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Question of the Day | 04/09/2009 11:00 pm

Is it possible we are getting our groove back as a nation?

Spring is back, the stock market has flirted around 8,000 and housing sales are creeping up … Mary Wells, Candice Bergen, Liz Smith and Joan Ganz Cooney ponder economic optimism
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Mary Wells

Mary Wells | 04/09/2009 11:00 pm

Mary Wells: 'Dangerous' Recession

This recession is different from anything we have known. We are just beginning to understand what happened. It still looks dangerous to me.  I think we have a long way to go before we are cheery.
Liz Smith

Liz Smith | 04/09/2009 11:00 pm

Liz Smith Warns: It's Not Business as Usual

Well, yes, a few days of good news has been nice. But I fear we are still in this slough of depression for the long haul. And we must not go back to business as usual.

Candice Bergen

Candice Bergen | 04/09/2009 11:00 pm

Candice Bergen: A Change for the Better

Groove back? What does this mean exactly? I know Obama has now been criticized for smiling too much (really, can’t people just get a life?) but the O-couple are doing an enormous amount to restore people’s confidence. It will be a long time before everything stabilizes and rights itself, but lately there seems to have been a change for the better.

Joan Ganz Cooney

Joan Ganz Cooney | 04/09/2009 11:00 pm

Joan Ganz Cooney's Optimistic Outlook

Anything is possible; let’s hope we have hit the bottom and will start back up. What you can be certain about is that we won’t return very soon to the economy of the last few years.

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joan larsen

Being upbeat and optimistic runs in my veins .  .  . but we all look with eyes wide open to what we see around us — the increase in homeless, the foreclosure signs that multiply over a week’s time, the chains closing, the restaurants with their special coupons and lower prices to try to lore people in, and we know that we have not hit bottom. 

Just today, in hunting up moving company bids for a large building I am renovating, I ran into something unheard of.  In one of America’s largest cities, many name corporations are downsizing, moving to God knows where, and don’t need their almost new office furniture in their smaller locations.  What they are doing is all but giving it away to non-profits or schools that have been living for years with furnishings that saw better days long ago.  From a company you would easily recognize, we have gotten almost new furnishings the like of which we could not afford and have never seen (!) in both cubicles and executive office spaces for the storage costs only until our renovation is completed.  As I understand, this scenario is now a normal one - downsizing or going out of business of major major corporations.  . but their generiosity allows others to make great strides.

Does this look like an upturn?  No.  But if you are involved in a non-profit, it may be the time for you to ask — for you, too, may be "gifted".  And this is a time when non-profits who are trying to help in every way possible - for individuals and  families - must be in place.  It is here that volunteers are needed - a perfect time to be productive between jobs and feel good about yourselves. 

When we as a country have fallen into a chasm with a bottom still not visible, we must have hope in our leaders.  But - in the meantime - we can do many things to help the less fortunate who have stories that break the heart.  We have people on WOW who are doing just that - and from personal knowledge, I have found that when you are in the midst of giving of yourself, you bring sunshine to others … and the WOW of making a difference brings its own happiness.

By joan larsen on 04/10/2009 1:09 am
Frannie Em

This is a great article by Kitty O’Keefe.  Really explains the crisis and one great way to start getting out of it.

 The Credit Crisis: What It Means and What You Can Do About It

Hey Kitty - I miss ya ;-) 

By Frannie Em on 04/10/2009 1:16 am
Frannie Em

As a small business owner it is still pretty tough.  We have to watch everything, but we haven’t collapsed or had to close our doors.  We have had to borrow from ourselves to keep the doors open, but hey, that is life.  We were able to bring back one of our employees, which was great.  Took a lot of convincing because he was getting unemployment and doing cash jobs on the side so he kind of liked that.

I just feel like I am kind of "holding the line" until the huge cash infusions into the economy get the engine turning over.  Kitty points out in her article that over 90% of the country is still employed, it helps a little to look at it that way.  I am hopeful for those that have lost jobs - I am hopeful because the entrepreneurial spirit of America has never died no matter what has happened to us.  Even after the Great Depression and WW2 our country came out of those two devastating events and thrived and created one of the strongest economies in the world.  That economy has attracted immigrants from every corner of the globe to cast their fate with us and contribute to expanding our world.  

Don’t forget that during the S&L crisis of the 80’s 20,000 banks failed.  Today, what, maybe 50 have failed?  Unemployment was about the same, then began to rise again.  We have to hang on and get busy innovating for the present and future.  It is always possible because ideas and abilities are infinite.   

By Frannie Em on 04/10/2009 1:35 am
Frannie Em

Since the beginning of 2008 43 Banks have failed.

 FDIC: Failed Bank List

Must correct the number of banks that failed in the S&L crisis of the ’80s - there were only 745 failed as opposed to the 20,000 I stated above.  I read that and heard that on two occasions, so I thought it was true, but it seemed odd to me so I looked it up.

