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Joe the Plumber, Elisabeth Hasselbeck | 05/08/2009 10:25 am

Elisabeth Hasselbeck Calls Joe the Plumber 'Ignoramus' for 'Queer' Comment (Video)

The View’ ladies blast ‘Joe’ for saying he won’t even let gay friends ‘anywhere near my children.’
By The Staff at wowOwow.com
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Elisabeth Hasselbeck may be a Republican, but that doesn’t mean she’s going to support every Tom, Dick or Joe the Plumber claiming to be a good conservative.

She had some choice words yesterday for Samuel Wurzelbacher — better known as "Joe the Plumber" — primarily: ignoramus.

In an interview this week with Christianity Today, Wurzelbacher was asked about whether gay marriage should be decided by the states instead of the federal government. His response has caused a firestorm of fury. Here’s what he said:

I personally still think it’s wrong. People don’t understand the dictionary — it’s called queer. Queer means strange and unusual. It’s not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that. You know, God is pretty explicit in what we’re supposed to do — what man and woman are for … I’ve had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn’t have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they’re people, and they’re going to do their thing.

On "The View" yesterday, not only did co-hosts Joy Behar and others take him to task for his comments — saying he should send his kids to Mars if he doesn’t want them near anyone who is gay — Hasselbeck said: "I think this is an ignoramus statement … Joe the Plumber is not invited anywhere around me." To which Behar yells out, "Turning! Turning!"

Watch the video below:

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Maggie W

What a jerk! .  Joe, you know you don’t have any gay friends.  Who would want to hang with ignorant ilk like you if you won’t even let " those people" near your children?

 I find it more than amusing that someone like Joe would assume that people don’t understand the dictionary like he does.

By Maggie W on 05/08/2009 10:48 am
Nancy Cleveland
Given Joe’s comment that he "has gay friends", I agree with Maggie (that I don’t believe he does) but, first and foremost, how does he know?  Of all the friends I’ve made throughout my life we became friends because we had/have an affinity toward each other, common interests…but not once did I think to say "Wait!  Before we can be friends, what is your sexual preference/with whom do you sleep?"  Furthermore, I don’t ever recall anyone asking me those questions.  We are drawn to others for a myriad of reasons and I don’t every recall anyone’s sexuality being a prerequisite to continuing a friendship.  If people like Joe…and the media…would realise there’s much more to one’s lifestyle than who they share a life with…and get their heads out of others’ bedrooms humanity would be better off.
By Nancy Cleveland on 05/08/2009 11:30 am
Kelly In Texas

Well…what about the TV show "Queer eye for the Straight guy"? What the hell???

It is a used word, it is used by the gay community. I DO HAVE gay friends. One of which states often, " I just can’t stand a flaming queer". He is talking about a specific type of personality. Gays talk that way, they talk like that to their friends. So this " shock" about the word "queer" is ridiculous.

And, like it or not, there are homosexuals that do take every opportunity to push the gay agenda. They will talk about the gay lifestyle to children and teenagers. They will stand on their soapbox at every opportunity. Just as heterosexuals will yammer on about their own special interests.

So, Joe has every right to limit the exposure that his children have to the gay lifestyle. It is his right and for him, his duty as a father.

It would be so much easier for everyone if what goes on in their bedrooms, stayed in their bedrooms. But instead, there is a large part of the gay community that takes the stage front and center to push the gay agenda at every turn. I think that is creating a backlash that is not serving their issue well.

 

By Kelly In Texas on 05/08/2009 12:01 pm
Nancy Cleveland
Yes, Kelly, everyone has the right to do what each thinks best for him/herself and/or their children but in some situations…such as this…what does he hope to achieve (or eliminate) on or from their lives?  That seems to go to the hypothesis that homosexuality is a "choice" and therefore children can be swayed in that direction.  I had two acquaintances my daughter (at age 12yrs.) happened to enjoy and love.  They were lesbians, partners…she house/pet sat for them, became friends where I remained an acquaintance.  These women did ask a mutual friend if I was "okay with this" given public opinion, especially more than a couple of decades ago.  Of course I was…their "lifestyle" wasn’t a choice, they did not have an agenda to convert and they taught my daughter things she wanted to learn that I had no knowledge or interest in…such as sewing…lol.  She grew up, dated, married.  I, on the other hand, realised that after some forty years of living a certain life and feeling something didn’t fit, was missing, not quite right found myself, my authentic self, and came out.  No matter how we are raised, what we are taught or taught to believe by others…parents or peers…, no matter from whom we are "protected" or sheltered, seems to me we will find who we really are and what is genuinely us.  And thank God for that.      
By Nancy Cleveland on 05/08/2009 3:04 pm
Kelly In Texas

Children can be are some have been "swayed" by pressures to experiment and accept gay experiences. It is necessary to have an open and on going conversation with children concerning the gay lifestyle. I feel that by presenting it as "exactly like the heterosexual lifestyle" there is a social pressure to accept and include this choice as the norm.

