appalled also.

SHAME ON YOU wowOwow.

By Dab-a- do on 03/26/2009 1:21 pm
Mary Quite-Contrary
DeBurca, don’t fall over in surprise…as I am going to agree with you! Yes! Incredibly poor taste and lack of judgment to make light of the plight of Americans whose last recourse is living in a tent. The dirty shame in the, is in just about every city/town in this country there are bank owned, foreclosed upon properties (by the very banks the Federal government bailed out!). These homes sit empty; off the tax rolls; being vandalized, while in some cases their former “owners” crash w/relatives, entire families cramped into efficiency apts; or their cars (if they still have one) or worst case, a tent city. Instead of the Adminstration/Congress pointing fingers at AIG and all around, why not issue an imperative to renegotiate these foreclosures NOW. Trillions of dollars have been wasted on pork in the Stimulus Plan. Why not, an across the board interest rate cut for the homeowners whose mortgage lenders have been bailed out? Those struggling wouldn’t lose their homes; and those not in trouble with their mortgage could no doubt spur the economy with the extra money they would have each month. But trying to be witty about people in such a dire situation is poor form.
By Mary Quite-Contrary on 03/26/2009 4:17 pm
M J

Back in March ‘08, Check it out:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&add…

Are you old enough to remember Hoover Tent Cities? Just history, just history… from Depression era. 

By M J on 03/26/2009 9:36 pm