The difference is that about 700 more failed during the S&L crisis of the 80’s 

By Frannie Em on 04/11/2009 8:43 pm
phyllis Doyle Pepe
Thanks Frannie–––she did this very well. I miss her too.
By phyllis Doyle Pepe on 04/10/2009 8:07 am
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P.D.P.—Well, join Mugsy on Facebook were she and Frannie both are in her group.
By ~ ~~ on 04/10/2009 11:15 am
Frannie Em

Phyllis - When I like them I comment at the end so that she starts to get "hits" for her writing.

On an aside, I remember you appreciated the poem that my youngest wrote me when he was 8.  He had writing assignment for English on Julius Ceasar by Shakespeare and he got a perfect grade, and the instructor commented that he wrote like a college student.  Sorry just a little parental bragging, but he was so pleased it was really nice to see.  Just that comment by that teacher has invigorated his desire to write better.

By Frannie Em on 04/10/2009 7:07 pm
Diana T
Thank you, Frannie for posting this.  I had read it before, and she has such an easy to understand  approach to things. 
By Diana T on 04/10/2009 10:02 am
Frannie Em

Hey Diana

How does your garden grow, mine is rich in fuschia and hot pink.  Trying to get some balance in the bloom sequences and heights of the different levels in my garden.  I wish money grew on trees.  Can you get your green thumbs to grow some for me? 

By Frannie Em on 04/10/2009 7:39 pm
Diana T

Well, Frannie, if I could get money growing, I sure would!

As far as the garden,  we had storms all day long, and I was in and out of them trying to retrieve about 100 daffodils and assorted cuttings from flowering shrubs to condition and get to the church tomorrow.  What a day!  But,  soon it will be okay to plant some pretty things; this year I’m concentrating on replacing perennials and bulbs that have disappeared over time.

By Diana T on 04/10/2009 11:58 pm
Zera Lee
Thanks Frannie, that was a good read with a clear explanation. Do you know if she has written about credit default swaps?
By Zera Lee on 04/10/2009 4:08 pm
C jay

KUDOS dear sister! In essence, the truth lies within each of us, and we know what it really is, not only deep down, but shamefully easily, if we are willing.

BTW, this sharing of any and all office items has been well-utilized by NGOs for years - since the early 1970s, and any astute NGO executive should know about it, or not be their executive. There is an online website for this, too.

Once our national leaders are willing to stop salving the for-profit sector and eliminate same fro all human services, we will start to heal. Until then, we must do everything ourselves to first care for ourselves (we cannot help others if we are not whole), then turn to help others - in most cases they are right in front of our faces, but we have acquired eyes that do not see, ears that do not hear, and noses that only pick up malodorous scents, and fingers that do not feel others pain.

I have room for anyone who needs a place to stay! I do not turn others away. This we must do now, more than ever before. In America, how can we accept another from not having the basic necessities of life: shelter, food, safety, and work?

 Look up the Catholic Worker Movement! It’s in each city/town in most areas of the US. I think I’m turning mi casa into one, soon. I’ve done it before, and shall again. (Catholic or not!)

By C jay on 04/10/2009 11:13 am
Patrice Baldwin
I like your upbeat attitude, C jay. I think there are enough people who aren’t doing so badly to help those who are unemployed, laid-off or just sinking slowly. I’m trying to do the same in my own way with a gifting program that could get some up and running pretty quickly. The internet is still very much alive, and I’m taking advantage of it. If anyone wants to know more, please just let me know: patbooks2@lycos.com   I’ll tell ya all about it. I want to help too.
By Patrice Baldwin on 04/10/2009 4:50 pm
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On ‘Black Friday’ last October I was talking with an acquaintance who has a Harvard MBA, and created and sold a national brand for $145M. When I said to him this was not going away, the fundamentals weren’t there, he dismissed it. Liz Peek did the same here, as did another financial advisor here who was part of the wOw community.

I am very glad that President Obama is at the helm, at the same time believe an emergency summit of Nobel Economists should have been convened in WDC back in October.  

There is no precursor to what is happening today because we’ve never had $700 trillion+ in unregulated, valueless derivatives in the market before overshadowing the global wealth by over ten times. We’ve never had mega-banks/insurance companies the size of Citigroup/BofA/AIG that are bankrupt [morally and otherwise], nor debt the % size of GDP that we own to emerging nations while we aren’t manufacturing anything. Nor have we had the WTO and an interlinked, reactionary global economy; and a wiped-out middle-class.

My sector grew 6% in the last quarter of 2008, and I anticipate will grow even more in the next. And I think that as in the Depression, now is a good time to start intelligent, well conceived and well executed small businesses. Everything is a bargain and small businesses are the engine of the economy. Women, for example, who are doing resumes online have more business than they can handle. Someone I know is making over $100K+ yr online just selling WWII-era vintage, silk-screen posters.

I think reading "What Would Google Do?" is a good thing, because we are in a Google economy and people who get that, understand the Internet really well, will do fine. Other good resources are reading Mashable.com every day. The CEO, Pete Cashmore, is one of the top 25 Internet experts in the world according to Forbes. Entrepreneur.com and the SBA.com site also have lots of good info. 

Action is a magic wand, fear just clouds the mind and sinks the spirit. And listening to pundits instead of doing one’s own careful research will make you feel whipsawed. Seek and ye shall find.

 

 

 

By ~ ~~ on 04/10/2009 2:47 am