Way back when, in the days when I smoked 3 packs a day, I happened to go to the veterinarian’s office one day. He was adamant about the bad effects of smoking, I guess I must have smelled like an ashtray that day because he came right out and asked me when I was going to quit. He was hoping that it would be soon because my poor pets were suffering the effects of second-hand smoke. GASP! [Smart man knew my pets were most important to me.] A few days afterwards I had an asthma attack. I quit and have never smoked again. Not one puff. That was over 20 years ago. I say this because if I can quit, anyone can.
The only reason they advertise is $$$$$$$$. To hell with the consequences.
Andrea….I am so proud of you for stopping "cold turkey"….great going!!!! Of course, pets suffer from second hand smoke just as humans. Good for you….you are a true pet lover!!! Right Me Too????
Banning is not the answer. This administration wants nothing more than for people to jump on the bandwagon and have the government "decide" what we should or should not have available to us.
The answer is FULLDISCLOSURE. All information should be available along with the adverstising. We are at this moment, still a free country. Americans make their OWN decisions…for good and bad. Drinking too much water can kill you as well….
It is all about personal decisions….INFORMED personal decisions and consequences….you smoke…you pay for the disease.
When it comes to smoking there can be no informed decision based on information. The simple truth is that someone else’s smoking harms those who do not smoke.
Would you want someone with full blown TB out in the open?
The best thing CA ever did was make smoking illegal in restaurants, workplaces, etc., etc.
Yes, I agree Andrea…..smoking in public areas does effect others, yes. No doubt that smoking has no redeeming qualities!
However, if some decide to smoke in their own privacy…it is their decision. Smoking is legal, so the only way to combat it is for more information and disclosure for the public. Perhaps a percentage of advertising dollars should be spent on information and diclosure.
If someone wants to smoke in his own home, fine. He can swing from the chandeliers and that’s fine. But it’s when he kills the cigarette and goes to his office where all the staff have to smell the stale smoke on the clothes. Awful.
In southern CA our homes are practically on top of one another. So if someone smokes in his backyard it easily drifts into the next.
More disclosure? Don’t think it will work. What happens is that they add the info at heft cost and invariably raise the price of the cigarettes in order to pay for it, which only makes the smoker mad. Vicious cycle.
You know…something really seems wrong when the President feels comfortable signing the strongest anti-smoking measure ever, giving the FDA unprecedented power in regulating tobacco and cigarette marketing. And he is still a smoker…
As usual, this man thinks himself above the people. He should set an example and lead the citizens away from the habit. The attention that would bring to the problem would do more good than hundreds of PSA’s.
I wonder where he smokes? In the White House? Around his family? Around employees? Where?
People with narcissistic personalities do not consider themselves part of the masses and therefore can do as they please.
The man should know that in the UK and other countries with socialized medicine people who smoke are prohibited from receiving certain healthcare benefits. Same as people who are overweight. The consensus is that if you disregarded known facts and continued to smoke or breathe bon-bons, then too bad.
As far as it being a lifelong battle - sure. But that’s life.
I don’t see that this bill will really do much good. Last I heard the FDA was understaffed. Kids don’t read labels unless it has to do with clothes.
Remember how surprised some of us were to learn that healthcare insurance companies own stock in tobacco companies? I wonder, do the tobacco companies own stock in drug companies???? Anyone know?
Maybe he doesn’t know this. Maybe someone should tell him.
Your questions about where and around whom he smokes make me wonder. If the White House is essentially considered an office, then there might be some recourse for the employees who have to breath second hand smoke.
Andrea…so many good questions in your posts…of course…it would make huge sense for tobacco to invest in pharmacuticals….but I bet under different names, hard to trace back. But you bet…sure they are.
Hey did you hear that ACORN has changed their name? Yep…they are now the "Community Organizers Intl." oh ya…going international now. One of the founders, Rathke is trying to set up Nationalized Health care in India…they are looking into buying foriegn banks…
I’m telling you…Obama has always had the world stage on his real agenda…now ACORN the one organization that has taken him to where he is has made millions, are in line for BILLIONS and have gone International.
COI - hmmmmm, that’s the acronym I’ve always used for "conflict of interest."
Wade Rathke, one of the original founders of ACORN, is trying to set up a healthcare system in India? This is the trial run? His brother, Dale, was an embezzler. I just found a bunch of links to Rathke - he certainly keeps himself spread out.
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Hi, LL.