It is not the norm, and should be presented and explained to children as a choice and a different decision to be respected as such. I go one step further and explain and discuss the different reasons that same sex identity occurs.

I am happy that you have found peace and are living the life that you feel comfortable in. However, I do disagree with the assumption that to be gay is your "authentic self". There are many reasons that someone has a sexual identity with the same sex. The issues and situations are too varied to go into here. But, that it happens is a fact. Sex is a private matter and should reamain that way.

There are many, many gay couples that are wonderful, that keep their sex lives private. I have many friends that fit that desription.

By Kelly In Texas on 05/08/2009 3:35 pm
Amanda C

Children can be are some have been "swayed" by pressures to experiment and accept gay experiences.

and gay children have been swayed by societal pressures to experiment and accept heterosexual experiences. that’s why you see stories about gay wives or husbands divorcing their partners (even if they have had children with them) to come out of the closet finally.

It is not the norm, and should be presented and explained to children as a choice and a different decision to be respected as such.

it is evil to teach children lies. being gay is not a choice, and not a decision. it is how you feel - whether you are born or you suddenly feel an urge to talk to that hot same-sex person who just walked into the room. it is a natural urge - most people understand that.

I go one step further and explain and discuss the different reasons that same sex identity occurs.

and why is that?

I am happy that you have found peace and are living the life that you feel comfortable in. However, I do disagree with the assumption that to be gay is your "authentic self".

there has never been a problem, i did not "find" peace, i have always been open to other humans to love since i was born - a persons’ sexual organs have NOTHING to do with if i find them attractive.

but, if you want to make wrong assumptions about reality that’s up to you - to disagree with the truth. go for it - i dont care if you are willfully ignorant about sexuality or sexual identity. no skin off my nose - everyones’ life and urges and natural orientation are natural and are what naturally happen to people, gay, straight or trans - 99% of people don’t decide anything. they just exist as god created them.

The issues and situations are too varied to go into here. But, that it happens is a fact. Sex is a private matter and should reamain that way.

exactly - so you should take your nose and bury it into your own business dear.

There are many, many gay couples that are wonderful, that keep their sex lives private. I have many friends that fit that desription.

marriage is not about sex lives. but if you want to feel that way, go for it. but i disagree that marriage is about sex.

By Amanda C on 05/08/2009 4:21 pm
Kelly In Texas

People are not born gay. Justify your sexual choice if you must, but it really isn’t any of my business who you have sex with. Marriage is between opposite sexes, not all about sex. Civil unions are between the same sex based on a sexual choice, not all about sex.

I explain to my children,how and why some people choose to have same sex relationships, that they are not born gay. There are numerous influences that occur during early childhood and later that may express itself in same sex attractions. Same thing for heterosexuals that are attracted to blondes or tall people…they are not born attracted to blondes. But, they have a right to be attracted to them.

I think that it is sad that some gay people do not accept their decision, but must justify it with an assertion that they were born that way….why not stand up and say, I am, period…I have urges and accept that.

Marriage is between a male and a female.

Civil unions are between same sex couples.

You have your and we have ours.

By Kelly In Texas on 05/08/2009 5:55 pm
Amanda C

people are born they way they are - if they feel a sexual attraction to someone, they are either straight or gay depending on the genitals of the other person. no two ways about it (unless you’re bisexual!)

you are doing your children a disservice by teaching them the wrong information about sexuality. there are many different orientations and your sexuality can be static all your life, or fluid, or it could change dramatically without any notice. our bodies and brains and minds and hearts and souls are way too complicated and diverse and complex to reduce them to a social norm such as heterosexuality.

gay people accept who they are. you are the one who doesn’t accept them for who and what they are. look at the truth kelly.

By Amanda C on 05/09/2009 3:07 pm
Kelly In Texas

You can pretend that I am the only person that agrees that people are not born gay. Pretend all that you like, post to me as if I invented this….but it will not change the fact that many psychiatric experts have the same opinion.

I sure get that you want to believe that homosexuality is the "norm". It is not, but that does not make it any less of a viable lifestyle for many. Have at it! I just think that is a shame that gays just can’t be gay without justification from nature.

Sooooo Lemon Tea…you would be better served to contact all those others that have the same beliefs that I do and scold them…I will not be swayed.

