Dear Margo | 05/14/2009 11:00 pm
Dear Margo: Mothers and Phone Calls
Mothers and Phone Calls
Dear Margo: I am a 40-year-old college-educated business owner, wife and mother of two young boys. My mother and father live a half-hour away. I used to call once a week. If I let more than a week go by, I would get a sour greeting from my mother, such as, "Oh, about time you called," and the conversation would go downhill from there. This would get me mad, as I did not call to be scolded. As the years went by, my phone calls became less frequent. In 10 years (I’m not exaggerating), my mother has called me maybe five times. She just expects me to call her. Why would someone act that way? — Frustrated Daughter in Arizona
Dear Frus: I don’t know if you’re old enough to remember the brilliant Nichols & May routines, but a famous one has a generic mother scolding a grown child: "So how come I never hear from you? You never write, you never call." Like much comedy, this bit was based on the universal truth that some mothers want to be in touch more than the offspring does, and they also think they should not have to be the ones to initiate the call. Why? Their answer is the age-old response to many a question: "Because I’m the mother." You really have two choices: You can continue things as they are, phoning less and feeling annoyed, or, if you like your mother, you can reinstate the weekly phone calls just because it makes her happy. My kids and I have a routine where whoever has something to say — or just wants to talk — picks up the phone. So whether or not you play along really has to do with how you feel about your mother. — Margo, analytically
Dear Margo: I have been divorced from my first husband, "Lionel," for 13 years. He was an abusive alcoholic who (thankfully) skipped the state eight years ago to avoid paying child support for our children, "Eloise," now 21, and "Laura," 18. At last count, Lionel owes more than $60,000 in back child support and only recently re-established contact with the girls. Laura is graduating high school this year and asked her father to attend the ceremony. He said he couldn’t because he didn’t want to drive 500 miles over Memorial Day weekend, but that he would attend her celebration party three weeks later.
My current husband is furious. He’s been a big part of the girls’ lives for 10 years, and together we’ve raised two healthy, well-adjusted young ladies. He absolutely doesn’t want Lionel at the party, and frankly, neither do I — he’s extremely rude, obnoxious and inappropriate even while sober. We didn’t have any objections to her father attending the ceremony, but he is not welcome in our home. I have told him he is not to attend the party, but he states he’s going to do what he wants. If he shows up, my husband would like to have him arrested, since he has several outstanding warrants in our state. That would only hurt Laura. I’d like to try to keep the peace and encourage Lionel to leave quickly, but my normally easygoing husband is being stubborn. We’re arguing about this lout every day, and I’m at a loss on how to handle this situation. — Stressed Out in a Small Town
Dear Stress: It is too bad Laura mentioned the party, given everyone’s history. A public ceremony in a high school is another story. I frankly think the chances of Lionel "leaving quickly" are somewhere between slim and none. Seeing as how there are warrants out for his arrest in your state, I would write him a note saying that he might want to stay home because the local police will be at the party. The bottom line is that it is your house and he should choose another time to see the girls. — Margo, steadfastly
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LW#1: mom’s are like that, especially older ones. you can either call her more often, keep it the same or listen to her bitch. she probably feels as most mother from her time feel, that it’s up to you to prove YOUR love to her. she obviously isn’t going to change. so the ball is in your court, deal with it or not!
LW#2: i wasn’t happy when my daughter got curious about her father and even tho he had abandoned both his son and daughter when they were 8 & 9 1/2yrs old. i even had nightmares about it and my daughter was 17yrs old. but if you care about your daughter you will let him be at the party. because at least THIS way YOU control what he says and does in her presense.
if you stop him from coming you will only push her to want to meet him more and spend more time with him just to spite you. yes your current husband is feeling hurt and unappreciated BUT she obviously wants to show her no account father she has done well. maybe she wants him to see what a good job her step father has done, or maybe she just wants to know he cares. the fact that he refuses to drive to the ceremony, but not the party is telling. he knows he will be scrutinized by other parents there as to why he is suddenly in her life. but the party he just be dad from out of town.
tell your husband to quit being a baby about it. i had to let my ex come over to my house and it was a good thing too. my kids got to meet their half brothers and got reunited with their family. they didn’t spend much time with him, but they did keep in touch with their brothers. a truly wonderful thing. i would tell him he is welcome at the party as long as he observes the ground rules of your house, no drinking, swearing, lewd talk, bringing up the past etc. it would probably be a good idea to make sure your daughter ONLY has non-alcoholic beverages served at the party. my step son had a wonderful wedding with only sparking apple juice served instead of champayne, which made for a wonderfully sober reception. no fights, no driving drunk and no shit!
so suck it up step father and she will see you for the best step daddy in the world. sometimes it’s best to let her see just what a fool he is. believe me you and your hubby raised her and that means she has sense and she will see him for what he is. my kids barely bothered with him after that and he died a few years later. they did not go to his funeral. have him arrested later, have the DA’s office find him later. do not embarrass your daughter by bringing the police to her party and i wouldn’t tell him the police will be there either. nothing like making your daughter hate you really fast!
What a great example for single, never married people to never marry a divorced person, especially one with kids. I mean, having raised two step-children well for 10 years and what do you get as a reward? Being forced to invite a fugitive criminal non-child support paying ex-husband into one’s OWN home, not a public ceremony, but your OWN HOME? Then your advice is to tell this man to "suck it up"? No need for more reminders on never getting involved with a divorced woman, especially one with kids.
