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The Lesley Stahl Interview | 06/23/2009 1:20 pm

Christiane Amanpour: If I'm Kidnapped I Want People to Know About It

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Editor’s Note: CNN Chief International Correspondent Christiane Amanpour joined Lesley Stahl this morning for a wOw exclusive interview. Here is an excerpt from that conversation about The New York Times’s deliberate decision to hold back coverage of David Rohde’s kidnapping, in the wake of his recent escape from the Taliban. The full interview – ranging from reporting on the crisis in Iran to the counterintuitively dominant role of women there can be found by clicking here.

LESLEY STAHL: As a person, obviously, who’s carrying the banner for good, old-fashioned, hard-leather reporting, let me ask you about this New York Times reporter, David Rohde.

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR: Yes.

LESLEY:
Rohde was held captive in Pakistan for seven months and not only did The New York Times, his home newspaper, never report it, The New York Times went out and persuaded virtually every single other news organization, including CNN, not to report it. This is astonishing in every way. What are your opinions on that? Should we have reported this, in your view?

CHRISTIANE: I would love to talk to David about this and see what he thought. I don’t know The New York Times’s reasoning on that and I don’t know what they know that we didn’t know, in terms of who they were dealing with.

LESLEY: Let me interrupt for one second. Because Bill Keller, the executive editor of The New York Times, said last night that David Rohde thanked him and he was grateful. So that’s what David Rohde thinks. But, of course, no one knew that. No one knew what he thought at the time.

CHRISTIANE:
Well, I can only assume that The New York Times wasn’t doing anything nefarious and that they were doing what they thought they should do for his safety.

LESLEY: Right.

CHRISTIANE: There are many people who have said, certainly with the Taliban, the more the plight of a kidnappee was publicized, the longer that he would be kept and the more money would be asked for him. That, for sure, I’ve heard for businesspeople who’ve been kidnapped, and others in Afghanistan. I’m just delighted it seems that David escaped. I’m glad he was able to do that. Seven months is a heck of a long time. Remember, though, back in the ’80s when people like Terry Anderson were kept. I think he was kept for six years or so. But there’s a double-edged sword toward how to behave when one of your own is taken in. Some people think that excessive publicity harms them; others think that it shows those people that they’re holding somebody who they need to release; that it is a journalist, that it’s not a spy, that it’s not anybody else – it’s a journalist. It works different ways in different places.

LESLEY: Well, it was a toughie, but I’m with you. I’m just so glad that David Rohde is out and free, alive and healthy and all of that.

CHRISTIANE: If I’m kidnapped I want you, personally, to lead the charge and make sure people know about it.

LESLEY: You do? You would want –

CHRISTIANE: I do, actually. I do.

LESLEY: Well it’s a big debate here now and we’ll see where it leads. There are troubling aspects to it because you and I know that we’ve been trained that our first obligation is to the public, and we should report whatever we know. So when there are exceptions to that it needs to be explored and looked at and discussed, and I hope we do more of that.

CHRISTIANE: I think, in these instances, you also have to think about the security of the person involved, and I think there are many people who advise … and we don’t always get it right, but who knows? Look at poor Daniel Pearl – how much publicity was done. I’m not saying it would have worked a different way, but he was beheaded. You know, I don’t know what would’ve happened. On the other hand, Roxana Saberi’s case was heavily publicized and she was released because the president of the United States basically said that she was not a spy for the U.S., and the Iranian government, the president of Iran, Ahmadinejad – who’s now such a lightning rod – he’s the one who told the judiciary in so many words to basically get her out.

9 Reader Comments (so far…) Sign In or Register to comment

rockyrocky
It seems perfectly logical to me that the NYT decided not to turn the kidnapped reporter into a symbol of some sort that the Taliban and their cousins Al Queda could exploit to serve their causes. By keeping silent, they narrowed the benefits the dastards could expect, allowing Rohde to remain a plain and simple kidnap-for-money victim. However, in the end whether their decision helped or hurt must be left to David Rohde himself to say … 
By rockyrocky on 06/23/2009 2:08 pm
sibelledaubigne
Dear Christiane, not only on " 60 Minutes" with Lesley but also on "Fareed Zakaria" every sunday in the US. I am sure you are aware! Good luck!
By sibelledaubigne on 06/23/2009 2:27 pm
JudyK

When a Country becomes so dangerous that getting a story isnt worth the risk, I say the journalists should be required to get out before they are kidnapped or killed.  Today with e-mail and cell phones the story will get out over the airwaves.  To put families in turmoil and risk diplomatic relations with a Country  by a few journalistic pioneers isnt worth it any more.  Discretion is the better part of valor.  Sheath your swords and use your pens from a safe distance.

By JudyK on 06/23/2009 2:54 pm
JamestheGame
Rohde’s life could’ve been compromised with the coverage, Leslie. That was the overriding factor in the decision. More information may come out in the not-too-distant future on this.
By JamestheGame on 06/23/2009 2:57 pm
ChrisGlass
The mindset of some foreign countries can be hard for the average American to understand. These people didn’t grow up with the privileges that we take for granted. A kidnapped diplomat or journalist is a bargaining chip. If there is a lot of negative publicity after the person is captured it may be easier to kill them than agree to free them or bargain for their release and get caught.
By ChrisGlass on 06/23/2009 3:34 pm
canuckcanuck
Christiane Amanpour should be our Secretary of State. She is a great reporter and a jewel to our country.
By canuckcanuck on 06/23/2009 5:15 pm
DawnSmith
I agree that the less said, the better for the hostage. What I don’t understand is what is happening to the 2 women reporters that were given prison sentences in N.Korea for crossing the border. What is our State Dept. doing about this?
By DawnSmith on 06/23/2009 10:10 pm
ChrisGlass
Good question.
By ChrisGlass on 06/23/2009 11:31 pm
DarylMoen

When the kidnappers announce they are holding journalists captive—as they have in North Korea—then the press should cover it vigorously. If the kidnappers remain silent—as they did in the Rhode case—then there could be an argument against publicity. But the bottom line is you have to make the case NOT to cover, not WHETHER to cover.

By the way, Ms. Stahl, check out the difference between anxiety and eager. 

By DarylMoen on 06/24/2009 10:18 am