Way back when, in the days when I smoked 3 packs a day, I happened to go to the veterinarian’s office one day. He was adamant about the bad effects of smoking, I guess I must have smelled like an ashtray that day because he came right out and asked me when I was going to quit. He was hoping that it would be soon because my poor pets were suffering the effects of second-hand smoke. GASP! [Smart man knew my pets were most important to me.] A few days afterwards I had an asthma attack. I quit and have never smoked again. Not one puff. That was over 20 years ago. I say this because if I can quit, anyone can.
The only reason they advertise is $$$$$$$$. To hell with the consequences.
LL,
MeeToo thinks I’m the greatest thing since chopped sirloin. [Can’t you tell I’m the one who feeds him?]
Seriously, pets ARE greatly affected by cigarette smoke.
Banning is not the answer. This administration wants nothing more than for people to jump on the bandwagon and have the government "decide" what we should or should not have available to us.
The answer is FULL DISCLOSURE. All information should be available along with the adverstising. We are at this moment, still a free country. Americans make their OWN decisions…for good and bad. Drinking too much water can kill you as well….
It is all about personal decisions….INFORMED personal decisions and consequences….you smoke…you pay for the disease.
Or die. You decide.
KIT,
When it comes to smoking there can be no informed decision based on information. The simple truth is that someone else’s smoking harms those who do not smoke.
Would you want someone with full blown TB out in the open?
The best thing CA ever did was make smoking illegal in restaurants, workplaces, etc., etc.
Yes, I agree Andrea…..smoking in public areas does effect others, yes. No doubt that smoking has no redeeming qualities!
However, if some decide to smoke in their own privacy…it is their decision. Smoking is legal, so the only way to combat it is for more information and disclosure for the public. Perhaps a percentage of advertising dollars should be spent on information and diclosure.
Kelly,
If someone wants to smoke in his own home, fine. He can swing from the chandeliers and that’s fine. But it’s when he kills the cigarette and goes to his office where all the staff have to smell the stale smoke on the clothes. Awful.
In southern CA our homes are practically on top of one another. So if someone smokes in his backyard it easily drifts into the next.
More disclosure? Don’t think it will work. What happens is that they add the info at heft cost and invariably raise the price of the cigarettes in order to pay for it, which only makes the smoker mad. Vicious cycle.
You know…something really seems wrong when the President feels comfortable signing the strongest anti-smoking measure ever, giving the FDA unprecedented power in regulating tobacco and cigarette marketing. And he is still a smoker…
As usual, this man thinks himself above the people. He should set an example and lead the citizens away from the habit. The attention that would bring to the problem would do more good than hundreds of PSA’s.
I wonder where he smokes? In the White House? Around his family? Around employees? Where?
And why not stop.
Weeeeelllllll, Kelly,
People with narcissistic personalities do not consider themselves part of the masses and therefore can do as they please.
The man should know that in the UK and other countries with socialized medicine people who smoke are prohibited from receiving certain healthcare benefits. Same as people who are overweight. The consensus is that if you disregarded known facts and continued to smoke or breathe bon-bons, then too bad.
As far as it being a lifelong battle - sure. But that’s life.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-smoking-obama23-2009jun23,0,5164752.story
I don’t see that this bill will really do much good. Last I heard the FDA was understaffed. Kids don’t read labels unless it has to do with clothes.
Remember how surprised some of us were to learn that healthcare insurance companies own stock in tobacco companies? I wonder, do the tobacco companies own stock in drug companies???? Anyone know?
Maybe he doesn’t know this. Maybe someone should tell him.
Your questions about where and around whom he smokes make me wonder. If the White House is essentially considered an office, then there might be some recourse for the employees who have to breath second hand smoke.
Andrea…so many good questions in your posts…of course…it would make huge sense for tobacco to invest in pharmacuticals….but I bet under different names, hard to trace back. But you bet…sure they are.
Hey did you hear that ACORN has changed their name? Yep…they are now the "Community Organizers Intl." oh ya…going international now. One of the founders, Rathke is trying to set up Nationalized Health care in India…they are looking into buying foriegn banks…
I’m telling you…Obama has always had the world stage on his real agenda…now ACORN the one organization that has taken him to where he is has made millions, are in line for BILLIONS and have gone International.
This is it…this the real agenda… mark my words.
Kelly,
I don’t doubt the agenda.
COI - hmmmmm, that’s the acronym I’ve always used for "conflict of interest."
Wade Rathke, one of the original founders of ACORN, is trying to set up a healthcare system in India? This is the trial run? His brother, Dale, was an embezzler. I just found a bunch of links to Rathke - he certainly keeps himself spread out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Rathke
http://chieforganizer.org/2009/06/17/global-action-on-remittances/#more-1635
I had no idea they were so spread out….Mexico, Canada, South America, Africa…….
This does not bode well.