As for my children…they are loving and accepting members of society. They are able to understand many different aspects of humanity and accept that we are different.

 

By Kelly In Texas on 05/09/2009 3:37 pm
Amanda C

and you can pretend that a consensus on a wrong belief makes you right - but lots of people believed the world was flat and it turned out - hey, it’s round.

there are many unbiased psychiatrists who understand sexuality is innate and can be learned - they all agree that homosexuality is a natural variance to human nature. 

no, i dont "want" to believe anything - homosexuality is not the norm, i am completely fine with that fact. most people are straight. but most people also have brown eyes also.

you have to come to terms with the fact that realizing natural variance, such as eye color, sexuality, gender, sex organs, body types and demeanor is not unnatural or bad - it is a natural part of the human condition. we are not all the same. we are all different. we are not all the norm - if we were, we would all have the same color hair, eyes, body shape, and sex. that wouldn’t be fun. and we wouldn’t be as strong as a species.

it is a shame that prejudiced people like you can’t be prejudiced without justification through nature and the courts of law. if you could, perhaps you would be an accepting member of society.

as it is, you push misinformation to validate your bigoted ideas of gay people, and to validate your belief that you should be able to control the rights of others.

By Amanda C on 05/09/2009 3:48 pm
Kelly In Texas

Lemon Tea…I don’t have to come to terms with anything that you merely want for me to. If I am proved wrong, then I will come to terms with it. Until then…all of your ranting and name calling will not make it any different.

People are not born gay. Big deal…why is it that you MUST believe that? How sad… You are what you are, and that is that.

There may come a day when that issue is resolved. Until then, we will have to agree to disagree.

By Kelly In Texas on 05/09/2009 5:00 pm
R.J.B. Reed

People do not choose their sexual orientation.  Whether it is set at birth or not isn’t completely known, but there are a number of gay men and women who knew they were different as young as 5.  In any case, saying that "I was born that way" seems as reasonable a statement as anything else.  If it wasn’t a choice and it was set long before puberty, what difference does it make?

Since marriage is "not all about sex", there is absolutely no reason to restrict it to a man and a woman, is there?  Now, I personally don’t care what the legal union is called as long as it is the same for all couples.  But history has shown us that seperate but equal doesn’t exist.  So, either the legal union is a civil union (and all marriages are grandfathered in) or it is marriage, and same sex couples are allowed to marry.  The current system doesn’t work because civil unions don’t grant the 1,049 federal rights associated with marriage.

By R.J.B. Reed on 05/10/2009 2:57 pm
Kelly In Texas

Well RJB…some people do in fact choose to experiment with their sexual orientation, most do not. Sexual identity is forming during the early years, so a 5 yr old would not know about the influences shaping their initial attractions. Left unfinished, that identity can shape a lifestyle for life.

Fine…I don’t think it really makes a difference either….but to say that they were "born" that way isn’t correct. I agree, they should just "be" gay…no justification neccessary.

Tradional marraige is between a male and a female. Civil partnerships and civil unions are a part of what gays can do to effectively protect property etc.

The current system works quite well according to many Americans.

 

By Kelly In Texas on 05/10/2009 3:47 pm
Nancy Cleveland
With all due respect, Kelly, no…my ‘assumption’ was that I was "straight’ and living what convention expected.  I would hazard a guess (from your comments) that you are a heterosexual.  Do you "assume" that or do you know, without any doubt?  I have many straight friends who keep their sex lives private…and I have more than a few who do not;  the gay community is no different.  How, exactly, do your many gay friends live that has no resemblance to your own life (aside from what happens behind closed bedroom doors) and if it’s what happens behinds those doors which bothers you (and the Joe the Plumbers) most you all may want to consider that what happens behind your straight friends bedroom doors can be as eye-opening, even disturbing…and may need as much vetting.  Me, I’ll live happily as we’ve always done…working, taking care of our animals, our home, paying our taxes, helping our neighbours and in our general community, being committed and faithful, no lying, cheating, stealing, believing in intergrity, ethics, morals (Yes, morals…), being a friend, a volunteer and not desirous one whit of being married.  How is that any different than the manner in which most of society lives their lives? 
By Nancy Cleveland on 05/08/2009 4:47 pm
Kelly In Texas

Wonderful Nancy…glad all is well with you and yours.

I am indeed straight. Yes, I am certain of that, as if that has any bearing here… I have numerous gay friends and sometimes we agree on things and sometimes we don’t. To each their own.

I support civil unions for gays…and traditional marriage for heterosexuals.

By Kelly In Texas on 05/08/2009 6:10 pm