No, the kids wouldn’t forgive having Daddy arrested, and it would cement any lies he’s told about the mother as being true. I wouldn’t have a shady character like that in my house, so I’d try to reserve a room or even a picnic area somewhere to have the party. At least then, you wouldn’t have to worry about him casing the place or stealing stuff.
Archie Bunker and Fresh Prince both had episodes about Daddy coming to visit. The kids got all excited, but true to form, the miscreant fathers let them down. I think the LW should give him the chance to fall on his face, just not in her house.
I’m facing some situations like that in the probably-near future. "Daddy" has no trouble being good, as long as no one expects anything from him. I wish for the kids that he won’t let them down, but I’m 110% certain that he will.
LW 1: My dad is the same way (and he’s not even that old!) I have to be the one to call — unless he needs/wants something from me, or comes across something he wants to tell me about. He doesn’t call to ask how I am, what’s been going on, etc. He’ll do the birthday/Christmas/Easter/Thanksgiving calls, unless I call first, but that’s it! Just accept her for who she is and either call her, or don’t expect her to call.
LW 2: Someone above said it best — after all this, he probably won’t show. If he’s been absent this long, he’ll probably stay that way, with the exception of phone calls and empty promises. Although I would tend to agree with your current husband — if he shows up, just call the cops. You warned him not to come (it is YOUR house after all, not Laura’s, she lives there because she is YOUR daughter), and he is trepassing. Laura may be angry, but she may also have invited him because she felt like she should/had to/etc.
Just my opinions!
for the first post - be damn glad your mother is still alive to call. I would give my left arm and right leg and anything else to be able to talk to my Mom - and it would be on any terms that she dictated - she died at the age of 56 - way too young - so just be glad you have here and quit your crabbing about it
as far as the second letter - send an anonyomous letter to the local PD alerting them to about the time he will be arriving in town and which route he will be using - they can catch him and no one ever need kno wit was you
Two reasons my mom doesn’t call me except rarely. One she doesn’t want to impose & two because when she was growing up it was very expensive to call & she & her mom agreed to talk once a month. She realizes this is silly but she still goes by it. She used to be annoyed that a coworker & her dtr spoke every day. We also have a huge problem getting off the phone & end up in trouble with our (jealous) spouses. :)
AS for Lionel, he only said he would come because he was sure that Laura’s mother would say no way. THis way he’d be off the hook & make the mom look bad. If he won’t drive 500 miles for one event , why would he for the other.
To Frustrated Daughter: You’re allowing your mother to communicate with you as if you were still a kid. Eleanor Roosevelt said it best: no one can make you feel inferior without your permission. Stop giving your mom permission. Every time she scolds you for not calling enough, it’s up to you to call her on it and tell her to stop. She won’t like it, and it will most likely cause some backlash…old habits die hard and she’s always going to want to look at you like you’re her little girl.
But if you’re persistant (this is where you can take advantage of some of the traits she’s given you over the years), and be an adult about it, she’ll eventually relent.
Treat her like a peer instead of a parent figure, say your truth clearly and respectfully…and what will happen is that you’ll change…you’ll change your perception of yourself, and your perception of her. And once you change those perceptions, you’ll change your relationship.
You’re 40, but it’s time you grew up. And as someone else said…your mom has a lot less time on this planet than you do. If you have positive feelings for her, NOW is the time to start building a new and better relationship. NOW!
To Stressed Out: If your daughter wants to establish a relationship with her biological father, you shouldn’t get in the way. That said, I would agree that a graduation party is probably not the best time to start.
Isn’t any kind of compromise possible? Pick a time after the party when the two of them can have some private time together? Seems to me there’s either a lack of communication or an inability to communicate…I don’t even get that you’ve tried to negotiate a compromise between your desires and your daughter’s.
The thing is…your letter makes it all sound like it’s about you and your current husband…your anger, how it’s going to upset the two of you, how much you don’t want him there. I don’t get that you even care that your daughter wants to make this connection. It’s her right…even if it IS going to hurt her.
Your daughter’s growing up…if you trust the job you’ve done raising her, it’s time to give her some respect
On the 40-year-old daughter: I agree with TJ that it’s never too late to confront mom and change the nature of the relationship. My grandmother used to be a bitter, judgmental woman and often started conversations with a passive-aggressive comment like that. Finally, mom and her 2 sisters sat her down and explained that when she starts the conversation with a grump, no one wants to come over or talk to her because it’s like facing punishment each time. After some arguing and crying, and a little bit of time, family came together for the next "compulsory" holiday gathering, and everyone was amazed to find the sun shining and a big smile on grandma’s face. She had stewed on the conversation, talked to her friends about it, and come to the realization that she HAD been making it miserable for people to be around her.
I’m delighted to say that we had 20 more years with her, and she enjoyed the closest, most loving relationships of her life during those last 20 years. Not only with us, but with her circle of friends, too. All it took was for her daughters to band together and show her a "mirror" so she could understand how hard it was to be with her, and that they loved her and wanted that to change. To grandma’s credit: she was a very smart lady who was willing to change her attitude and be with her extended family rather than be "right" and lose contact with everyone.
And yes…we all expected to call HER. ;)